RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Dec 5, 2009 8:32am
D2 was only 4267. Urban school vs. a Cincy school
D3 was 6546. Two private schools
D5 was 7900. Public vs. private.
Those #'s seem low to me.....about 6000 on average.
Curious to see how D1 draws with a Cleveland public school playing.
D3 was 6546. Two private schools
D5 was 7900. Public vs. private.
Those #'s seem low to me.....about 6000 on average.
Curious to see how D1 draws with a Cleveland public school playing.
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Shane Falco
Posts: 440
Dec 5, 2009 8:44am
Yep! looked pretty slim on the tv last night.
Usually go..but couldn't get there this year, but after saving 60 bucks in ticket money plus hotel costs, I really enjoyed kicking back and watching on TV. I may just not go back. I pay for STO, why pay twice?
Usually go..but couldn't get there this year, but after saving 60 bucks in ticket money plus hotel costs, I really enjoyed kicking back and watching on TV. I may just not go back. I pay for STO, why pay twice?
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Dec 5, 2009 8:55am
And the Stark Co. advocates state other cities don't have stadiums big enough to accomodate the games, LOL!. If the games where in Columbus, Coffman (the alternate cite usually mentioned) would have looked empty as well.
Go_Fast_Sports
Posts: 390
Dec 5, 2009 9:08am
Yea, that D2 game was pathetic... lowest crowd ever in my eyes.
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mlisi39
Posts: 78
Dec 5, 2009 9:38am
No one really seemed to care about D2 all year.
I imagine the D4 crowd will be awful as well.
I imagine the D4 crowd will be awful as well.
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Humpty Dumpty
Posts: 60
Dec 5, 2009 9:43am
As long as OHSAA lets STO broadcast the games...the attendence will be down. My guess is STO pays more than OHSAA could ever make at the gate, even with a packed house.
You also have to take in to account what teams play in the games. Some schools travel better than other. Couple that with TV and there you have it folks...sub par attendence. I doubt this really suprises anyone. I know it doesn't suprise me. Darn shame though.
You also have to take in to account what teams play in the games. Some schools travel better than other. Couple that with TV and there you have it folks...sub par attendence. I doubt this really suprises anyone. I know it doesn't suprise me. Darn shame though.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Dec 5, 2009 9:54am
When the games don't fall on Thanksgiving weekend it makes it much harder for many people to get to the games (especially the early Friday games).
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 5, 2009 10:26am
You are correct. Friday, being a work day makes it hard for the casual football fan. Friday games are mainly fans of the schools. saturdays crowds should be a little better. The numbers from Friday are actually embarrassing.
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Preacher
Posts: 218
Dec 5, 2009 10:32am
Now lets move then to the center of the state so all casual fans can attend.
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Jimmie Copas
Posts: 53
Dec 5, 2009 10:32am
I believe the TV broadcasts are the biggest factor.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 11:12am
Does anyone have a link or know the totals from the last couple of year for alll of the final games?
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Dash Riprock
Posts: 13
Dec 5, 2009 11:57am
I typically go to at least 1 final (usually DI) every year, but this year I'm going to watch the Alabama/Florida game, then watch the DI final from home. Would much rather have the games over the Thanksgiving weekend. I live about an hour and 45 minutes from Fawcett.
RoyalNut
Posts: 175
Dec 5, 2009 12:22pm
I have always thought they should use Canton and Massilion and play all the games on Saturday. I think that would help.
Sure am looking forward to the D-6 game.
Sure am looking forward to the D-6 game.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 5, 2009 1:02pm
Put the games in Columbus, and attendance immediately doubles, if not triples. I for one am the casual HS football fan that would go to a game or two if they were more centrally located.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 1:14pm
I wonder if the casual fan is staying away more because of the long drive and the same teams making it so often and those same teams seem to win more times than not.
This is going to be the 2nd year in a row that the private school has won four of the six games. I think this could be a factor in also, with the casual fan.
This is going to be the 2nd year in a row that the private school has won four of the six games. I think this could be a factor in also, with the casual fan.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 1:33pm
Price is another factor I would think.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 5, 2009 1:36pm
I will disagree with that opinion. The casual fan wants to watch good football games. I dont care who is winning, if the games are good. It seemed nobody had a beef when LBJ, and his private school buddies, were winning state titles. They packed the house.newarkcatholicfan wrote: I wonder if the casual fan is staying away more because of the log drive and the same teams making it so often and those same teams seem to win more times than not.
This is going to be the 2nd year in a row that the private school has won four of the six games. I think this could be a factor in also, with the casual fan.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 2:01pm
I said I wonder if these are reasons.
I did not claim that all fans felt like this.
I did not claim that all fans felt like this.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 2:04pm
I am going to link this thread to another site and the same thread from that site to here.
That way we might get more members on both sites and have more talk about this issue.
http://www.southeasternohiopreps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67120&p=1584191#p1584191
That way we might get more members on both sites and have more talk about this issue.
http://www.southeasternohiopreps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67120&p=1584191#p1584191
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Dec 5, 2009 2:16pm
The population center of the state is right in between Columbus and Canton. So, it changes nothing.Preacher wrote: Now lets move then to the center of the state so all casual fans can attend.
Doesn't matter where it is, the teams have to be appealing. No one cares about Maple Hts. or Winton Woods, so the number was abysmal.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Dec 5, 2009 9:20pm
Truth be told, WW and MH area bascially city league teams. They don't have the following of a Steubenville, Massilon, or Elder. I doubt more than a few thousand show up for their regular season games.
However, I do think they need to change the pace at least to keep interest. Bring the games to Columbus for a few years, see how it works out there. If it bombs move them back to Stark Co.
However, I do think they need to change the pace at least to keep interest. Bring the games to Columbus for a few years, see how it works out there. If it bombs move them back to Stark Co.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 9:21pm
After Columbus, if it bombs try Cincy then Cleveland.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 5, 2009 10:24pm
Why Cleveland? It's 40 minutes north of Canton/Massillon. That would be stupid IMO.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 5, 2009 10:59pm
They to deserve a chance to host if the rest of the state is going to get a chance.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 5, 2009 11:13pm
NE Ohio is already hosting. It's in Canton/Massillon..doesn't matter if it's in Cleveland or not. I guess it should go to Dayton, Lima, Akron, Toledo, and Athens too then? I mean..if the rest of the state is hosting.