osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Feb 21, 2011 10:20pm
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 21, 2011 10:22pm
With this and the Lebron circus last summer....really glad the players are pretty much running things now.....
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Feb 21, 2011 10:24pm
Thank god it's over.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Feb 21, 2011 10:25pm
Dunno what the big deal about players wanting to play in big markets. If you're going to be a FA you should be able to go sign wherever you want, you cant tell players where they can and cant play
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Feb 21, 2011 10:26pm
Knicks ended up giving up Mozgov too. Zeke is definitely advising Nolan.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 21, 2011 10:27pm
Hb31187;686702 wrote:Dunno what the big deal about players wanting to play in big markets. If you're going to be a FA you should be able to go sign wherever you want, you cant tell players where they can and cant play
yeah, but they are holding teams at ransom. I just think it has been going downhill for a few years now. The business side of it is complete turn off.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 21, 2011 10:28pm
karen lotz;686703 wrote:Knicks ended up giving up Mozgov too. Zeke is definitely advising Nolan.
Absolutely he is, Isiah even got the Knicks to bring back his greatest draft pick Renaldo Balkman.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Feb 21, 2011 10:34pm
Knicks will = better.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 21, 2011 10:35pm
Hb31187;686702 wrote:Dunno what the big deal about players wanting to play in big markets. If you're going to be a FA you should be able to go sign wherever you want, you cant tell players where they can and cant play
Im with you, because I look at myself and being able to choose where I look. Only difference is that they are owned by a team, and in turn also the league. I cant just tell my company to trade me to NYC cause I wanna work there. I can quit my job and go move there fine, but I wouldnt be brought back into my company. That is the difference in real work and sports.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 21, 2011 10:38pm
wes_mantooth;686697 wrote:With this and the Lebron circus last summer....really glad the players are pretty much running things now.....
wes_mantooth;686705 wrote:yeah, but they are holding teams at ransom. I just think it has been going downhill for a few years now. The business side of it is complete turn off.
+1 it is only to get worse.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 21, 2011 10:39pm
People are gonna love this team cuz the players weren't douches like Lebron about going to their new teams.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Feb 21, 2011 10:40pm
Laley23;686715 wrote:Im with you, because I look at myself and being able to choose where I look. Only difference is that they are owned by a team, and in turn also the league. I cant just tell my company to trade me to NYC cause I wanna work there. I can quit my job and go move there fine, but I wouldnt be brought back into my company. That is the difference in real work and sports.
If he really wanted to though, he could of just waited til the end of the season and went and signed with NYK and the Nugs would of got next to nothing out of it. Itd be like a person relocating to a different branch of his or her job. He did the Nuggets a favor by telling them he basically wasnt gonna re sign, at least they got pieces out of his trade instead of gettin fucked over like Cleveland.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 21, 2011 10:41pm
SportsAndLady;686718 wrote:People are gonna love this team cuz the players weren't douches like Lebron about going to their new teams.
It was only 1 player.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 21, 2011 10:42pm
Hb31187;686722 wrote:If he really wanted to though, he could of just waited til the end of the season and went and signed with NYK and the Nugs would of got next to nothing out of it. Itd be like a person relocating to a different branch of his or her job. He did the Nuggets a favor by telling them he basically wasnt gonna re sign, at least they got pieces out of his trade instead of gettin fucked over like Cleveland.
This.
He told the Nuggs he wasn't resigning. It was up to them to make a deal happen or they would lose him in the off season and get NOTHING.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 21, 2011 10:43pm
Hb31187;686722 wrote:If he really wanted to though, he could of just waited til the end of the season and went and signed with NYK and the Nugs would of got next to nothing out of it. Itd be like a person relocating to a different branch of his or her job. He did the Nuggets a favor by telling them he basically wasnt gonna re sign, at least they got pieces out of his trade instead of gettin fucked over like Cleveland.
Good point. It really just isnt possible to relate sports to real life lol.
I dont blame players at all for wanting to go to the bigger cities and make more money and all that. I just think you sign a contract, you play it out and dont bitch and moan (not that Carmelo did that, or even LeBron...but too many players do). It isnt like the NFL where they can cut you after the season, if you sign a contract, you honor it and then make a choice.
If you know like Melo, then you can tell the FO your going to be leaving so they can trade you. I like how he went about this.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 21, 2011 10:43pm
Maybe next year but i don't see them being much better if at all the rest of this year. That is a lot of changes to get clicking in a short time.ernest_t_bass;686714 wrote:Knicks will = better.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 21, 2011 10:44pm
Since no one has posted the deal....lol
Denver gets:
Wilson Chandler
Raymond Felton
Danilo Gallinari
Timofey Mozgov
Knicks' 2014 first-round draft pick
Warriors' 2012 second-round pick
Warriors' 2013 second-round pick
$3 million in cash
New York gets:
Melo
Chauncey Billups
Shelden Williams
Anthony Carter
Renaldo Balkman
Denver gets:
Wilson Chandler
Raymond Felton
Danilo Gallinari
Timofey Mozgov
Knicks' 2014 first-round draft pick
Warriors' 2012 second-round pick
Warriors' 2013 second-round pick
$3 million in cash
New York gets:
Melo
Chauncey Billups
Shelden Williams
Anthony Carter
Renaldo Balkman
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 21, 2011 10:44pm
wildcats20;686726 wrote:It was only 1 player.
Till Deron Williams/Chris Paul join.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 21, 2011 10:44pm
Well, the blueprint for a bad PR move and how to fuck over your current team had been established, so there was little chance of him going that route.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 21, 2011 10:45pm
Laley23;686735 wrote:Till Deron Williams/Chris Paul join.
True.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 21, 2011 10:47pm
And where did the Warriors' picks come from??
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 21, 2011 10:47pm
wildcats20;686737 wrote:True.
That's what I meant..I figured someone else would go to NY after this season, no one is going to hate them though
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 21, 2011 10:48pm
SportsAndLady;686740 wrote:That's what I meant..I figured someone else would go to NY after this season, no one is going to hate them though
Yeah I was being too narrow minded and only thinking about right now. I'm not sure who it's going to be(won't be Chauncey though), but there will be a stud PG in the Garden next year.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 21, 2011 10:51pm
wildcats20;686742 wrote:Yeah I was being too narrow minded and only thinking about right now. I'm not sure who it's going to be(won't be Chauncey though), but there will be a stud PG in the Garden next year.
Wasnt it Deron Williams who just had the report that said he would sign with NYK if they got Amare (I know, but it just surfaced recently) or something?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 21, 2011 10:54pm
I think Deron will go to NY...Deron, Melo, and Amare seem like a great fit.