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Feb 21, 2011 4:41 PM
With all the public protest and rioting with the intent of overthrowing the governments going on in the middle east,could this be the beginning of the end of the world as we know it today?
We can see it starting to happen in our own country with the protest going on in Ohio and Wisconsin with the government trying to take the rights away from the public sector.The way Obama is trying to become a dictator,could we see people such as the tea party movement trying to overthrow our government and demand change.Will the OC crowd be behind Justin to become our new leader if he tries to establish himself as the people's choice to take control?
Feb 21, 2011 4:41pm
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Feb 21, 2011 4:44 PM
Nah. If you look back to the amount of unrest (both domestic and global) back in the '60s and '70s, I don't think it's all that different.

As far as if this is the end of the world as we know it ... every second is the end of the world as we know it, because the world is an ever-changing entity, never staying the same from one moment to the next.
Feb 21, 2011 4:44pm
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Feb 21, 2011 4:46 PM
If by "be behind Justin" you mean "with a knife prepared to stab him right in the back", then yes to everything you've said. Or at least the part involving Justin.
Feb 21, 2011 4:46pm
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Feb 21, 2011 4:46 PM
You haven't seen nothing yet once they announce people aren't getting their entitlements. This country is bankrupt, we can't afford 95% of the shit we have and we just keep adding on more shit.
Feb 21, 2011 4:46pm
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Feb 21, 2011 5:00 PM
password;686227 wrote:With all the public protest and rioting with the intent of overthrowing the governments going on in the middle east,could this be the beginning of the end of the world as we know it today?
We can see it starting to happen in our own country with the protest going on in Ohio and Wisconsin with the government trying to take the rights away from the public sector.The way Obama is trying become a dictator,could we see people such as the tea party movement trying to overthrow our government and demand change.Will the OC crowd be behind Justin to become our new leader if he tries to establish himself as the people's choice to take control?
What?
Feb 21, 2011 5:00pm
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Feb 21, 2011 5:13 PM
I Wear Pants;686256 wrote:What?

How did I miss that opportunity???
Feb 21, 2011 5:13pm
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Feb 21, 2011 5:17 PM
No.
Feb 21, 2011 5:17pm
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Feb 21, 2011 6:04 PM
O-Trap;686277 wrote:How did I miss that opportunity???

Because you are an idiot? Go market some more email bullshit.
Feb 21, 2011 6:04pm
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Feb 21, 2011 7:05 PM
There is definitely a lot of turmoil in the world and it looks like there is plenty more to come too. If Iran can get their two battle ships through the Suez Canal and offload their cargo to Hezbullah, it could be a game changer world wide.
Feb 21, 2011 7:05pm
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Feb 21, 2011 7:20 PM
password;686227 wrote:Will the OC crowd be behind Justin to become our new leader if he tries to establish himself as the people's choice to take control?

1. Depends on who he chooses to be his cohorts
and

2. It will be sedition, anarchy and total chaos like the world has never witnessed before.

3. No doubt that Mantooth will be "behind" Justin, pulling the reigns.
Feb 21, 2011 7:20pm
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Feb 21, 2011 7:56 PM
ccrunner609;686411 wrote:I like what is going on in the middle east, GW Bush pushed in there and faought for democracies. What you see is a huge payoff now that all these other regimes are gonna fall and Democracies can be made.

The big problem right now is that Obama is not being assertive, he is taking the high road and the low road and not making a stand for the people of these countries. We all know that these brutal dictators need to go. Obama is a coward.

Why should our gas prices go up 25 cents because Lybians want freedom? We need to get out of relying on these regimes till they get it right. Should of started that 20 years ago.

I like the post and agree with everything except the regime change because some of these people were our allies and now we don't know who will rule these countries and that could be bad for the United States.
When Justin takes control of our country,will he appoint Gibby as his ambassador of race relations?
Feb 21, 2011 7:56pm
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Feb 21, 2011 8:15 PM
Nope.
Feb 21, 2011 8:15pm
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Feb 21, 2011 8:59 PM
password;686472 wrote:When Justin takes control of our country,will he appoint Gibby as his ambassador of race relations?
Justin, PLEASE say "YES!" to this question!
Feb 21, 2011 8:59pm
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Feb 21, 2011 9:20 PM
ccrunner609;686411 wrote:I like what is going on in the middle east, GW Bush pushed in there and faought for democracies. What you see is a huge payoff now that all these other regimes are gonna fall and Democracies can be made.
Really? I am not saying one way or the other, but we wanted a regime change in Afghanistan (when the Soviets were in there trying to take over) and look what happened.....the Taliban. It is very delicate right now. Yes, they could push for democracy, but will it sustain after a leader is elected and will that leader let democracy flourish?
ccrunner609;686411 wrote:The big problem right now is that Obama is not being assertive, he is taking the high road and the low road and not making a stand for the people of these countries. We all know that these brutal dictators need to go. Obama is a coward.
You're serious with this? It is not Obama's job to take a stand for these people. He is the POTUS, not anywhere else.

ccrunner609;686491 wrote:No we were never really allies with them, we might of propped them up under the table with military spending. Mostly to keep the oil flowing or to make sure they would use them to keep the region under control.
Which is exactly why these countries, even if they do become democracies, may not be friendly towards us. The reason many in the Mid East do not like the US is because we have propped up dictators (for our interests) and many of these dictators have been brutal to their people. When electing a new leader, many of the citizens of these countries aren't likely to forget what the US has done and how we have intervened in their affairs over the years.
ccrunner609;686411 wrote:We have delt way too many backdoor deals in the region and it led to these regimes staying in power way to long, now they are tasting the change of democracy and they want a bigger drink.
Again, it could backfire on us.

ccrunner609;686411 wrote:GW Bush will be written as a great president if this all works out.
I'm not so sure of that. He will never be better than average. His spending was out of control and the Iraq war will always have a large group view it as a bungled blunder, because it was.
Feb 21, 2011 9:20pm
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Feb 21, 2011 11:09 PM
ccrunner609;686630 wrote:Do you know who propped up the Taliban? We were fighting the Russians more then the Afghans were. When all we gave them was weapons and not a strong government you get the Taliban
What about what has happened in Iran? We propped up the Shah and he was overthrown and then the Ayathollah came into power. Iran is a perfect example of what COULD happen in the ME. I am hoping for the outcome you are also hoping for. I am also aware of the other outcomes that could happen.


ccrunner609;686630 wrote:Yeah serious, his silence is deafening to the world. He needs to use his POTUS position to show the world that we are still on top. We look weak like the French when our guy doesnt assert himself.
How exactly do we appear weak when we don't interfere with others affairs? I'm genuinely interested as to how you believe this to be true.

ccrunner609;686630 wrote:If a 1/2 dozen countries build democratic governemnts and it stabilizes the region and diminishes the Muslim jihad.......he will be written as a top 10 president. And dont even talk about spending......

I agree that if all you have listed happen, it would reflect positively on GWB. That being said, the probability of that happening isn't very high. Also, why not mention spending? It is one aspect of his presidency that he didn't do well with IMO. I'm not comparing him to Obama or anyone else, but Bush spent more than almost every other president in our history. He was NOT a fiscal conservative. He expanded the strength of the federal government by implementing programs and spending bills that created new (unconstitutional) laws such as the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act and deparments like Homeland Security which is an utter failure and is very inefficient.

So if the ME does become a stable region, that will be one successful aspect of his career, but that doesn't define a presidency.
Feb 21, 2011 11:09pm
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Feb 21, 2011 11:16 PM
since when did all of the political jargon make it into serious business?
Feb 21, 2011 11:16pm
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Feb 21, 2011 11:36 PM
Yea,Who the hell started this thread?
Feb 21, 2011 11:36pm
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Feb 21, 2011 11:53 PM
-Society-;686352 wrote:Because you are an idiot? Go market some more email bullshit.
Oh.

K.
Feb 21, 2011 11:53pm
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Feb 22, 2011 12:16 AM
Will the OC survive a radical change in our government or will it become just another washed up internet chat site?
Feb 22, 2011 12:16am
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Feb 22, 2011 12:17 AM
password;686846 wrote:Will the OC survive a radical change in our government or will it become just another washed up internet chat site?

Tune in next week!
Feb 22, 2011 12:17am
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Feb 22, 2011 1:32 AM
password;686846 wrote:Will the OC survive a radical change in our government or will it become just another washed up internet chat site?

It always has been a washed up chat site.
Feb 22, 2011 1:32am
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Feb 22, 2011 9:03 AM
dwccrew;686856 wrote:It always has been a minor league site.
Fixed for accuracy.
Feb 22, 2011 9:03am
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Feb 22, 2011 10:05 AM
O-Trap;686948 wrote:Fixed for accuracy.

bonelizzard is right on the other thread, you are trying to make yourself sound highly educated. :D
Feb 22, 2011 10:05am
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Feb 22, 2011 10:16 AM
dwccrew;687014 wrote:bonelizzard is right on the other thread, you are trying to make yourself sound highly educated. :D

yu is rite i shud tri 2 dum stuf doun so uthr pepol cin undrstand

In all seriousness, if I sound odd, then I sound odd. I always type this way, and even usually speak this way as well.
Feb 22, 2011 10:16am