tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 6, 2011 2:34am
I didn't want to put this in the other NASA thread because I wanted everyone to be able to see this. This is just another excellent reason to keep NASA around, or better yet increase their funding.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/nasascientistfindsevidenceofalienlife
http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html
A link to the Journal and his findings for anyone who's curious.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/nasascientistfindsevidenceofalienlife
Evidence of alien microbes found inside meteorites. Granted, these are just microorganisms but the implications of this are staggering.That astonishingly awesome claim comes from Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, who says he has found conclusive evidence of alien life — fossils of bacteria found in an extremely rare class of meteorite called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites. (There are only nine such meteorites on planet Earth.) Hoover’s findings were published late Friday night in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed scientific journal.
http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html
A link to the Journal and his findings for anyone who's curious.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 6:49am
The obsession to find alien microbes is hardly justification to keep spending money we don't have.
You say the implications are staggering. Why should that knowledge be "staggering"? What do we stand to gain from it besides confirmation that it exists? Does it improve our quality of life? Will it help feed the hungry? Will it pay off our national debt?
Seriously...I don't understand why we must spend millions of dollars finding "alien bacteria".
You say the implications are staggering. Why should that knowledge be "staggering"? What do we stand to gain from it besides confirmation that it exists? Does it improve our quality of life? Will it help feed the hungry? Will it pay off our national debt?
Seriously...I don't understand why we must spend millions of dollars finding "alien bacteria".
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mrtinkertrain
Posts: 76
Mar 6, 2011 8:46am
The implication's are mind boggling you simpleton! If true it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are not alone! This would easily be one of the top scientific discoveries in the history of mankind and all your concerned about is the friggin budget deficit?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 6, 2011 8:57am
Staggering! A microbe I tell ya! It will change our lives!
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Mar 6, 2011 9:35am
believer;700763 wrote:The obsession to find alien microbes is hardly justification to keep spending money we don't have.
You say the implications are staggering. Why should that knowledge be "staggering"? What do we stand to gain from it besides confirmation that it exists? Does it improve our quality of life? Will it help feed the hungry? Will it pay off our national debt?
Seriously...I don't understand why we must spend millions of dollars finding "alien bacteria".
Hi, this is not the politics forum. Fuck off
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Budget#Public_Perception
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 6, 2011 9:51am
I have no problem with NASA funding, as it keeps us on top technologically. Expanding the frontiers has always driven man and the development of our species.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Mar 6, 2011 9:52am
NASA is a waste.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 11:13am
riiiiightmrtinkertrain;700773 wrote:The implication's are mind boggling you simpleton! If true it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are not alone! This would easily be one of the top scientific discoveries in the history of mankind and all your concerned about is the friggin budget deficit?
mostlythedynasty1998;700796 wrote:NASA is a waste.
I agree. This topic should be moved to the political forum.Mohican00;700789 wrote:Hi, this is not the politics forum. Fuck off]
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Mar 6, 2011 11:31am
tk421;700748 wrote:I didn't want to put this in the other NASA thread because I wanted everyone to be able to see this. This is just another excellent reason to keep NASA around, or better yet increase their funding.
With this sentence, the OP opened the topic up to politics.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Mar 6, 2011 11:49am
they sure did release this at a convenient time.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 12:50pm
NAW...pure coincidence. There are no political motives behind anything that NASA does. It's just pure, innocent research I'm sure.dave;700863 wrote:they sure did release this at a convenient time.
password
Posts: 2,360
Mar 6, 2011 1:37pm
Are they friendly?
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Mar 6, 2011 1:52pm
It looks like a penis shaped turd to me.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 2:23pm
Like a Klingon or something, eh? I'm thinking it looks more like crystalline sperm. I'm sure it'll have profound consequences on the future of mankind. Money well spent.Nate;700946 wrote:It looks like a penis shaped turd to me.
Live long and prosper.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Mar 6, 2011 2:28pm
I think we're jumping the gun a bit here. A scientist has made a discovery, and he has made theories based on his finds. It says they will be up for scrutiny in the scientific community in the coming days.
I think that we should probably wait until we jump the gun and assert anything just yet. Moreover, while I agree that NASA should continue to receive funding, I'm sometimes skeptical about applying earth-based principles (for this example, regarding the notion that these bacteria are, and have always been, indigenous to somewhere else) to something that has been affected by things not "earthly."
If, however, what he claims is true, this is quite a find indeed!
I think that we should probably wait until we jump the gun and assert anything just yet. Moreover, while I agree that NASA should continue to receive funding, I'm sometimes skeptical about applying earth-based principles (for this example, regarding the notion that these bacteria are, and have always been, indigenous to somewhere else) to something that has been affected by things not "earthly."
If, however, what he claims is true, this is quite a find indeed!
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 2:30pm
I agree.......O-Trap;700996 wrote:If, however, what he claims is true, this is quite a find indeed!
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 6, 2011 2:34pm
We continue to find newer forms of life not based solely on sunlight (fumaroles in deep oceans) on our own planet that suggest other forms of life are possible. Why should we stop looking outside our own confines again?
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 2:37pm
Not opposed to exploration or research...just not at taxpayer expense when we're TRILLIONS of dollars in debt. Let the Chi-coms go hunting for extra-terrestrial mushrooms. It might go great with our General Tso's chicken.ytownfootball;701003 wrote:We continue to find newer forms of life not based solely on sunlight (fumaroles in deep oceans) on our own planet that suggest other forms of life are possible. Why should we stop looking outside our own confines again?
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 6, 2011 2:40pm
Living so near State College has not done you well believer, not at all. Like I said there are much less worthy endeavors that should hit the chopping block before NASA, I really don't see it as debatable.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 2:46pm
I'm certainly not defending wasteful taxpayer funded research projects...and there are indeed plenty of them here in Happy Valley. It doesn't mean NASA's budget shouldn't be heavily scrutinized.ytownfootball;701010 wrote:Living so near State College has not done you well believer, not at all. Like I said there are much less worthy endeavors that should hit the chopping block before NASA, I really don't see it as debatable.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 6, 2011 2:49pm
believer;701019 wrote:I'm certainly not defending wasteful taxpayer funded research projects...and there are indeed plenty of them here in Happy Valley. It doesn't mean NASA's budget shouldn't be heavily scrutinized.
There's a difference between scrutinizing and just off-handily discounting discovery as worthless and a waste.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 2:57pm
Well-timed discovery I might add. Never waste a good crisis.ytownfootball;701021 wrote:There's a difference between scrutinizing and just off-handily discounting discovery as worthless and a waste.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 6, 2011 3:00pm
They have to lobby for funding just like every other program, not sure why this is such a surprise. I would argue that they shouldn't need to lobby for their funding, but I put a higher value on discovery than a lot of other programs that are funded more heavily.believer;701022 wrote:Well-time discovery I might add. Never waste a good crisis.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Mar 6, 2011 3:04pm
I can agree on that.....once we get our trillion dollar debt problem resolved of course.ytownfootball;701024 wrote:They have to lobby for funding just like every other program, not sure why this is such a surprise. I would argue that they shouldn't need to lobby for their funding, but I put a higher value on discovery than a lot of other programs that are funded more heavily.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 6, 2011 3:55pm
NASA doesn't even amount to 1% of the budget. What do you hope to gain by cutting their already lean budget? Besides severely curtailing U.S. research and development.