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Mar 1, 2011 10:14 PM
According to several reports, Presidential wannabee Mike Huckabee claims that President Obama's growing up in Kenya helped form his opinion of the British. Unfortunately for Huckabee, this is not true at all. The President grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia. Huckabee's "people" claim he misspoke, but in my opinion it is exactly what those of his ilk attempt to do. They float a lie and then issue a statement claiming either misspeaking or some other excuse. I feel that either Huckabee knew exactly what he was doing or he is as dumb as a box of rocks. Any takers on this?

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/03/01/2886837/huckabee-wrongly-says-obama-grew.html#
Mar 1, 2011 10:14pm
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Mar 2, 2011 11:35 AM
Happens all of the time on both sides.
Mar 2, 2011 11:35am
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Mar 2, 2011 12:00 PM
And if the media spent all its time finding these kinds of "misspeaks" from BOTH sides of the aisle, it's ALL we'd hear about. Funny how all the "misspeaks" by Obama and Biden NEVER get reported in this same manner, isn't it?
Mar 2, 2011 12:00pm
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Mar 2, 2011 12:05 PM
Apparently his wife believes he is from Kenya too! Maybe she told Mr Huckabee. :shrugs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs
Mar 2, 2011 12:05pm
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Mar 2, 2011 12:11 PM
Writerbuckeye;697228 wrote:And if the media spent all its time finding these kinds of "misspeaks" from BOTH sides of the aisle, it's ALL we'd hear about. Funny how all the "misspeaks" by Obama and Biden NEVER get reported in this same manner, isn't it?

I could believe that he "misspoke" if it were just a passing reference, but it sets the tone of his entire claim that Obama's view of the British was tainted by his upbringing in Kenya and their role in the Mau Mau revolt. I find it simply amazing that Huckabee goes in such detail about something (Obama's upbringing) that clearly never happened.
Mar 2, 2011 12:11pm
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Mar 2, 2011 3:53 PM
tsst_fballfan;697237 wrote:Apparently his wife believes he is from Kenya too! Maybe she told Mr Huckabee. :shrugs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs
Yeah, I'm curious to know a few things, Louie.

Did you think Michelle Obama was flaming the President when she "misspoke" about his home country being Kenya?
Or perhaps Obama was flaming himself when he "misspoke" about his muslim faith?

Just curious because I don't seem to recall you starting threads about those and other misquotes, although I could be wrong and not remembering correctly. If I am not recalling rightly, please inform me because I don't want to falsely believe that you're just flaming in your own right :)
Mar 2, 2011 3:53pm
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Mar 2, 2011 3:56 PM
Stop saying flaming. :)
Mar 2, 2011 3:56pm
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I Wear Pants;697529 wrote:Stop saying flaming. :)
haha! I thought that might get a rise out of someone, never thought it would be YOU though lol
Mar 2, 2011 4:10pm
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Mar 2, 2011 7:01 PM
Perhaps Obama needs to call out some more cops for being racists. Then we can have another beer summit to talk about.
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Mar 2, 2011 7:21 PM
CenterBHSFan;697526 wrote:Yeah, I'm curious to know a few things, Louie.

Did you think Michelle Obama was flaming the President when she "misspoke" about his home country being Kenya?
Or perhaps Obama was flaming himself when he "misspoke" about his muslim faith?

Just curious because I don't seem to recall you starting threads about those and other misquotes, although I could be wrong and not remembering correctly. If I am not recalling rightly, please inform me because I don't want to falsely believe that you're just flaming in your own right :)

Here's why I find the Huckabee issue intriguing:

He's doing an interview with a way-out-there nut job who accuses Obama of hating the West, and Huckabee claims that the "one thing he knows" is that Obama, having been raised in Kenya, has a biased view of the British because of their role in the Mau Mau rebellion. Huckabee's people claim that he "misspoke", and that he meant to say Indonesia. The only problem with this excuse is that Indonesia has nothing whatsoever to do with the Mau Mau rebellion or the British, as it was the French who colonized Indonesia. Huckabee's whole rant was based on Obama being raised in Kenya, an obvious lie.

It just amazes me that a supposed "man of the cloth" would resort to this kind of pandering to the lowest common denominator in order to attract the fringe element of his own party, and it's obvious these were his tactics, to throw out an obvious lie in order to get support from the right -wing base.

And as for Michelle Obama's video clip, yeah, she used the term "home country", but she never said that he was raised there or that his beliefs were sharpened there. I believe she said it because Obama's father was Kenyan. I don't find that to be anywhere near what Huckabee has done.
Mar 2, 2011 7:21pm
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Writerbuckeye;697774 wrote:Perhaps Obama needs to call out some more cops for being racists. Then we can have another beer summit to talk about.
True. That worked well for Barry the first time.
Mar 3, 2011 4:01am
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Mar 3, 2011 8:53 AM
stlouiedipalma;697796 wrote:Here's why I find the Huckabee issue intriguing:

He's doing an interview with a way-out-there nut job who accuses Obama of hating the West, and Huckabee claims that the "one thing he knows" is that Obama, having been raised in Kenya, has a biased view of the British because of their role in the Mau Mau rebellion. Huckabee's people claim that he "misspoke", and that he meant to say Indonesia. The only problem with this excuse is that Indonesia has nothing whatsoever to do with the Mau Mau rebellion or the British, as it was the French who colonized Indonesia. Huckabee's whole rant was based on Obama being raised in Kenya, an obvious lie.

It just amazes me that a supposed "man of the cloth" would resort to this kind of pandering to the lowest common denominator in order to attract the fringe element of his own party, and it's obvious these were his tactics, to throw out an obvious lie in order to get support from the right -wing base.

And as for Michelle Obama's video clip, yeah, she used the term "home country", but she never said that he was raised there or that his beliefs were sharpened there. I believe she said it because Obama's father was Kenyan. I don't find that to be anywhere near what Huckabee has done.
Nice liberalized interpretation. Would it not be far more conceivable for someone participating a live interview to misspeak vs someone giving a planned, rehearsed, note aided speech? Logically speaking the latter should be the most intentional and accurate and the former more probable for error. But that ratiocination would not fit with the defense of the Obamas while castigating those that don't share leftist ideology. :shrugs:
Mar 3, 2011 8:53am
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Mar 5, 2011 6:22 AM
To answer the original question, I doubt Huckabee intentionally floated it out there. There is no way he would try that and think he could get away with it. I do however think he is a bit of a dumbass at times.
Mar 5, 2011 6:22am
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Mar 5, 2011 7:05 AM
BCBulldog;700049 wrote:To answer the original question, I doubt Huckabee intentionally floated it out there. There is no way he would try that and think he could get away with it. I do however think he is a bit of a dumbass at times.
As do I. There's no way the GOP will allow Huckleberry or Sara Palin to get the Repub nomination. Chris Christie, Mitch Daniels, and/or Scott Walker have my early votes. :)
Mar 5, 2011 7:05am
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Mar 5, 2011 1:14 PM
Huckabee has had quite the interesting week. First he "misspeaks" about Obama's upbringing, then he states that Obama is "different" from us because he didn't grow up in the Boy Scouts, playing little league baseball and Rotary Clubs (there's some serious code going on there) and finished the week with his Dan Quayle impersonation, ripping Natalie Portman for being pregnant out of wedlock.

If it weren't for his big-time mortgage, he wouldn't need the Fox money. I don't see him risking the loss of this vital income this year at least. He might declare early next year, once he has amassed some serious bucks on the lecture circuit and can afford to let go of Fox News. For now, he'll be content to play the loose screw in the Republican party.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20038796-503544.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110304/ts_yblog_theticket/mike-huckabee-concludes-a-week-of-gaffes-by-slamming-natalie-portman
Mar 5, 2011 1:14pm
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Mar 5, 2011 4:24 PM
The Kenyan comments were ehh, bad, but whatever. But, the Natalie Portman one is awful. Yeah, criticize one of the bright spots in Hollywood, who has a degree from Harvard, and is marrying the expected baby's father. Compared to Lindsay Lohan and Charlie Sheen, Portman is a saint.
Mar 5, 2011 4:24pm
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Mar 5, 2011 4:49 PM
ptown_trojans_1;700333 wrote:The Kenyan comments were ehh, bad, but whatever. But, the Natalie Portman one is awful. Yeah, criticize one of the bright spots in Hollywood, who has a degree from Harvard, and is marrying the expected baby's father. Compared to Lindsay Lohan and Charlie Sheen, Portman is a saint.
I suppose so provided anything coming out of Hollyweird is worthy of national import.
Mar 5, 2011 4:49pm
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ptown_trojans_1;700333 wrote:The Kenyan comments were ehh, bad, but whatever. But, the Natalie Portman one is awful. Yeah, criticize one of the bright spots in Hollywood, who has a degree from Harvard, and is marrying the expected baby's father. Compared to Lindsay Lohan and Charlie Sheen, Portman is a saint.

ptown...did you read or hear what he said? For those that did not:

“One of the things that’s troubling is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet who boasts of, ‘Hey look, you know, we’re having children, we’re not married, but we’re having these children, and they’re doing just fine,’” Huckabee said earlier this week in an interview with conservative radio host Michael Medved. “But there aren’t really a lot of single moms out there who are making millions of dollars every year for being in a movie. And I think it gives a distorted image that yes, not everybody hires nannies, and caretakers, and nurses. Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have health care. And that‘s the story that we’re not seeing, and it’s unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock [sic].”

Then, when people claimed he was "slamming" Portman, he came back with this:

In a recent media interview about my new book, A Simple Government, I discussed the first chapter, “The Most Important Form of Government Is a Father, Mother, and Children.” I was asked about Oscar-winner Natalie Portman’s out-of-wedlock pregnancy.” Natalie is an extraordinary actor, very deserving of her recent Oscar and I am glad she will marry her baby’s father. However, contrary to what the Hollywood media reported, I did not “slam” or “attack” Natalie Portman, nor did I criticize the hardworking single mothers in our country. My comments were about the statistical reality that most single moms are very poor, under-educated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death. That‘s the story that we’re not seeing, and it’s unfortunate that society often glorifies and glamorizes the idea of having children out of wedlock.”

I'm not in Huckabee's court, but I do agree with much of his conservative stances regarding matters economic. If you read what he said, how is that "awful"? It has been one of Bill Cosby's rants for decades now. Why is Cosby not seen as awful, but Huckabee is?
Mar 5, 2011 5:59pm
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Mar 5, 2011 6:14 PM
BGFalcons82;700412 wrote:It has been one of Bill Cosby's rants for decades now. Why is Cosby not seen as awful, but Huckabee is?
Um....I really, really want to respond to that but I don't think I need to.
Mar 5, 2011 6:14pm
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Mar 5, 2011 11:52 PM
A lot of what Cosby says doesn't make him very popular with the "blacks as victims" crowd, led by Sharpton, Jackson and that lot.

And Huckabee is absolutely correct when he says single moms typically have it really, really hard, can't get jobs, lose out on education and generally have to claw their way back from abject poverty to be successful. Portman isn't a typical single mom (anyone remember the whole Murphy Brown debate with Quayle?) Same argument exactly, just a different time.

Those blasting Huckabee are ignoring reality and taking things waaaaay too personally. Then again, liberals thrive on emotional responses vs. logic and reason, so none of this is a surprise.
Mar 5, 2011 11:52pm
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Mar 6, 2011 12:27 AM




Huckabee could have taken a page from the Kenya way of life like Obama did.
Mar 6, 2011 12:27am
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Mar 6, 2011 6:23 AM
CinciX12;700681 wrote:



Huckabee could have taken a page from the Kenya way of life like Obama did.


True


Mar 6, 2011 6:23am
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Mar 6, 2011 8:10 AM
Hilarious!
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On the side: I don't really give a damn about Huckabee one way or the other, so I could care less what he says or doesn't say. I'll never vote for him, so its not like his "misspeaks" will sway my opinion at all. I think most of the population is lukewarm about him at best.
Mar 6, 2011 8:10am