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Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM
I hate to say this, as I am a Jim Tressel supporter, but I think I may have changed my mind after considering the latest allegations against JT. If these are true, then let's face it, OSU will never again be taken seriously nationally, and this will greatly hinder recruiting with this black mark on our record. So, it pains me to even think this, but it's time for Tress to step down.

What say the rest of you? Anyone else change their mind? When I heard the initial allegations, I was quick to support Tress, but this has gotten past the point of salvaging this mess.
Mar 28, 2011 11:28am
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Mar 28, 2011 11:36 AM
I've been too wrapped up in moving into my new house for the past two weeks, so will someone please be kind enough to fill me in on the latest "allegations?"
Mar 28, 2011 11:36am
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Mar 28, 2011 11:39 AM
fantastic--another thread devoted to Coach Tressel and Tattoo-Gate..thanks, Apple- you made my day :rolleyes:
Mar 28, 2011 11:39am
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Mar 28, 2011 12:13 PM
ernest_t_bass;727098 wrote:I've been too wrapped up in moving into my new house for the past two weeks, so will someone please be kind enough to fill me in on the latest "allegations?"

He was photographed leaving Charlie Sheen's house late Saturday night.
Mar 28, 2011 12:13pm
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Mar 28, 2011 12:43 PM
vball10set;727102 wrote:fantastic--another thread devoted to Coach Tressel and Tattoo-Gate..thanks, Apple- you made my day :rolleyes:

My apologies for the new thread, but the focus of this was more for Tressel supporters who think a move is necessary. I have already seen the anti-Tressel smack talk, but this is coming from a Tressel fan who thinks its time for a change, thats all.
Mar 28, 2011 12:43pm
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Mar 28, 2011 12:46 PM
I like Tress and he is a great coach, but he messed up big time. It might help us with the NCAA if he walks off into the sunset, but I doubt that is going to happen
Mar 28, 2011 12:46pm
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Mar 28, 2011 12:48 PM
BigAppleBuckeye;727167 wrote:My apologies for the new thread, but the focus of this was more for Tressel supporters who think a move is necessary. I have already seen the anti-Tressel smack talk, but this is coming from a Tressel fan who thinks its time for a change, thats all.

What are the new allegations?
Mar 28, 2011 12:48pm
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Mar 28, 2011 12:50 PM
OneBuckeye;727171 wrote:What are the new allegations?

I think allegations is the wrong word. Maybe revelations would fit better?
Mar 28, 2011 12:50pm
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Mar 28, 2011 12:54 PM
Has it been determined that the latest revelations are new news to the NCAA and weren't mentioned in the report. Wasn't the case the last I heard. Has this changed?
Mar 28, 2011 12:54pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:00 PM
queencitybuckeye;727180 wrote:Has it been determined that the latest revelations are new news to the NCAA and weren't mentioned in the report. Wasn't the case the last I heard. Has this changed?

If you are refering to forwarding messeges. Gene Smith stopped Tressel when he was asked if he forwarded the email to anyone because it pertained to questions the NCAA asked in their interviews of Tressel. So it should be no news the NCAA unless tressel lied in his interviews. It is most likely not, because this information obtained by the dispatch was probably from a leak at tOSU or the NCAA. Not from a public records request which I think they mentioned they had not been granted yet in the article.
Mar 28, 2011 1:00pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:02 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the new "revelations" are that Tressel forwarded the emails to somebody - a rich guy who served as a "mentor" for Terrelle Pryor.
Mar 28, 2011 1:02pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:07 PM
I'm a huge Tressel supporter. I think he screwed up and he will have some penalty which he deserves. After that I'll be ready to move on.
Mar 28, 2011 1:07pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:07 PM
Agree^^

This is non news, because we already knew he forwarded it just not to who. Doesn't change anything. I will wait and see if more comes out.
Mar 28, 2011 1:07pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:28 PM
jordo212000;727168 wrote:I like Tress and he is a great coach, but he messed up big time. It might help us with the NCAA if he walks off into the sunset, but I doubt that is going to happen
FatHobbit;727200 wrote:I'm a huge Tressel supporter. I think he screwed up and he will have some penalty which he deserves. After that I'll be ready to move on.

agree with both of these
Mar 28, 2011 1:28pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:33 PM
According to 93.7 the fan out of Pittsburgh,Bill Cowher was spotted in Columbus over the weekend.
Mar 28, 2011 1:33pm
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Mar 28, 2011 1:44 PM
There is so much crap speculation and innuendo, everything is jumbled in the mix and it's hard to know what is truth and what is allegation. There's blood in the water and the media is in a feeding frenzy. I expect Tressel to take his punishment from the NCAA like a man and move forward. Unless the punishment is for activity that creates the necessity for serious sanctions against the university, there is no need for him to step down.
Mar 28, 2011 1:44pm
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Mar 28, 2011 4:26 PM
BigAppleBuckeye;727089 wrote:I hate to say this, as I am a Jim Tressel supporter, but I think I may have changed my mind after considering the latest allegations against JT. If these are true, then let's face it, OSU will never again be taken seriously nationally, and this will greatly hinder recruiting with this black mark on our record. So, it pains me to even think this, but it's time for Tress to step down.

What say the rest of you? Anyone else change their mind? When I heard the initial allegations, I was quick to support Tress, but this has gotten past the point of salvaging this mess.

There are no latest allegations.
Mar 28, 2011 4:26pm
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Mar 28, 2011 4:40 PM
I could deal with it a little better if it wasn't so hypocritical. He writes a book called "the winner's manual" where he rambles on about ethics, honesty, etc, etc, and then, when caught covering up a rules violation, says it's because he was "scared" but not scared enough to keep it from his star player's "mentor" who happens to be a really rich old guy.
Mar 28, 2011 4:40pm
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Mar 28, 2011 4:44 PM
tressel leaving doesn't accomplish anything IMO.
Mar 28, 2011 4:44pm
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Mar 28, 2011 4:46 PM
My thoughts will be JT will step down prior to the start of the season. They will go with an interim coach the rest of this year then prior the start of the 2012 season Meyer will be named Head Coach at TOSU. This is just gut feeling I don't want JT to be gone so keep that in mind.
Mar 28, 2011 4:46pm
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Mar 28, 2011 4:51 PM
No. Tressel messed up, but he's still one of the cleanest coaches in the country. Don't let the jealous haters convince you that he's any worse.
Mar 28, 2011 4:51pm
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Mar 28, 2011 6:49 PM
I have to wait to hear "all" of the information before I change my mind. He has to have a chance to speak about the situation concerning protection of players, TOSU management, emails to who?, NCAA investigations, etc.

I love Tress myself, but I love OSU more! If some of these allegations are true his "squeeky clean personna" on the recruiting trail may be tarnished so much that he must step down for the betterment of the program. But I will not throw that stone until it must be thrown.

Go Bucks!
Mar 28, 2011 6:49pm
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Mar 28, 2011 8:54 PM
OneBuckeye;727188 wrote:If you are refering to forwarding messeges. Gene Smith stopped Tressel when he was asked if he forwarded the email to anyone because it pertained to questions the NCAA asked in their interviews of Tressel. So it should be no news the NCAA unless tressel lied in his interviews. It is most likely not, because this information obtained by the dispatch was probably from a leak at tOSU or the NCAA. Not from a public records request which I think they mentioned they had not been granted yet in the article.

Did Gene Smith stop Tressel from answering the question directly before or after he said:

"I probably, or definitely didn't, move forward with this information to anyone simply because in my mind I couldn't think as to who that best would be. With the seriousness of what was discussed in the emails and also the confidentiality component." http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6257370


If it is true it's big. He would have then claimed to not inform anyone at OSU, or the NCAA, but decided that 'best' person to know would be Pryor's rich mentor? Seriously, take the team colored glasses off for at least a second.
Mar 28, 2011 8:54pm
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Mar 28, 2011 9:05 PM
My opinion on him changed. He has def. taken a hit in my book. Now, I don;t think OSU should fire him, but instead suspend him for all of next year.
He messed up and really tarnished the university. He should have to pay for more than 5 games in my view.
OSU is now lumped in with USC, Miami and FSU as dirty programs and that's not right at all.
Mar 28, 2011 9:05pm
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Mar 28, 2011 10:38 PM
ptown_trojans_1;727523 wrote:My opinion on him changed. He has def. taken a hit in my book.

After Obrien I've never trusted anyone to be as squeaky clean as they seemed. I'm a little surprised, but not shocked.
Mar 28, 2011 10:38pm