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Mar 2, 2011 9:48 AM
just looked up olentangy and they have 17 people making over 100000 and the only one who is on a 185 day contract makes 105000 and that is definintly not a teacher. you cant make that as a teacher.
Mar 2, 2011 9:48am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:00 AM
Gblock;697023 wrote:100000 in salary just for teaching? or is that including money they make in supplementals like coaching or breakfast duty etc...i highly doubt 100000 for a teacher. it would be on outlier for sure. even if it were true..several posters said that they thought 100000 was fair for an AP chemistry teacher...

Not saying it's not fair. WKfan said you wouldn't find any teachers making 100k
Mar 2, 2011 10:00am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:01 AM
Gblock;697035 wrote: you cant make that as a teacher.

Because you say so?
Mar 2, 2011 10:01am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:21 AM
LJ;697046 wrote:Because you say so?

its just a fact of the pay scales for public schools...most of them top out between 76000-80000... check out their master agreements. 105000 is just not possible at this time for teaching only in a public school yes i say so. prove me wrong and i will apologize.
Mar 2, 2011 10:21am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:23 AM
Gblock;697059 wrote:its just a fact of the pay scales for public schools...most of them top out between 76000-80000... check out their master agreements.

That's not true, because there are districts in central ohio with lots of teachers in the high 80's and 90's
Mar 2, 2011 10:23am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:26 AM
LJ;697063 wrote:That's not true, because there are districts in central ohio with lots of teachers in the high 80's and 90's

you top out at 80000 and that is after 15 years or so and then after 20 years you can get a 1700 dollar raise and at 25 something similar and at 30 something similar in many cases...so yes as i have said on this thread already you certainly can make 88000 at around 30 years. but that is not 100000, and certainly not 105000...if you or others had said 80's or 90's i would not have made any comments
Mar 2, 2011 10:26am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:27 AM
Gblock;697065 wrote:you top out at 80000 and that is after 15 years or so and then after 20 years you can get a 1700 dollar raise and at 25 something similar and at 30 something similar in many cases...so yes as i have said on this thread already you certainly can make 88000 at around 30 years. but that is not 100000, and certainly not 105000...if you or others had said 80's or 90's i would not have made any comments

the comment was that you cannot find teachers who make 100k, the fact is you can.
Mar 2, 2011 10:27am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:29 AM
LJ;697067 wrote:the comment was that you cannot find teachers who make 100k, the fact is you can.

in a public school for salary only?...i havent seen that. prove it and i will gladly take it back
Mar 2, 2011 10:29am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:30 AM
Gblock;697068 wrote:in a public school for salary only?...i havent seen that. prove it and i will gladly take it back

I already did. Prove that the salary for the employee at Olentangy is not a teacher.
Mar 2, 2011 10:30am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:31 AM
LJ;697070 wrote:I already did. Prove that the salary for the employee at Olentangy is not a teacher.

i will call up there after school and ask what dora does there
Mar 2, 2011 10:31am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:43 AM
She is an intervention teacher per the staff directory
Mar 2, 2011 10:43am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:43 AM
she is a intervention specialist at the high school and most likely is in charge of the IEP's for all of the Special ed students in the High School. My guess is she is the one responsible for coordinating who is responsible for each IEP and making sure they are in compliance and all meetings are held on time and filed correctly. this position is probably adding to her normal salary as is the case in our district. it requires a lot of after hours and summer work. the reason it is so important is because if you get sued over an IEP and it has spelling errors on it you will lose the case and probably a 5 figure judgment.
Mar 2, 2011 10:43am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:44 AM
Gblock;697084 wrote:she is a intervention specialist at the high school and most likely is in charge of the IEP's for all of the Special ed students in the High School. My guess is she is the one responsible for coordinating who is responsible for each IEP and making sure they are in compliance and all meetings are held on time and filed correctly. this position is probably adding to her normal salary as is the case in our district. it requires a lot of after hours and summer work. the reason it is so important is because if you get sued over an IEP and it has spelling errors on it you will lose the case and probably a 5 figure judgment.

Don't care.

She is a teacher who makes 100k
Mar 2, 2011 10:44am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:47 AM
LJ;697086 wrote:Don't care.

She is a teacher who makes 100k

An intervention specialist is NOT classroom teacher. They work with special ed /IEP kids from all grades within the school.

My daughter in law did this for 4 years before moving into a classroom this year.
Mar 2, 2011 10:47am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:47 AM
LJ;697086 wrote:Don't care.

She is a teacher who makes 100k

http://www.olentangyschools.net/pdf/OTATeachersContract.pdf
as per their master agreement a teacher with 35 years and a masters degree plus 45 hours can earn 96000 in salary
Mar 2, 2011 10:47am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:48 AM
wkfan;697091 wrote:An intervention specialist is NOT classroom teacher. They work with special ed /IEP kids from all grades within the school.

My daughter in law did this for 4 years before moving into a classroom this year.

She is a teacher, she is listed as a teacher, she is in the union as a teacher.

For all purposes, esp of this debate, she is a teacher.
Mar 2, 2011 10:48am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:49 AM
Gblock;697094 wrote:http://www.olentangyschools.net/pdf/OTATeachersContract.pdf
as per their master agreement a teacher with 35 years and a masters degree plus 45 hours can earn 96000 in salary

Is she a teacher that makes $100k

yes or no
Mar 2, 2011 10:49am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:52 AM
LJ;697095 wrote:She is a teacher, she is listed as a teacher, she is in the union as a teacher.

For all purposes, esp of this debate, she is a teacher.

Why? Because it fits your arguement???

In reality, this person is NOT a classroom teacher.
Mar 2, 2011 10:52am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:53 AM
LJ;697098 wrote:Is she a teacher that makes $100k

yes or no

not in base salary....i know several teachers who make 80000 and coach 3 sports and do breakfast duty who probably break 100000. but that is a different conversation

in onlentangy

35 years and a masters gets you 82000
35 years and masters +15 87000
35 years and masters +30 91,500
35 years and a master s +45 96000
Mar 2, 2011 10:53am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:55 AM
wkfan;697102 wrote:Why? Because it fits your arguement???

In reality, this person is NOT a classroom teacher.

She is a teacher.

PERIOD. Because it doesn't fit YOUR argument? please....
Mar 2, 2011 10:55am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:55 AM
Gblock;697103 wrote:not in base salary....i know several teachers who make 80000 and coach 3 sports and do breakfast duty who probably break 100000. but that is a different conversation

in onlentangy

35 years and a masters gets you 82000
35 years and masters +15 87000
35 years and masters +30 91,500
35 years and a master s +45 96000

Is she a teacher that makes 100k? Yes or no
Mar 2, 2011 10:55am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:56 AM
no
Mar 2, 2011 10:56am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:57 AM
Gblock;697113 wrote:no

False, but whatever you want to think.
Mar 2, 2011 10:57am
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Mar 2, 2011 10:58 AM
LJ;697109 wrote:She is a teacher.

PERIOD. Because it doesn't fit YOUR argument? please....
OK.....let me ask you this.

What qualifies you to determine that this person is a teacher or not?
Mar 2, 2011 10:58am