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vball10set
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Apr 5, 2011 1:53pm
Jay Bilas on Twitter
Sorry to say it, but that was the worst Championship Game of my lifetime. No defense is good enough to cause a good offense to be that bad.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 5, 2011 1:55pm
Prescott;733451 wrote:That is intimidation.
Smith was so rattled he missed two wide open layups.
As you often say. How do you know Smith was rattled? Maybe he was just bad.
Laley23
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Apr 5, 2011 1:56pm
DeyDurkie5;733453 wrote:andrew smith was the biggest turd in NCAA Championship Finals history
The anti Bill Walton.
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Prescott
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Apr 5, 2011 1:58pm
I'll rephrase.As you often say. How do you know Smith was rattled? Maybe he was just bad.
IMO, Andrew Smith looked to be so rattled that he missed two wide open layups.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 5, 2011 2:15pm
Prescott;733468 wrote:I'll rephrase.
IMO, Andrew Smith looked to be so rattled that he missed two wide open layups.
I actually happen to agree with you. But I dont think that makes the defense played by UCONN good. It is just a by-product of blocked shots (from previously played defense). Just because you get someone rattled doesnt mean that you played good defense on some missed lay-ups or boneheaded turnovers, or missed jumpshots (and FTs). Butler also didnt box out for shit most of the first half. I think UCONN had to have had double digit offensive rebounds...
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Prescott
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Apr 5, 2011 2:23pm
We can to disagree. I think if blocks lead to intimidation and players looking over their shoulder wondering where the defender is means that the defense was very good.But I dont think that makes the defense played by UCONN good.
gerb131
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Apr 5, 2011 2:48pm
That was a snooze fest for sure. I actually feel asleep near the end of the first half.
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centralbucksfan
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Apr 5, 2011 2:50pm
vball10set;733456 wrote:Jay Bilas on Twitter- "Sorry to say it, but that was the worst Championship Game of my lifetime. No defense is good enough to cause a good offense to be that bad."
Jay Bilas is on the money. UConn defense was good, no question. But they were not THAT good. Butler just shot the ball extremely poorly. They had some decent looks. If you look at all three games, I wonder what the total shooting % was. All three were poor offensive games from a shooting standpoint. Hate to say it, but it was an ugly overall Final Four.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 5, 2011 10:51pm
Prescott;733225 wrote:How about a quote from Brad Stevens.
"They(UCONN) challenged our shots better than any team we've played in the last two years."
I said player or coach...since Stevens is the coach, yes, I think it's stupid to use his quote as a fact.
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Prescott
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Apr 5, 2011 11:26pm
I'll trust a coach who took his team to two straight Final Fours.I think it's stupid to use his quote as a fact.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 5, 2011 11:51pm
Prescott;734084 wrote:I'll trust a coach who took his team to two straight Final Fours.
No one is denying his ability to coach, or his intelligence for that matter...just that, coaches say things to please other coaches. As a coach, it is your duty to praise the other coaches, not trash them or their team. UCONN could have been absolutely horrid at closing out and preventing separation...but Stevens isn't going to say that.
reclegend22
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Apr 6, 2011 12:42am
It is kind of interesting that Butler has now -- arguably -- played in both the greatest and worst NCAA championship games in history. And did so in back-to-back years. Weird.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 6, 2011 12:53am
Best championship game, Duke v Butler?
Ehhhh..you're stretching miiiighty hard on that one, rec.
Ehhhh..you're stretching miiiighty hard on that one, rec.
reclegend22
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Apr 6, 2011 1:00am
I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination at all, but I certainly won't disagree with a person's choice to feel differently. Many basketball minds and personalities stated that very sentiment in the days after that game's conclusion last April and continue to do so to this day. It was an epic game.
There have, however, certainly been other tremendous championship games in the annals of the game. The triple OT Kansas-North Carolina affair in the '50s, the '85 Villanova upset and, of course, the Jimmy V buzzer beater.
There have, however, certainly been other tremendous championship games in the annals of the game. The triple OT Kansas-North Carolina affair in the '50s, the '85 Villanova upset and, of course, the Jimmy V buzzer beater.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 6, 2011 1:04am
reclegend22;734137 wrote:I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination at all, but I certainly won't disagree with a person's choice to feel differently. Many basketball minds and personalities stated that very sentiment in the days after that game's conclusion last April and continue to do so to this day. It was an epic game.
There have, however, certainly been other tremendous championship games in the annals of the game. The triple OT Kansas-North Carolina affair in the '50s, the '85 Villanova upset and, of course, the Jimmy V buzzer beater.
I just have honestly never heard one person say it was the best championship game ever..or even close.
Obviously that doesn't make it not true...just didn't seem right to me, idk.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Apr 6, 2011 1:10am
This is just the opinion of an SI author (which certainly doesn't validate anything), but the first passage from the below article was read by Mike Greenberg on ESPN the morning after the Duke-Butler game. This was actually a fairly shared opinion of the game from what I recollect. Like I said, though, it's certainly debatable. There have been some really great games throughout time.
"The ball is in the air. And because the ball is in the air, anything is possible. Miracle? Heartbreak? Pandemonium? Silence? Yes. Anything. That's the beauty of a magical game like this, and also the pain. The basketball is in the air. If it misses, Duke wins one of the greatest championship games ever. And if it goes in (and it looks like it is going in), Butler wins the greatest game that has ever been played."
http://m.si.com/news/to/to/detail/2510243;jsessionid=D761CEA9B9E738C6E304BF3C83CB56A5.cnnsi2
"The ball is in the air. And because the ball is in the air, anything is possible. Miracle? Heartbreak? Pandemonium? Silence? Yes. Anything. That's the beauty of a magical game like this, and also the pain. The basketball is in the air. If it misses, Duke wins one of the greatest championship games ever. And if it goes in (and it looks like it is going in), Butler wins the greatest game that has ever been played."
http://m.si.com/news/to/to/detail/2510243;jsessionid=D761CEA9B9E738C6E304BF3C83CB56A5.cnnsi2
SportsAndLady
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Apr 6, 2011 1:16am
Rec, check out the thread I just posted about that website..i'm sure you can spend a few hours on that site 
Laley23
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Apr 6, 2011 2:42am
Duke-Butler was good, but it was not the best ever. Not close, imo.
Kansas-Memphis was better.
Houston-NCST
Michigan-UNC
Indiana-Syracuse
Nova-GTown
Just to name a few.
It was good, but not close to the best, imo.
Kansas-Memphis was better.
Houston-NCST
Michigan-UNC
Indiana-Syracuse
Nova-GTown
Just to name a few.
It was good, but not close to the best, imo.
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Prescott
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Apr 6, 2011 10:19am
Duke-Butler was OK, but it was not close to being the best ever. Laley's list is on point and abbreviated.Duke-Butler was good, but it was not the best ever. Not close, imo.