Archive School Sorry For Making Black Student 'Slave'

bigdaddy2003

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Mar 4, 2011 4:13pm

This is a non story but I imagine Reverend Al will be there before no time.

Pick6

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Mar 4, 2011 4:14pm

bigdaddy2003;699679 wrote:This is a non story but I imagine Reverend Al will be there before no time.

he was in akron for something last weekend, didnt pay much attention to it though

september63

Posts: 5,789

Mar 4, 2011 4:18pm

Fab4Runner;699678 wrote:In sixth grade we had a lesson very similar to the one in this story but it was about the Holocaust and Jews. Four students were chosen at random (I was one of them) and we wore yellow dots on our clothes the enitre week at school. We had to sit at a seperate lunch table, could not go to the gym after lunch to participate in the activities, had to sit by ourselves in all of our classes and other similar things. It was actually a really good learning experience and a great lesson. While it was primarily about the Holocaust, we also got the perspective of regular students in our class that were teased, bullied and/or outcasts.

In this time of lawsuits a teacher couldnt get away with this in the classroom.

Fab4Runner

Posts: 6,196

Mar 4, 2011 4:20pm

september63;699681 wrote:In this time of lawsuits a teacher couldnt get away with this in the classroom.

Probably not. Well maybe in my school system....to this day you don't hear about whiny parents complaining to teachers, etc. Kids don't talk back, there are rarely fights. I feel lucky that I went to school where I did when I heard some of the stories from larger districts.

Either way I think it was a worthwhile lesson and am glad I participated.

ytownfootball

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Mar 4, 2011 4:22pm

Fab4Runner;699678 wrote:In sixth grade we had a lesson very similar to the one in this story but it was about the Holocaust and Jews. Four students were chosen at random (I was one of them) and we wore yellow dots on our clothes the enitre week at school. We had to sit at a seperate lunch table, could not go to the gym after lunch to participate in the activities, had to sit by ourselves in all of our classes and other similar things. It was actually a really good learning experience and a great lesson. While it was primarily about the Holocaust, we also got the perspective of regular students in our class that were teased, bullied and/or outcasts.

I'm sure it was thought provoking, that's the intent. My concern is that too much, waaaaay too much time is spent in school on social conformation and other politically correct exercises. How many of these "exercises" are practiced by our global competitors in education? I hate wussification on all fronts, but it particularly grinds my gears when it's forced upon our youth under the guise of "education".

Bigred1995

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Mar 4, 2011 4:40pm

password;699617 wrote:Never said all black people.You should read it again and see where I said some.Let me guess and say that you must have had some great,great,great uncle that had a great ,great grandmother that knew a guy who had a 3rd cousin that married a guy that knew a guy that had been told that he had a great aunt that dated a guy who knew a slave from Tupelo who worked in a bakery.

It wasn't a bakery, but custard shop! Nice try though!

Buckeyechick

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Mar 4, 2011 5:19pm

ytownfootball;699565 wrote:The whole exercise is just plain stupid...look how much time was wasted on it in some cases, but we hear complaints of how badly we suck ass globally in math and science. Should we also have a Hitler/Jew lesson too? Ride a train and walk to the chamber?

It's bullshit.

I joke with you not my daughter's 5th grade teacher had a "sleep over" party one weekend at another student's house where they hid in a dark room and pretended to give the kids an "Anne Frank" experience. They ate German food that night, watched the movie Anne Frank and then pretended what it would be like to have been her. My daughter did not end up going because I was uncomfortable with the amount of supervision and anyway her teacher, well he kind of wigs me out.

Buckeyechick

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Mar 4, 2011 5:22pm

Fab4Runner;699683 wrote:Probably not. Well maybe in my school system....to this day you don't hear about whiny parents complaining to teachers, etc. Kids don't talk back, there are rarely fights. I feel lucky that I went to school where I did when I heard some of the stories from larger districts.

Either way I think it was a worthwhile lesson and am glad I participated.

I have no problem with lessons like that being done in school. My little one's teacher wanted to do it on a Sat. night, all night at another students house. That just bothered me.

september63

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Mar 4, 2011 5:31pm

Buckeyechick;699728 wrote:I joke with you not my daughter's 5th grade teacher had a "sleep over" party one weekend at another student's house where they hid in a dark room and pretended to give the kids an "Anne Frank" experience. They ate German food that night, watched the movie Anne Frank and then pretended what it would be like to have been her. My daughter did not end up going because I was uncomfortable with the amount of supervision and anyway her teacher, well he kind of wigs me out.

The teacher is a he? Having a sleep over with his 5th grade students? Ummmm, NO!!

Buckeyechick

Posts: 97

Mar 4, 2011 5:43pm

I know. I was shocked that some parents let their kids go.

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mella

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Mar 4, 2011 5:51pm

4cards;699604 wrote:...sounds like a dumb exercise by the teacher to begin with.

Maybe next week she can separate the boys and girls into "pimps and whores" .

4 cards, That is so stupid. Really, everyone knows that next week all the kids are divided into Chinese and Irish and told to build a railroad from one end of the play ground to the other. Pimps and Whores is the first week of April.

Mohican00

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Mar 4, 2011 6:16pm

password;699496 wrote:"They looked in their mouth to see who had stronger teeth. And whoever was the strongest that's who they sold first."

#1 SLAVE

-Society-

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Mar 4, 2011 9:34pm

mella;699757 wrote:4 cards, That is so stupid. Really, everyone knows that next week all the kids are divided into Chinese and Irish and told to to build a railroad from one end of the play graound to the other. Pimps and Whores is the month of February.

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nd11

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Mar 4, 2011 9:41pm

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Mar 5, 2011 12:07am

Fab4Runner;699678 wrote:In sixth grade we had a lesson very similar to the one in this story but it was about the Holocaust and Jews. Four students were chosen at random (I was one of them) and we wore yellow dots on our clothes the enitre week at school. We had to sit at a seperate lunch table, could not go to the gym after lunch to participate in the activities, had to sit by ourselves in all of our classes and other similar things. It was actually a really good learning experience and a great lesson. While it was primarily about the Holocaust, we also got the perspective of regular students in our class that were teased, bullied and/or outcasts.

We did the same thing, though only for a day. If the kids without a dot talked to the others you got in trouble also lol.

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bigkahuna

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Mar 5, 2011 1:23am

http://classracegender.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/brown-eyes-vs-blue-eyes-discrimination-in-a-third-grade-classroom/

Anyone ever hear of the Brown Eyed vs. Blue Eyed experiment done by Jane Elliot back in the 70s?

She essentially too her 3rd graders and did what Fab discussed. She now travels and does seminars about discrimination to children and adults alike. She got a lot of flack for it back then but is considered very innovative in the education community today.

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WebFire

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Mar 5, 2011 9:59am

gut;699651 wrote:There's a lot wrong with this exercise, one black kid being a slave and one being an owner is not part of what's wrong, though. To me the most flooring thing is a teacher advocating and allowing 5th graders to "squeeze muscles". That's a disaster waiting to happen as soon as one student touches another inappropriately.

Like most other professions, there are some incredibly stupid people that teach.

Damn we live in a weak and soft society.

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bigkahuna

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Mar 5, 2011 10:03am

If it makes anyone feel better, I'm 1/2 black and don't have a problem with this exercise.

password

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Mar 5, 2011 2:11pm

Next will be a lawsuit by the NAACP because when they made the movie "ROOTS" they made the black people play the part of the slaves.

dwccrew

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Mar 5, 2011 6:23pm

password;699496 wrote:Here is a quote from the Columbus Dispatch as told by the child and his mother.

"At first, I didn't care," he said. "But after people were bidding on people, it kind of made me a little mad and stuff."

He said he became even angrier when students playing prospective buyers were told to feel the muscles of the students playing slaves.

"They took the bigger ones first," Burton said, recounting what her son told her.

"They looked in their mouth to see who had stronger teeth. And whoever was the strongest that's who they sold first."

sounds like the point of the lesson was made and the students learned it well.