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Jul 1, 2011 4:36 PM
KR1245;819809 wrote:Do you know Dynasty outside of the OC? I'm just curious

I'm actually curious of that as well. I think he has implied knowing me.

Rob how do you know me? And do I know you?
Jul 1, 2011 4:36pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:18 PM
thedynasty1998;819671 wrote:
So yes there is a difference from the top of the 2nd to the bottom.

That's not my point..my point is that difference isnt comparable to the 1st round 1 overall and 17 overall
Jul 1, 2011 6:18pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:20 PM
BR1986FB;819452 wrote:This may have been mentioned but Chris Grant said his reasoning for trading Justin Harper was that they felt that they didn't have the roster spot and that they felt they could do better in free agency. Still doesn't explain why they took the other guy with their pick in the 50's.

Basically because he's foreign and they could stash him away for a few years and maybe find lightening in the bottle.

They have 16 guys on the roster, currently, I believe... So some cuts/trades are bound to happen...
Jul 1, 2011 6:20pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:36 PM
Not specifically Cavs related but this is pure awesomness...a kick in the dick to the greedy NBA players and their high maintenance egos. Go to the home website of ANY NBA team. Click on "team" to look at their roster...then, click on a player, ANY player.....a link to the home page of NBA news, NBA history, etc comes up but the teams/NBA aren't recognizing individual players.
Jul 1, 2011 6:36pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:36 PM
thedynasty1998;819816 wrote:I'm actually curious of that as well. I think he has implied knowing me.

Rob how do you know me? And do I know you?

I don't know you but I know who you are. I don't think that you know me.
Jul 1, 2011 6:36pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:36 PM
BR1986FB;819892 wrote:Not specifically Cavs related but this is pure awesomness...a kick in the **** to the greedy NBA players and their high maintenance egos. Go to the home website of ANY NBA team. Click on "team" to look at their roster...then, click on a player, ANY player.....a link to the home page of NBA news, NBA history, etc comes up but the teams/NBA aren't recognizing individual players.

lol wow
Jul 1, 2011 6:36pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:38 PM
KR1245;819809 wrote:Do you know Dynasty outside of the OC? I'm just curious

No, just pointing out how stupid it is to downplay where someone competed at especially if you have never competed at a high level in that sport, that's all.
Jul 1, 2011 6:38pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:39 PM
robj55;819893 wrote:I don't know you but I know who you are. I don't think that you know me.

O_o
Jul 1, 2011 6:39pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:39 PM
robj55;819895 wrote:No, just pointing out how stupid it is to downplay where someone competed at especially if you have never competed at a high level in that sport, that's all.

Hey, I was a pro wrestler for 7 years (trained by Al Snow's Bodyslammers) and Gibby makes fun of me all the time. ;)
Jul 1, 2011 6:39pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:44 PM
BR1986FB;819900 wrote:Hey, I was a pro wrestler for 7 years (trained by Al Snow's Bodyslammers) and Gibby makes fun of me all the time. ;)

lol see the source
Jul 1, 2011 6:44pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:44 PM
hoops23;819899 wrote:O_o

Just saying, I would never disrespect or discredit someone doing something at a moderately high level.
Jul 1, 2011 6:44pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:48 PM
robj55;819909 wrote:Just saying, I would never disrespect or discredit someone doing something at a moderately high level.

LOL. It's D3 basketball. There are D1 high school teams at a higher level than some of those schools.
Jul 1, 2011 6:48pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:50 PM
robj55;819909 wrote:Just saying, I would never disrespect or discredit someone doing something at a moderately high level.

not trying to disrespect dynasty..but d3 isnt a moderately high level.
Jul 1, 2011 6:50pm
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Jul 1, 2011 6:51 PM
hoops23;819915 wrote:LOL. It's D3 basketball. There are D1 high school teams at a higher level than some of those schools.

He played higher than d3, and I know plenty of players who went d3 who were under recruited and were better than a lot of d2 players. There are SOME D1 high school teams than could beat a good d3 team, not very many though.
Jul 1, 2011 6:51pm
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Jul 1, 2011 9:23 PM
BR1986FB;819900 wrote:Hey, I was a pro wrestler for 7 years (trained by Al Snow's Bodyslammers) and Gibby makes fun of me all the time. ;)

Guess you couldnt make it big time huh???
Jul 1, 2011 9:23pm
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Jul 1, 2011 9:27 PM
Ty Webb;819984 wrote:Guess you couldnt make it big time huh???

Got into the business a little too late.
Jul 1, 2011 9:27pm
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Jul 1, 2011 9:30 PM
Look at Dave Batista and Dallas Page.

They started late and look what happened with them.

It could happen.
Jul 1, 2011 9:30pm
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Jul 1, 2011 10:35 PM
BR1986FB;819892 wrote:Not specifically Cavs related but this is pure awesomness...a kick in the dick to the greedy NBA players and their high maintenance egos. Go to the home website of ANY NBA team. Click on "team" to look at their roster...then, click on a player, ANY player.....a link to the home page of NBA news, NBA history, etc comes up but the teams/NBA aren't recognizing individual players.

Seems really immature to me. Especially when directed towards the very people that make your league popular.
Jul 1, 2011 10:35pm
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Jul 2, 2011 12:38 AM
robj55;819920 wrote: and I know plenty of players who went d3 who were under recruited and were better than a lot of d2 players.

No way!! D2!?!? I hope you got.their autographs...
Jul 2, 2011 12:38am
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Jul 2, 2011 1:27 AM
Not specifically Cavs related but this is pure awesomness...a kick in the dick to the greedy NBA players and their high maintenance egos. Go to the home website of ANY NBA team. Click on "team" to look at their roster...then, click on a player, ANY player.....a link to the home page of NBA news, NBA history, etc comes up but the teams/NBA aren't recognizing individual players.


Seems really immature to me. Especially when directed towards the very people that make your league popular.
agreed. Really petty imo. Owners can't say anything, Oden just got $9 mill and he has played 82 games in 4 years. They are just as guilty
Jul 2, 2011 1:27am
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Jul 2, 2011 1:41 AM
Yeah, not a big fan of that move either...

Mainly because it comes off as more childish than anything. At the end of the day, these are the guys (the players) that make your franchise... Also, it's unfair to some of the guys who aren't egotistical maniacs.
Jul 2, 2011 1:41am
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Jul 2, 2011 2:00 PM
hoops23;820116 wrote:Yeah, not a big fan of that move either...

Mainly because it comes off as more childish than anything. At the end of the day, these are the guys (the players) that make your franchise... Also, it's unfair to some of the guys who aren't egotistical maniacs.

WKNR equated it to a 16 year old having a fight with his girlfriend and removing her/him from their relationship status on Facebook (serious business!).
Jul 2, 2011 2:00pm
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Jul 3, 2011 5:09 PM
ABOUT THE CAVS . . .

1. Now there are three. That's right, three Cavs under contract for next season who were with the team when they walked off the court after Game 6 of the 2010 playoffs in Boston: Daniel Gibson, Antawn Jamison and Anderson Varejao. Everyone else is gone, although the Cavs may try to re-sign free agent Anthony Parker for a year to play shooting guard.

2. This is what happens when a team switches from playing for a title to trying to build for the future. It's possible Jamison could be traded before the end of the season. He's in the final year of his contract. It's likely Ramon Sessions will be dealt, but Gibson also could go as the Cavs sort through their four point guards.

3. That's right, they have four point guards: Baron Davis, Kyrie Irving, Sessions and Gibson. Irving is the present and the future. There's a small chance Davis could be traded, but his enormous contract makes it unlikely.

4. As the Cavs try to bring order to the point guard position, the most likely to go is Sessions. He is 25, very quick and would be excellent for an up-tempo team such as the Knicks. The Cavs would probably prefer to keep Gibson, because he is a strong outside shooter who in certain situations can play next to Davis or Irving.

5. If you had to pick a starting lineup for the Cavs right now, it would be Davis and Irving in the backcourt. Yes, it's two point guards, but the only other guards on the roster are Manny Harris, Gibson and Sessions. That's why they will try to keep Parker, or perhaps trade for more of a long-term answer at shooting guard. Of course, nothing can happen in terms of deals during the lockout.

6. Omri Casspi immediately takes over at small forward. They still have Christian Eyenga and Alonzo Gee. The Cavs remain alarmingly weak at the two positions requiring the most athleticism -- small forward and shooting guard.

7. Jamison will open the season at power forward, but it's obvious the Cavs are counting on rookie Tristan Thompson and second-year man Samardo Samuels. A year from now, it's possible Thompson and Samuels will be the power forwards. Luke Harangody is on the roster, but it's hard to imagine a significant role for him.

8. Varejao will start at center, and the Cavs also want to develop Semih Erden. Some teams will want to deal for Varejao, but it's doubtful the Cavs will trade him. They believe Varejao and Thompson can greatly improve their inside defense.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2011/07/draft_neglect_digs_holes_in_cl.html
Jul 3, 2011 5:09pm
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Jul 3, 2011 5:52 PM
Reading through that projected lineup is depressing. There are exactly zero players on the roster that we know could get significant minutes for a championship caliber team. Irving and Thompson are unknown quantities, and could be at that level soon, but we don't know yet. The rest, outside of Varejao who is at least respectable, is just complete trash.

Obviously it's a long process, but as of now we still don't know if they even have ONE legitimate piece.
Jul 3, 2011 5:52pm
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Jul 3, 2011 6:00 PM
2kool4skool;820667 wrote:Reading through that projected lineup is depressing. There are exactly zero players on the roster that we know could get significant minutes for a championship caliber team. Irving and Thompson are unknown quantities, and could be at that level soon, but we don't know yet. The rest, outside of Varejao who is at least respectable, is just complete trash.

Obviously it's a long process, but as of now we still don't know if they even have ONE legitimate piece.

Very fair assessment, but that's why I'm excited to watch them play lol.
Jul 3, 2011 6:00pm