LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 3:53pm
centralbucksfan;709280 wrote:I sure did. And guess what? OSU won the game going away.
It was a 5 point game with 2:20 left
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 12, 2011 3:54pm
LJ;709278 wrote:Once again, did YOU not watch MSU play OSU this year? MSU DOMINATED OSU in the paint. They had 10 more rebounds and held Sully to 11 points and 2 rebounds. They also had 33 points from their post players compared to OSU's 17
Please, know the facts before you post.
And the only reason those stats above happened, was because Sully got in foul trouble early. He only played 27 min that game.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 3:55pm
centralbucksfan;709286 wrote:And the only reason those stats above happened, was because Sully got in foul trouble early. He only played 27 min that game.
uh huh, those 4 minutes less than his average caused a 10 rebound and 16 point disparity?
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Mar 12, 2011 3:56pm
Green, Roe, and Nix are all capable post players, and when Michigan State plays well they do most of their work in the paint. They also guard the rim inside. Sullinger is showing right now why I wouldn't take him with the top pick of the NBA draft. He isn't athletic enough to get good shots off against tough interior defense at postseason intensity, which is what he would see if they play the Spartans. If MSU gets by Penn State they could very well beat Ohio State tomorrow.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Mar 12, 2011 4:05pm
Points in the paint....LJ;709278 wrote:Once again, did YOU not watch MSU play OSU this year? MSU DOMINATED OSU in the paint. They had 10 more rebounds and held Sully to 11 points and 2 rebounds. They also had 33 points from their post players compared to OSU's 17
Please, know the facts before you post.
Green 1-1, 2 points
Nix 2-2, 4 points
Sherman 3-3, 6 points
Payne 3-4, 6 points
Green had a couple 3's and they went combined 5-6 from the line.
Lauderdale 1-1, 2 points
Sullinger 2-3, 4 points
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/shotchart/NCAAB_20110215_MIST@OHST
Probably not the best shot chart but only one I could find.
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Mike Plant
Posts: 49
Mar 12, 2011 4:07pm
Belein is finally getting UM straightened out. If their big man keeps improving (No. 52, whose name escapes me) and TH Jr. doesn't think he;s ready for the pros yet - and a few more athletic types - I see em near the top of the little 11 next season.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:08pm
sportswizuhrd;709297 wrote:Points in the paint....
Green 1-1, 2 points
Nix 2-2, 4 points
Sherman 3-3, 6 points
Payne 3-4, 6 points
Green had a couple 3's and they went combined 5-6 from the line.
Lauderdale 1-1, 2 points
Sullinger 2-3, 4 points
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/shotchart/NCAAB_20110215_MIST@OHST
Probably not the best shot chart but only one I could find.
Thanks, that proves even more of a disparity than just posting the post players points. MSU had 1.5x more rebounds and 3x more points in the paint that game.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:08pm
Mike Plant;709299 wrote:Belein is finally getting UM straightened out. If their big man keeps improving (No. 52, whose name escapes me) and TH Jr. doesn't think he;s ready for the pros yet - and a few more athletic types - I see em near the top of the little 11 next season.
Don't you mean the "little 12"?
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Mike Plant
Posts: 49
Mar 12, 2011 4:11pm
Big one
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Mike Plant
Posts: 49
Mar 12, 2011 4:12pm
Seriously, if Buford stays, with the incoming class ...
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 12, 2011 4:34pm
LJ;709277 wrote:Once again, did you not watch MSU play OSU this year? MSU DOMINATED OSU in the paint. They had 10 more rebounds and held Sully to 11 points and 2 rebounds. They also had 33 points from their post players compared to OSU's 17
Please, know the facts before you post.
So you're basing your opinion on their ability to 'outskill' OSU in the post on 1 game? That's asinine. I'm not even arguing that OSU has a good post game, because outside of Sully they have pretty much nothing. I'm saying that lack of an offensive post presence is definitely one of, if not the weakest, points of the MSU team.
Are you a Michigan State fan? Because that is the only way I could possibly see anybody trying to classify Derrick Nix as a capable post player.Cleveland Buck;709289 wrote:Green, Roe, and Nix are all capable post players
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 12, 2011 4:36pm
LJ--you been hittin' the Jim Beam a little early today? wtf's up, bro??
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:37pm
Mulva;709313 wrote:So you're basing your opinion on their ability to 'outskill' OSU in the post on 1 game? That's asinine. I'm not even arguing that OSU has a good post game, because outside of Sully they have pretty much nothing. I'm saying that lack of an offensive post presence is definitely one of, if not the weakest, points of the MSU team.
Are you a Michigan State fan? Because that is the only way I could possibly see anybody trying to classify Derrick Nix as a capable post player.
Yes, I am basing it on 1 game, because they did it in one game against OSU. They only game between the 2. They did it once, they can do it again. The stats do not lie.
LJ
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Mar 12, 2011 4:37pm
vball10set;709314 wrote:LJ--you been hittin' the Jim Beam a little early today? wtf's up, bro??
reality
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:38pm
Fact- MSU dominated OSU in the paint this year
blind homers- LOL MSU can't dominate OSU in the paint! LOL
:rolleyes:
blind homers- LOL MSU can't dominate OSU in the paint! LOL
:rolleyes:
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 12, 2011 4:40pm
LJ;709315 wrote:Yes, I am basing it on 1 game, because they did it in one game against OSU. They only game between the 2. They did it once, they can do it again. The stats do not lie.
Speaking of stats not lying, OSU won that game by 10 points with Sully having one of his least effective games of the season. If you are going to base your entire opinion on that game, then there is no reason you should be worried about having to 'bang with them' again anyway, because it was a double digit W.
Awful logic.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 12, 2011 4:40pm
LJ;709316 wrote:reality
you're usually a knowledgeable and consistent poster, but to say that OSU should be worried more about MSU's post game than they have with anyone else's? you're talkin' jibberish, my friend
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Mar 12, 2011 4:40pm
Assuming MSU wins as they should, tomorrow will be a war. Sparty is playing more like everyone expected them too -- which means it will be a tough game. MSU can bring bigger guys in waves to nullify Sullinger. To win, OSU will have to be "on" from the outside, something they haven't really shown yet in this tournament. Today was close, but not how OSU has typically been shooting.
Also, OSU will have to make their damn free throws.
Also, OSU will have to make their damn free throws.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:42pm
Mulva;709319 wrote:Speaking of stats not lying, OSU won that game by 10 points with Sully having one of his least effective games of the season. If you are going to base your entire opinion on that game, then there is no reason you should be worried about having to 'bang with them' again anyway, because it was a double digit W.
Awful logic.
OSU has not been shooting very well lately. And that was a 5 point game with 2:20 left.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:42pm
vball10set;709320 wrote:you're usually a knowledgeable and consistent poster, but to say that OSU should be worried more about MSU's post game than they have with anyone else's? you're talkin' jibberish, my friend
MSU dominated OSU in the paint. Why shouldn't they be worried about it. I mean MSU absolutely made OSU look like they had NOTHING in the paint.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:43pm
MSU 29 rebounds
OSU 19
MSU 18 points in the paint
OSU 6
Tell me why they shouldn't worry?
OSU 19
MSU 18 points in the paint
OSU 6
Tell me why they shouldn't worry?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 12, 2011 4:44pm
LJ;709323 wrote:OSU has not been shooting very well lately. And that was a 5 point game with 2:20 left.
Didn't they just go 14-15 from 3's recently?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 12, 2011 4:45pm
--------- My point
--------- Your grasp
--------- Your grasp
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 12, 2011 4:45pm
SportsAndLady;709327 wrote:Didn't they just go 14-15 from 3's recently?
yeah, 3 and 4 games ago. Didn't know 2 games over a week ago were "lately" when OSU just played 2 games.
hangonsloopy
Posts: 1,291
Mar 12, 2011 4:46pm
LJ;709326 wrote:MSU 29 rebounds
OSU 19
MSU 18 points in the paint
OSU 6
Tell me why they shouldn't worry?
Because they still won by 10....