Half marathon training help

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dave
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Mar 8, 2011 10:31am
Just ran my first 5k Saturday, just under 29mins. I'm no runner, but I enjoy them. Hoping to run the Reds Community Fund race in June at around 25mins.

They really aren't hard, it's not like you can't drink a few beers the night before. Plus you will get much more satisfaction out of it than getting wasted, unless maybe you are 18.

Anyone have specific tips on going from 5k to 10k? I don't see it being to hard but wondering if you encountered any difficulties.
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Con_Alma
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Mar 8, 2011 10:39am
dave;703192 wrote:...
Anyone have specific tips on going from 5k to 10k? I don't see it being to hard but wondering if you encountered any difficulties.
The 10K distance is a nasty, nasty race. Your speed isn't that much slower than in a 5K but it's double the distance. This is a very difficult race distance to perform. I would rather compete in a marathon than a 10K. They hurt.
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Fab4Runner
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Mar 8, 2011 10:42am
dave;703192 wrote:
They really aren't hard, it's not like you can't drink a few beers the night before. Plus you will get much more satisfaction out of it than getting wasted, unless maybe you are 18.


I am 26...but maybe I have the maturity of an 18 year old. Either way...hometown fest = all day drunk fest. I do not live there anymore and it is the one time a year I get to see tons of friends and family and have a good time with all of them. When you grow up in a town of 1800 the festival is the biggest thing to happen all year and I still enjoy it.
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thavoice
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Mar 8, 2011 10:48am
dave;703192 wrote:Just ran my first 5k Saturday, just under 29mins. I'm no runner, but I enjoy them. Hoping to run the Reds Community Fund race in June at around 25mins.

They really aren't hard, it's not like you can't drink a few beers the night before. Plus you will get much more satisfaction out of it than getting wasted, unless maybe you are 18.

Anyone have specific tips on going from 5k to 10k? I don't see it being to hard but wondering if you encountered any difficulties.

I have found that the biggest jump people see is usually between their first and second races for a few reasons. One is confidence. After running your first one, especially for those who consider themselves non runners, you get confidence you can do it and know that you can do a little better pace!

As far as tips for the 10K. Really extend out your training runs. As someone else said....10ks can be nasty, nasty races. I usually run one a year, a big one in Minster Ohio Oktoberfest. For a newer runner you will wanna slow down your pace because it is double the distance. I find myself the most torn up after a 10k becausae as others said....it is double the distance but ya dont slow down much for many racers!
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thavoice
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Mar 8, 2011 10:50am
Con_Alma;703204 wrote:The 10K distance is a nasty, nasty race. Your speed isn't that much slower than in a 5K but it's double the distance. This is a very difficult race distance to perform. I would rather compete in a marathon than a 10K. They hurt.

I agree. I feel much better after a HM than a 10k...but maybe thats because I leave too much on the table in the HM
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Con_Alma
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Mar 8, 2011 10:54am
dave;703192 wrote:... Plus you will get much more satisfaction out of it than getting wasted, unless maybe you are 18.

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Although it isn't the night before, there are plenty of older than 18yo runners who get much enjoyment out of a beer or two!

http://www.boilermaker.com/events/post-race-party.php



"Post Race Party

post race partyDon’t miss distance running’s best and most popular post-race party. The Post Race Party sponsored by Price Chopper and hosted by The Matt Brewing Company is a fun, unique, festive celebration that gives runners, as well as their friends and family, a chance to revel in their accomplishments and enjoy the spirit of the community.

With a live concert, world-famous Saranac beer and soft drinks, food, an awards ceremony, and more... this party sets the standard for post race celebrations in the U.S.!"

In addition, you might check out the Has House Harriers. They are a group of drinkers with a running problem. They exist in almost everywhere around the world.

http://gthhh.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_House_Harriers

"The Hash House Harriers (abbreviated to HHH, H3, or referred to simply as Hashing) is an international group of non-competitive running, social and drinking clubs. ..."
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Sonofanump
Mar 8, 2011 11:09am
I am having trouble finding a 10K in northern Ohio. I wanted to run one before my Olympic tri in mid June. Anyone run the one Medina at the end of May or the Rite Aid in Cleveland in mid May?
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dave
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Mar 8, 2011 11:09am
Wow that's awesome, and that's my point. You can some before and a lot after.

I ran the Komen in Toledo when I was a student at UT the morning after we had a huge football game that night and some parties. As long as you stop drinking 6-8 hours before the race and have some water and a good meal a 5k jog/slow run should be no problem.
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Con_Alma
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Mar 8, 2011 11:14am
Sonofanump;703262 wrote:... I wanted to run one before my Olympic tri in mid June. Anyone run the one Medina at the end of May or the Rite Aid in Cleveland in mid May?
I have run the Rite Aid 10k before, although it's been almost 8years ago since I ran that distance there. It's a very competitive field...at least it was back then when they paid to win...and not just Ohioans.

The course had some quality bridge hills to attack and plenty of people in anyone's respective ability to race.
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thavoice
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Mar 8, 2011 11:20am
Con_Alma;703269 wrote:I have run the Rite Aid 10k before, although it's been almost 8years ago since I ran that distance there. It's a very competitive field...at least it was back then when they paid to win...and not just Ohioans.

The course had some quality bridge hills to attack and plenty of people in anyone's respective ability to race.

The Oktoberfest 10K in minster pays cash money for the winners...and up to 2k for a course record. they get runners from far and wide..even some kenyans residing in US
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Sonofanump
Mar 8, 2011 11:21am
Con_Alma;703269 wrote:I have run the Rite Aid 10k before, although it's been almost 8years ago since I ran that distance there. It's a very competitive field...at least it was back then when they paid to win...and not just Ohioans.

The course had some quality bridge hills to attack and plenty of people in anyone's respective ability to race.

Thanks, if I go I'll start in the back. Is the 10K a big field (500+)?
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Con_Alma
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Mar 8, 2011 11:28am
Last year there were 1884 males that competed in the 10K portion and 2461 females.

http://results.active.com/pages/searchform.jsp#hot_links
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thavoice
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Mar 8, 2011 12:04pm
PREtty big race! The one I run has around 1700 runners or so, but the town is only 2700 population
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friendfromlowry
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Mar 8, 2011 12:29pm
The 10K is like the 800meter run in track in that you have to run a fast pace (comparable) to the 400m and it's still twice the distance. So yeah, it sucks.
There is a decent-sized one in Troy the first weekend of June for the Strawberry festival...kind of a haul for you northerners.
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iclfan2
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Mar 20, 2011 8:18pm
Hey CC, or anyone else for that matter, what do you think of those ridiculous looking Vibram five fingers shoes?
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iclfan2
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Mar 20, 2011 9:38pm
I would assume that I don't have good running form. I haven't ran in awhile and figured some new shoes were in order. A girl I work with has them and swears by them, but I can't really get over how ridiculous it looks. Even for an amateur runner, would going to the local running store and getting the GAIT (sp?) test done be worthwhile to figure out what shoes would be the best?
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thavoice
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Mar 21, 2011 10:37am
I tried some on and they are different, a little cool, but not for me for running. I need alot of cushioning and they do not help me.

This brings up a good topic though when asking about shoes. Do not take what other people say as gospel about shoes when correlating it to yourself. Each person is different and I always suggest going to a running specialty store and try out pair after pair after pair. My first time I went was a place in Dayton called Endurance Sports. The guy in there was very knowledgeable and helpfu. Going in I had 3-5 models of shoes that I had read great reviews from people online and in RW. PEople were raving about them I was gonna order online but decided to go to teh store. The ones I read reviews on I tried..and didnt like any of them. I ended up with a pair I had not heard of...and they were actually cheaper than the rest (I only look at the price of my running shoes after I decide...I dont want that as an influence).

So....yeah...ya can seek advice but ya do not really know until you go in and try them out. I have gone there 3 times I think. I dont go every time I need new running shoes but I do go when the line I wear becomes obsolete and I need to find a new line of shoes to go to.
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Con_Alma
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Mar 21, 2011 11:13am
ccrunner609;719199 wrote:... Running shoes with all that cushioning causes us to rely on support of the shoe. It increases the chance of producing people with poor running form. ...
This is the truth. Wish more folks would head to this fact.

Uses crutches for too long makes it difficult to walk without them.
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Mar 21, 2011 11:43am
iclfan2;719071 wrote:Hey CC, or anyone else for that matter, what do you think of those ridiculous looking Vibram five fingers shoes?

The Nike Free have a similar effect, but with some cushioning.
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thavoice
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Mar 22, 2011 9:11am
ccrunner609;720194 wrote:I am right down the road from there and most of my team goes there to check out shoes

Been there 3-5 times..its about hour half or so away. The owner, i presume he is the owner, is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable. Love testing out new shoes on his outside "track"!