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Mar 15, 2011 11:56 AM
Person A is Catholic. Person B is Protestant. Person B wants to convert to Catholicism but probably won't until after the marriage. Persons A and B get married in a Catholic church. Does the church recognize person B as recieving the sacrament of Marriage after they convert later on since they were married in a Catholic ceremony even though they were not Catholic at the time?
Mar 15, 2011 11:56am
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Mar 15, 2011 12:01 PM
Once person B is fully converted there is a ritual whereby the marriage becomes officially recognized b the Catholic Church. So I suppose at that person B recieves the Sacrament of Marriage
Mar 15, 2011 12:01pm
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Mar 15, 2011 12:05 PM
So on Easter Vigil when Person B gets Confirmed and First Communion, there's also a ritual for the Marriage too?
Mar 15, 2011 12:05pm
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Mar 15, 2011 12:08 PM
This sounds remarkably complicated. Certainly, I'm interested in hearing the official Church position on this, but hell, the explanation itself sounded exhausting.
Mar 15, 2011 12:08pm
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Mar 15, 2011 12:09 PM
The one I witnessed didn't take part at the Easter Vigil. It was the following Saturday, and it wasn't held during a Mass. Just the couple, their children, and a few friends were there. It was a pretty simple service, took less than five minutes.

I have only seen it once, and I don't know if the way it was done then is standard or just the way the couple and/ or priest decided to do it.
Mar 15, 2011 12:09pm
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Mar 15, 2011 12:41 PM
Ugh... I want to pull a sleeper and just slam organized religion as a result of this thread... ;)
Mar 15, 2011 12:41pm
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Mar 15, 2011 12:46 PM
Fly4Fun;712975 wrote:Ugh... I want to pull a sleeper and just slam organized religion as a result of this thread... ;)
I was actually surprised to see that he wasn't the 1th reply on this thread. ;)
Mar 15, 2011 12:46pm
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Mar 15, 2011 1:33 PM
If I were Person B I would have Person A ask their priest. They would probably be able to explain it far better than anyone on here could.


Here's an article from the Catholic Encyclopedia on the Sacrament of Marriage. Interestingly enough, the spouses are the ministers of the sacrament, not the priest, and the vows and marriage itself are the sacrament, not the service, so technically a priest and formal ceremony aren't even necessary.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09707a.htm
Mar 15, 2011 1:33pm
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Mar 15, 2011 1:35 PM
Sounds like person A and person B need to get a life.
Mar 15, 2011 1:35pm
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Mar 15, 2011 1:41 PM
sleeper;713004 wrote:Sounds like person A and person B need to get a life.

THERE he is!
Mar 15, 2011 1:41pm
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Mar 15, 2011 1:50 PM
Fly4Fun;712975 wrote:Ugh... I want to pull a sleeper and just slam organized religion as a result of this thread... ;)

i lol'd
THERE he is!
+1
Mar 15, 2011 1:50pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:11 PM
Zwick are you going to tie the knot?
Mar 15, 2011 2:11pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:15 PM
Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?
Mar 15, 2011 2:15pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:19 PM
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?

And contribute to the collections for 6 months to see if you are worth adding to the parish.
Mar 15, 2011 2:19pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:19 PM
There are so many things I dislike about the Catholic church, but one of the biggest annoyances I have is the 1 hour long full mass marriage ceremony. Honestly, that would be a marriage dealbreaker for me.
Mar 15, 2011 2:19pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:21 PM
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?

no
Mar 15, 2011 2:21pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:21 PM
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?

That varies by church. When my sister-in-law got married, her husband had to convert. When my wife and I got married, the priest said only one of us needed to be baptized Catholic.
Mar 15, 2011 2:21pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:24 PM
LJ;713051 wrote:There are so many things I dislike about the Catholic church, but one of the biggest annoyances I have is the 1 hour long full mass marriage ceremony. Honestly, that would be a marriage dealbreaker for me.

Mass takes an hour; what do you expect?
Mar 15, 2011 2:24pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:24 PM
sherm03;713056 wrote:That varies by church. When my sister-in-law got married, her husband had to convert. When my wife and I got married, the priest said only one of us needed to be baptized Catholic.



You don't have to convert, the Catholic just has to seek Dispensation.
Mar 15, 2011 2:24pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:31 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;713058 wrote:Mass takes an hour; what do you expect?

A nice 15 minute marriage ceremony like we are getting at the Methodist church we are members of
Mar 15, 2011 2:31pm
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Mar 15, 2011 2:34 PM
LJ;713069 wrote:A nice 15 minute marriage ceremony like we are getting at the Methodist church we are members of

Priest: "You want her?"
Groom: "You better believe it!"
Priest: "You got 'er. I now pronounce you man and wife. You may kiss the bride."
Mar 15, 2011 2:34pm
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Mar 15, 2011 3:09 PM
So, are you settling down?
Mar 15, 2011 3:09pm
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Mar 15, 2011 3:18 PM
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?

You have to do the classes regardless, even if both are catholic. If only 1 is, often you won't be allowed to have a full catholic mass.
Mar 15, 2011 3:18pm
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Mar 15, 2011 3:42 PM
I believe that the couple can choose to do their mass privately apart from the formal wedding service. I've not been to a Catholic wedding in ages, but I believe some Catholic friends of mine who got married a few years ago chose to do the mass privately before the actual ceremony to keep things short.

I'm a Baptist minister and when I do weddings they take 15-20 minutes provided no additional music, videos, readings, etc. have been added.
Mar 15, 2011 3:42pm
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Mar 15, 2011 3:44 PM
Just get married on a beach somewhere, better yet don't get married!
Mar 15, 2011 3:44pm