osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Feb 10, 2011 8:47pm
Best shooter in the game ....
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 10, 2011 8:50pm
Love me some Shuttlesworth.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 10, 2011 9:16pm
Definately the best with a hand in his face.....almost unguardable off of many screens....seems to just go along and when Boston needs a big shot.....he drills it.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Feb 10, 2011 9:16pm
No. He is good though. 45% Career from the field and 39% from 3's. The record stems from his games played as much as anything. Just my opinion. No need to bash me Mr. Boston Celtic.
For his career Reggie MIller shot 47% from the field. Big difference actually.
For his career Reggie MIller shot 47% from the field. Big difference actually.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 10, 2011 9:17pm
september63;673744 wrote:No. He is good though. 45% Career from the field and 39% from 3's. The record stems from his games played as much as anything. Just my opinion. No need to bash me Mr. Boston Celtic.
So who would you put above him, Reggie?
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Feb 10, 2011 9:19pm
september63;673744 wrote:No. He is good though. 45% Career from the field and 39% from 3's. The record stems from his games played as much as anything. Just my opinion. No need to bash me Mr. Boston Celtic.
For his career Reggie MIller shot 47% from the field. Big difference actually.
Do you think Reggie is?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 10, 2011 9:20pm
I would put him and Reggie, 1a and 1b.
But whenever "best" is thrown around it's always an opinion.
But whenever "best" is thrown around it's always an opinion.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 10, 2011 9:22pm
I think we had this debate last year...some people think that he isn't "pure" because his shooting motion is a little different. I think he is about as pure as I have ever seen...and a quick release too.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 10, 2011 9:25pm
The thing that makes Ray such a great shooter is his footwork to get set for the shot. It doesn't matter where his hands are or where he catches the ball, he is ALWAYS on balance. It doesn't matter what your form looks like if you are on balance.
The coach at my high school had a phenomenal jumper(granted it was about as text book as you can get), but the only thing he taught us was to get your feet square.
The coach at my high school had a phenomenal jumper(granted it was about as text book as you can get), but the only thing he taught us was to get your feet square.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 10, 2011 9:26pm
Ray is textbook. I'll take Ray over Reggie.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Feb 10, 2011 9:29pm
Its maybe a wash. Ill give Allen a nod for winning a championship.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 10, 2011 9:34pm
Winning a championship doesn't make him a better shooter. Just means he was on a better team.
Way to take the easy way out though.... lol
Way to take the easy way out though.... lol
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 10, 2011 9:45pm
it said "in the game"....not "history of the game"
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 10, 2011 11:15pm
Ill take Reggie as a player over Ray any day, but coming from the biggest Pacer fan on the site, I think RayRay is the better "pure" shooter.
Allen won a title, but Reggie led his teams and went on deep playoff runs. Allen hasnt/wasnt able to do so as the guy.
As for shooting currently, I like Steph Curry as the next best to Jesus.
Allen won a title, but Reggie led his teams and went on deep playoff runs. Allen hasnt/wasnt able to do so as the guy.
As for shooting currently, I like Steph Curry as the next best to Jesus.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Feb 11, 2011 12:01am
Ray Allen-1073 games played.september63;673744 wrote:No. He is good though. 45% Career from the field and 39% from 3's. The record stems from his games played as much as anything. Just my opinion. No need to bash me Mr. Boston Celtic.
For his career Reggie MIller shot 47% from the field. Big difference actually.
Reggie Miller-1389 games played.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Feb 11, 2011 12:17am
OK. I still wanna say the guy hitting 47% from the field is better than the guy hitting 45%. I guess that was my point. All time 3 pt shots made is Ray Allen.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 11, 2011 12:19am
2% is nothing. That's like saying Steve Nash is a better FT shooter than Ray because his career % 90.3 and Ray's is 89.4.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Feb 11, 2011 12:26am
Much props to Ray. I'm not a Celtics fan, but I've always liked him as a player. When he's on, he's incredible to watch.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 11, 2011 12:26am
Heretic;673969 wrote:Much props to Ray. I'm not a Celtics fan, but I've always liked him as a player. When he's on, he's incredible to watch.
Same here.
I hate him because he's in Boston, but ONLY because he is in Boston.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Feb 11, 2011 2:31am
Ray is better. He has made more threes. He won a championship (you can say team success all you want, but fact is he was a large part of that team success). Not to mention, I would argue he is a much more clutch shooter than Reggie was. Yea Reggie had the 11 points in however many seconds against the Knicks or whatever, but Ray Allen has made a ton of clutch shots in his day. Also, saying he couldn't do it as the man isn't completely true...He did lead a Bucks team to the 7th game of the conference finals that many say officiating screwed them out of.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 11, 2011 5:56am
wildcats20;673962 wrote:2% is nothing. That's like saying Steve Nash is a better FT shooter than Ray because his career % 90.3 and Ray's is 89.4.
I think your math is a little off.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Feb 11, 2011 9:05am
Please, the obvious answer here is Glen Rice, his 3 point ability in NBA 97 and NBA 98 were off the charts!!!
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 11, 2011 9:09am
?2% is nothing. That's like saying Steve Nash is a better FT shooter than Ray because his career % 90.3 and Ray's is 89.4.
I think your math is a little off.
I took it from wiki. So yeah it may be wrong.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 11, 2011 11:37am
Please tell me you dont think Reggie is known as clutch because of 8 points in the final 8 seconds in MSG? Reggie led the Pacers to the conference finals a few times, and got screwed out of the finals when Larry Johnson somehow got an and 1 on a 3 pointer after another 4 dribbles and 2 steps lol. Reggie also took the Lakers and Shaq/Kobe to 6 games. Reggie was a much MUCH more complete player than he is ever given credit for.Y-Town Steelhound;674002 wrote:Ray is better. He has made more threes. He won a championship (you can say team success all you want, but fact is he was a large part of that team success). Not to mention, I would argue he is a much more clutch shooter than Reggie was. Yea Reggie had the 11 points in however many seconds against the Knicks or whatever, but Ray Allen has made a ton of clutch shots in his day. Also, saying he couldn't do it as the man isn't completely true...He did lead a Bucks team to the 7th game of the conference finals that many say officiating screwed them out of.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Feb 11, 2011 11:43am
I think he is saying your math is off because your comparison is only a .9% difference compared to a 2%.wildcats20;674084 wrote:?
I took it from wiki. So yeah it may be wrong.