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cats gone wild
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Mar 25, 2011 7:23am
Ty Webb
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Mar 25, 2011 7:25am
Uh-oh
This isn't good
This isn't good
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Mar 25, 2011 7:42am
don't see the problem.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 25, 2011 7:51am
I don't think its a problem either. Big effing deal. But, I do believe he did say he kept it all to himself?
OneBuckeye
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Mar 25, 2011 8:04am
GoChiefs;723812 wrote:I don't think its a problem either. Big effing deal. But, I do believe he did say he kept it all to himself?
No he said he couldn't comment on if he forwarded the messege because it was part of the NCAA investigation. Says pretty clearly in the article if you actually read it.
During a news conference on March 8 to announce NCAA ethics violations by Tressel, the coach said he kept the information to himself to protect the confidentiality of the federal investigation and for the safety of his players.
But Tressel also nodded his head and said "um-hmm" when asked whether he had forwarded the emails to anyone.
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith quickly intervened to prevent Tressel from answering that question about the matter currently under investigation by the NCAA. The university suspended Tressel for the first five games of the coming football season and fined him $250,000 for failing to report the information to Ohio State officials or the NCAA, but the NCAA could accept or increase the penalties when it issues a final ruling.
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vball10set
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Mar 25, 2011 8:14am
why? please explain..the only thing I see wrong with this is that an idiot like cats gone wild posted itTy Webb;723804 wrote:Uh-oh
This isn't good
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Mar 25, 2011 8:20am
It doesn't matter because the NCAA knows about all of this. This is just reporters getting leaks from the NCAA offices and OSU offices. Nothing new to the NCAA. If you thought he didn't forward the emails to anyone you are the donkey. Move along.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Mar 25, 2011 8:22am
It's a big deal because he continually stated he was scared and didn't know what to do with the emails because it was part of a federal investigation at the time. He was too scared to forward to his bosses, but not to a "mentor" to Pryor? He's digging a deeper hole from his original comments every time more info comes out. Lies on top of lies.
jordo212000
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Mar 25, 2011 8:22am
Well, it could mean that Tress lied again. In the presser he said he did not forward or do anything because of confidentiality. This would obviously contradict that statement.
That will only upset those who believe(d) the confidentiality story. He had the emails for two weeks before Cicero asked for anything of the sort
That will only upset those who believe(d) the confidentiality story. He had the emails for two weeks before Cicero asked for anything of the sort
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elbuckeye28
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Mar 25, 2011 8:28am
I guess this could be consistent with the idea that he was more worried about the Federal Investigation involving drugs and illegal activities.
OneBuckeye
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Mar 25, 2011 8:30am
Hamp89;723826 wrote:It's a big deal because he continually stated he was scared and didn't know what to do with the emails because it was part of a federal investigation at the time. He was too scared to forward to his bosses, but not to a "mentor" to Pryor? He's digging a deeper hole from his original comments every time more info comes out. Lies on top of lies.
Did you even read the article??? He never said anything about not forwarding it to anyone....jordo212000;723827 wrote:Well, it could mean that Tress lied again. In the presser he said he did not forward or do anything because of confidentiality. This would obviously contradict that statement.
That will only upset those who believe(d) the confidentiality story. He had the emails for two weeks before Cicero asked for anything of the sort
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Hamp89
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Mar 25, 2011 8:37am
OneBuckeye;723832 wrote:Did you even read the article??? He never said anything about not forwarding it to anyone....
Being that he used "fear" as the reason for not reporting the emails to his superiors, it looks a little fishy that he sent it to others. The whole probation is based off of him not getting this to the compliance office - it makes it sound even more suspicious that he actually sent it on to another person without contacting the compliance office as well. It's contradicting to his original statement. To be honest, it makes his position sound even worse if you take the stance of "he never said he didn't forward it to anyone".
Terry_Tate
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Mar 25, 2011 8:41am
Hamp89;723834 wrote:Being that he used "fear" as the reason for not reporting the emails to his superiors, it looks a little fishy that he sent it to others. The whole probation is based off of him not getting this to the compliance office - it makes it sound even more suspicious that he actually sent it on to another person without contacting the compliance office as well. It's contradicting to his original statement. To be honest, it makes his position sound even worse if you take the stance of "he never said he didn't forward it to anyone".
I think you could argue that he forwarded them to TP's mentor because he was honestly afraid of what Terrelle was involved in and thought having his mentor know could help get him out of a bad situation. It actually goes in line with Tressel saying he was concerned about his players and feared for their safety and well-being. I'm going to wait until everything comes out before I judge anything, but I don't think this is really that bad.
LJ
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Mar 25, 2011 8:43am
Terry_Tate;723835 wrote:I think you could argue that he forwarded them to TP's mentor because he was honestly afraid of what Terrelle was involved in and thought having his mentor know could help get him out of a bad situation. It actually goes in line with Tressel saying he was concerned about his players and feared for their safety and well-being. I'm going to wait until everything comes out before I judge anything, but I don't think this is really that bad.
Agreed.
jordo212000
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Mar 25, 2011 8:52am
OneBuckeye;723832 wrote:Did you even read the article??? He never said anything about not forwarding it to anyone....
Ok.. so do you think that he told Gene Smith and the Compliance department about all of this stuff? I hope he didn't, because if he did, the NCAA will mop up the floor with Ohio State. (We didn't report any violations to the NCAA towards the end of the year when they did the Compliance Report.)
I guess Tress didn't technically say "I did not forward this email to anybody" but if you read between the lines, that's what he was leading us to believe. He was worried about confidentiality!
Some of you guys see the positive here that he was "afraid for TP" and that is why he told his mentor. I see the opposite here. Why the F is he telling TP's mentor? But not telling Gene Smith?
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Hamp89
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Mar 25, 2011 8:57am
Terry_Tate;723835 wrote:I think you could argue that he forwarded them to TP's mentor because he was honestly afraid of what Terrelle was involved in and thought having his mentor know could help get him out of a bad situation. It actually goes in line with Tressel saying he was concerned about his players and feared for their safety and well-being. I'm going to wait until everything comes out before I judge anything, but I don't think this is really that bad.
I guess that's a positive spin you could put on it, however I doubt that's how it went down. You're right though, there's probably much more to come out from all of this.
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WebFire
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Mar 25, 2011 8:58am
jordo212000;723842 wrote:Ok.. so do you think that he told Gene Smith and the Compliance department about all of this stuff? I hope he didn't, because if he did, the NCAA will mop up the floor with Ohio State. (We didn't report any violations to the NCAA towards the end of the year when they did the Compliance Report.)
I guess Tress didn't technically say "I did not forward this email to anybody" but if you read between the lines, that's what he was leading us to believe. He was worried about confidentiality!
Some of you guys see the positive here that he was "afraid for TP" and that is why he told his mentor. I see the opposite here. Why the F is he telling TP's mentor? But not telling Gene Smith?
At least some can see it without bias.
jordo212000
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Mar 25, 2011 9:02am
WebFire;723846 wrote:At least some can see it without bias.
I'm remain convinced that most of these guys would be defending Tress even if he walked into that press conference and told everybody that he just murdered E. Gordon Gee
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 25, 2011 9:02am
I have no problems with him telling his mentor, but I do have a problem with him not telling Gene Smith.jordo212000;723842 wrote:Ok.. so do you think that he told Gene Smith and the Compliance department about all of this stuff? I hope he didn't, because if he did, the NCAA will mop up the floor with Ohio State. (We didn't report any violations to the NCAA towards the end of the year when they did the Compliance Report.)
I guess Tress didn't technically say "I did not forward this email to anybody" but if you read between the lines, that's what he was leading us to believe. He was worried about confidentiality!
Some of you guys see the positive here that he was "afraid for TP" and that is why he told his mentor. I see the opposite here. Why the F is he telling TP's mentor? But not telling Gene Smith?
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bigkahuna
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Mar 25, 2011 9:03am
WebFire;723846 wrote:At least some can see it without bias.
That's kind of what I was thinking...
Obviously this is a lie because he forwarded them to this "mentor."During a news conference on March 8 to announce NCAA ethics violations by Tressel, the coach said he kept the information to himself to protect the confidentiality of the federal investigation and for the safety of his players.
Now, was he going to state that in the presser? I don't know. Did Gene Smith know that and that's why he stepped in? Again, I don't know.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Mar 25, 2011 9:03am
jordo212000;723842 wrote:Ok.. so do you think that he told Gene Smith and the Compliance department about all of this stuff? I hope he didn't, because if he did, the NCAA will mop up the floor with Ohio State. (We didn't report any violations to the NCAA towards the end of the year when they did the Compliance Report.)
I guess Tress didn't technically say "I did not forward this email to anybody" but if you read between the lines, that's what he was leading us to believe. He was worried about confidentiality!
Some of you guys see the positive here that he was "afraid for TP" and that is why he told his mentor. I see the opposite here. Why the F is he telling TP's mentor? But not telling Gene Smith?
Tressel did say that he was worried about the federal investigation and any NCAA violations. Wouldn't it make sense to contact a parent or mentor if you believe a player has involvement within a federal investigation pertaining to criminal activities? At least it is consistent with his story somewhat.
jordo212000
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Mar 25, 2011 9:08am
elbuckeye28;723854 wrote:Tressel did say that he was worried about the federal investigation and any NCAA violations. Wouldn't it make sense to contact a parent or mentor if you believe a player has involvement within a federal investigation pertaining to criminal activities? At least it is consistent with his story somewhat.
Yeah, I mean him telling the mentor isn't my main problem. Using some deductive reasoning, everybody's actions suggest that the Tress didn't tell Compliance or Gene Smith. That's my main issue here.
I guess I just don't like being lied to again or Ohio State treating me/us like we are 5. There were numerous plot holes with Tressel's story and with each day that passes, another contradiction occurs. Now we go from Tress not telling anybody because he was scared, to now telling a mentor of TP.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Mar 25, 2011 9:11am
Also, I'm not so sure that this mentor guy thing is going to end well. He is a "prominent businessman" that is 67 years old and he befriended TP? Huh? I'm close to TP's age and I can't imagine befriending any dude that is close to 70 years old.
I'm not accusing TP of anything, but if I were an investigative reporter, I might be looking into this guy.
I'm not accusing TP of anything, but if I were an investigative reporter, I might be looking into this guy.
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bigkahuna
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Mar 25, 2011 9:15am
jordo212000;723858 wrote:Also, I'm not so sure that this mentor guy thing is going to end well. He is a "prominent businessman" that is 67 years old and he befriended TP? Huh? I'm close to TP's age and I can't imagine befriending any dude that is close to 70 years old.
I'm not accusing TP of anything, but if I were an investigative reporter, I might be looking into this guy.
Like the wealthy business man that befriended the fab 5? Lol. I'm just kidding.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 25, 2011 9:21am
This really doesn't tell us anything.
However, can we put an end to the conspiracy theories that he forwarded them on to Gene Smith or anyone else, but was forced to keep quiet by the Feds?
It does seem strange that Tressel would contact this "business man" who is Pryor's "mentor" of all people. This will only lead to more unanswered questions.
However, can we put an end to the conspiracy theories that he forwarded them on to Gene Smith or anyone else, but was forced to keep quiet by the Feds?
It does seem strange that Tressel would contact this "business man" who is Pryor's "mentor" of all people. This will only lead to more unanswered questions.