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Mar 16, 2011 4:57 PM
"To hint that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous."

"In his garbled but sweeping comment that Duke recruits only “black players that were ‘Uncle Toms,’ ” Jalen seems to change the usual meaning of those very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle-class families. He leaves us all guessing exactly what he believes today"

"It is insulting and ignorant to suggest that men like Johnny Dawkins (coach at Stanford), Tommy Amaker (coach at Harvard), Billy King (general manager of the Nets), Tony Lang (coach of the Mitsubishi Diamond Dolphins in Japan), Thomas Hill (small-business owner in Texas), Jeff Capel (former coach at Oklahoma and Virginia Commonwealth), Kenny Blakeney (assistant coach at Harvard), Jay Williams (ESPN analyst), Shane Battier (Memphis Grizzlies) and Chris Duhon (Orlando Magic) ever sold out their race."

Some excerpts....


http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/grant-hills-response-to-jalen-rose/
Mar 16, 2011 4:57pm
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thavoice

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Mar 16, 2011 4:58 PM
'I am proud of my family. I am proud of my Duke championships and all my Duke teammates. And, I am proud I never lost a game against the Fab Five.
Mar 16, 2011 4:58pm
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Mar 16, 2011 5:14 PM
thavoice I loved that quote at the end haha. I think an interesting thing about this was this quote "I should have guessed there was something regrettable in the documentary when I received a Twitter apology from Jalen before its premiere" I kinda agree with Hill's thoughts though.
Mar 16, 2011 5:14pm
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thavoice

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Mar 16, 2011 5:16 PM
Yeah, I wonder what he thought was going to be said.

I loved his reponse. I imagine it was very well thought out and he chose his words very carefully.
Mar 16, 2011 5:16pm
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Mar 16, 2011 5:19 PM
Hill definitely took the high road and just assured what everyone already knew that Jalen Rose is a loudmouth punk.
Mar 16, 2011 5:19pm
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Mar 16, 2011 5:24 PM
Right on Grant Hill!!!
Mar 16, 2011 5:24pm
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Mar 16, 2011 5:27 PM
What Hill fails to realize is that Rose's thoughts were those he had when he was a teenager. He responded as if those are the same thoughts he has today.
Mar 16, 2011 5:27pm
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Mar 16, 2011 6:18 PM
karen lotz;714389 wrote:What Hill fails to realize is that Rose's thoughts were those he had when he was a teenager. He responded as if those are the same thoughts he has today.

this
Mar 16, 2011 6:18pm
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Mar 16, 2011 7:14 PM
karen lotz;714389 wrote:What Hill fails to realize is that Rose's thoughts were those he had when he was a teenager. He responded as if those are the same thoughts he has today.

agree
Mar 16, 2011 7:14pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:07 PM
derek bomar;714413 wrote:this

+1

Every single one of us thought something as teenagers that we don't think now.
Mar 16, 2011 8:07pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:11 PM
karen lotz;714389 wrote:What Hill fails to realize is that Rose's thoughts were those he had when he was a teenager. He responded as if those are the same thoughts he has today.
derek bomar;714413 wrote:this
Pick6;714438 wrote:agree

Same here.

Also, Grant Hill's street cred just increased by approximately 1000 'hood points. That quote that thavoice posted was fucking gangster.....in a passive-aggressive bitchass sorta way.
Mar 16, 2011 8:11pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:29 PM
I would agree with the statement that Rose was 18, however on ESPN Firsttake he reiterites the same message minus calling them uncle toms.
Mar 16, 2011 8:29pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:33 PM
captvern;714498 wrote:I would agree with the statement that Rose was 18, however on ESPN Firsttake he reiterites the same message minus calling them uncle toms.

Is he reiterating his feelings at the time because they were talking about the documentary?
Mar 16, 2011 8:33pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:37 PM
Yeah, he was just saying what he thought at the time, and cleaned up his controversial language for it.
Mar 16, 2011 8:37pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:45 PM
No he said that he still feels that they only recruit certain players. Will look for the youtube link
Mar 16, 2011 8:45pm
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Mar 16, 2011 8:51 PM
captvern;714518 wrote:No he said that he still feels that they only recruit certain players. Will look for the youtube link

oh ok. I mustve seen a different segment. or just not been listening very closely which is more likely.
Mar 16, 2011 8:51pm
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Mar 16, 2011 9:44 PM
If it was truly something Jalen Rose only believed as a teenager he should have said so. He never prefaced it by saying he didn't feel that way anymore and he never stated it at any other point in the documentary.

I like Grant Hill's response.
Mar 16, 2011 9:44pm
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Mar 16, 2011 9:47 PM
Fab4Runner;714606 wrote:If it was truly something Jalen Rose only believed as a teenager he should have said so. He never prefaced it by saying he didn't feel that way anymore and he never stated it at any other point in the documentary.

I like Grant Hill's response.

I think Rose said on his twitter that the entire documentary was intended to be framed in that time period.
Mar 16, 2011 9:47pm
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Mar 16, 2011 9:49 PM
Duke doesnt recruit 1 and dones CC? ORLY

They have one this year, and probably one next year
Mar 16, 2011 9:49pm
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Mar 16, 2011 9:56 PM
I thought the whole documentary was a reflection. It seemed as though everything they said was "looking back"

Same time, he could still think that way. But in the documentary, it sure seemed as though it was "back then" and then we were left guessing what it is today.
Mar 16, 2011 9:56pm
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Mar 16, 2011 10:04 PM
karen lotz;714610 wrote:I think Rose said on his twitter that the entire documentary was intended to be framed in that time period.

Not everyone that watched the documentary has Twitter (including me). He should have said it. He obviously knew it would be controversial and/or cause problems if he had to apologize ahead of time and before people had actually seen it.
Mar 16, 2011 10:04pm
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Mar 16, 2011 10:05 PM
I do agree with that. Was just relaying what he said.
Mar 16, 2011 10:05pm
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Mar 16, 2011 10:36 PM
ccrunner609;714644 wrote:No they dont....if a kid blows up when he gets there then so be it.

by that logic, no one recruits 1 and dones.
Mar 16, 2011 10:36pm
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Mar 16, 2011 11:35 PM
Laley23;714663 wrote:by that logic, no one recruits 1 and dones.

This. They just end up being that.
Mar 16, 2011 11:35pm
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Mar 17, 2011 3:01 AM
Sadly this special proved not only that some of fab-five were whores, they were jealous, racist, haters as well.
Mar 17, 2011 3:01am