Fly4Fun;688330 wrote:NBA... I thought the past few years with the talent spread amongst the teams were great.

I know people will counter that historically the NBA has always been a few strong teams (ex. Lakers, Celtics, Bulls in the 90's). But there is a reason the NBA isn't as comparatively more popular than the College game than other sports such as NFL-College, NHL-College, MLB-College. In all of those the professional league is leaps and bounds more popular than the college rankings... not so in Basketball.

The NBA is a broken system and needs fixing... and maybe the only way to do that is a lockout.

Hb31187;688828 wrote:How can you "fix" players signing where they want? A franchise tag?

Look at the teams when basketball was in its glory days...the Celtics and Lakers had like 5 hof'ers per team, nobody complained about thet league being top heavy or what not then

BR1986FB;688873 wrote:
As far as your "glory days Lakers & Celtics" comment, BIG difference. Boston & LA built their mega teams through the draft and saavy trades. They didn't have whiny, petulant children saying "trade me here, trade me there" or sneaky bastard superstars lining up their "super power" team during the Olympics, tanking games INTENTIONALLY/ faking injuries so they didn't have to explain WHY they were leaving after winning a championship and colluding to all join together when their next free agency hit.

Pick6;688895 wrote:how many teams have won a championship doing this again?

BR1986FB;688899 wrote:Which group are you talking about? The glory days Lakers & Celtics who built through the draft and saavy trades or the 3 Stooges in Miami?

Pick6;688916 wrote:miami.

Pick6;688916 wrote:miami.

BR1986FB;688873 wrote:NBA players USED TO have a set of balls. It was a "I'll beat you myself if I have to (see MJ, Bird, Magic)" mentality, not a "jesus, I'm not good enough so I'll join a bunch of other superstars and win a ring that way" mindset. That's why a lot of people are turned off by the NBA, no testicles. It's like a lot of the early 20-somethings...they don't want to work HARD for something. They want it AND expect it, handed to them.

karen lotz;688954 wrote:Exactly what years did MJ, Bird, and Magic win titles by themselves? Who cares if good players don't want to play where they know it isn't possible to win a championship? The prime of their careers is short enough as it is, why waste it playing somewhere to not upset a fan base? I'm also pretty sure that the truly great players work extremely hard, or they wouldn't be great.

Pick6;688956 wrote:are you saying it was impossible to win a championship in cleveland?

karen lotz;688958 wrote:No I'm not saying it was impossible. Obviously the Cavs made it to the Finals once and did have a shot the last few years. But at the same time you can't fault anyone for wanting to play elsewhere. I wasn't talking specifically LeBron or Cleveland. Amar'e wasn't going to win a championship in Phoenix, Carmelo wasn't going to win in Denver, etc. I do understand why people don't like stars joining up through free agency but I also can't blame the players for wanting to do so.

KR1245;688964 wrote:My biggest problem is the way in which they are going about it

BR1986FB;688873 wrote:As far as your "franchise tag" comment, BINGO! This is supposedly already being discussed.

As far as your "glory days Lakers & Celtics" comment, BIG difference. Boston & LA built their mega teams through the draft and saavy trades. They didn't have whiny, petulant children saying "trade me here, trade me there" or sneaky bastard superstars lining up their "super power" team during the Olympics, tanking games INTENTIONALLY/ faking injuries so they didn't have to explain WHY they were leaving after winning a championship and colluding to all join together when their next free agency hit.

NBA players USED TO have a set of balls. It was a "I'll beat you myself if I have to (see MJ, Bird, Magic)" mentality, not a "jesus, I'm not good enough so I'll join a bunch of other superstars and win a ring that way" mindset. That's why a lot of people are turned off by the NBA, no testicles. It's like a lot of the early 20-somethings...they don't want to work HARD for something. They want it AND expect it, handed to them.

Con_Alma;688269 wrote: A professional league not playing in any given year wouldn't even be on my radar screen of concern.

SportsAndLady;689299 wrote:So why even answer?

That's like me going on a female hygiene message board and posting on a thread asking what kind of tampon you like best "I couldn't care less which tampon to get because I don't use tampons"