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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Feb 15, 2011 5:44pm
House passed the Patriot Act extension today. 275-144.
http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2011/h/36
210 Republicans and 65 Democrats voted for it.
117 Democrats and 27 Republicans voted against it.
11 Democrats and 3 Republicans abstained.
Gross.
Now on to the Senate where it'll take a miracle for it to not pass. Damn it.
http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2011/h/36
210 Republicans and 65 Democrats voted for it.
117 Democrats and 27 Republicans voted against it.
11 Democrats and 3 Republicans abstained.
Gross.
Now on to the Senate where it'll take a miracle for it to not pass. Damn it.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 15, 2011 8:19pm
If there are alot, or even enough, moderate dems in the senate it won't pass.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Feb 15, 2011 8:19pm
Please just let it die.
I
I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Feb 15, 2011 8:22pm
Please explain.CenterBHSFan;679792 wrote:If there are alot, or even enough, moderate dems in the senate it won't pass.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 15, 2011 8:39pm
Cheezburger!I Wear Pants;679797 wrote:Please explain.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Feb 15, 2011 11:31pm
I was actually being serious there. I didn't know if you meant any extra connotation by the bolded part or not.
Another thing I'm wondering, not necessarily from you or from you only, but why isn't there the outrage that we see from conservatives with everything the Democrats do that they see as expanding the federal government with this bill? Same stuff, except the Republicans support it.
Another thing I'm wondering, not necessarily from you or from you only, but why isn't there the outrage that we see from conservatives with everything the Democrats do that they see as expanding the federal government with this bill? Same stuff, except the Republicans support it.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Feb 16, 2011 1:01am
I Wear Pants;680253 wrote:I was actually being serious there. I didn't know if you meant any extra connotation by the bolded part or not.
Another thing I'm wondering, not necessarily from you or from you only, but why isn't there the outrage that we see from conservatives with everything the Democrats do that they see as expanding the federal government with this bill? Same stuff, except the Republicans support it.
Don't you know that it is ok to give up some of your freedoms so we can be safe and protected?
/sarcasm
believer
Posts: 8,153
Feb 16, 2011 3:34am
You sound like Janet Napolitano.dwccrew;680320 wrote:Don't you know that it is ok to give up some of your freedoms so we can be safe and protected?
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 16, 2011 7:07am
Pants that was my little bit of sarcasm and distaste for the liberal dems shining through. I don't believe any of them have any common sense, so my statement was showing my hopefulness that there might be enough moderate dems (maybe not conservatives, but might have 3 brain cells left) somewhere in the senate to knock this down.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Feb 16, 2011 9:43am
Not an attempt to justify it, but I imagine it goes toward the usual "government expansion" being something that the average Joe can see and feel in his everyday life, (i.e. being forced to purchase health insurance) whereas the PA is largely invisible and has no real effect on Joe's day to day life.I Wear Pants;680253 wrote:I was actually being serious there. I didn't know if you meant any extra connotation by the bolded part or not.
Another thing I'm wondering, not necessarily from you or from you only, but why isn't there the outrage that we see from conservatives with everything the Democrats do that they see as expanding the federal government with this bill? Same stuff, except the Republicans support it.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Feb 16, 2011 10:33am
believer;680347 wrote:You sound like Janet Napolitano.
The sad part is, majority of Congress believes this to be true.
O-Trap
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Feb 16, 2011 11:05am
FOL
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Feb 16, 2011 12:09pm
dwccrew;680541 wrote:The sad part is, majority of Congress believes this to be true.
That's because they aren't the ones giving up the freedoms. If members of Congress and everyone else in the federal government had to be treated like the common American, as a potential terrorist, then you might see some changes.