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Tobias Fünke

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Feb 7, 2011 10:07 PM
How far do you drive to work? As America gets further into the 21st century we're going to see people want more and more to live within a walkable neighborhood of work and living. I would seriously consider moving closer to where you work.
Feb 7, 2011 10:07pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:17 PM
I'll do my best to let you in on some stuff my wife and I did when money was really tight for us for a year.

- Zero buying alcohol, cigars, unnecessary consumptions ... it REALLY sucks if you like such things, but you'd be amazed at what it cuts down on.

- Strategize about lunches at work. Literally crunch the numbers. Is a sandwich, carrot sticks, and a cup of Ranch cheaper than a packet of Ramen noodles or a box of off-brand mac 'n cheese? Can you go completely without lunch? I did the latter, and lost 35 lbs. in a year.

- If you drink pop, replace it with home-brewed coffee. Cheaper if you're not buying gourmet, and it will last you longer.

- Crunch numbers on EVERYTHING, and live accordingly. I don't care if your butt doesn't like the feel of the cheap toilet paper. If it's a more economical option, you suck it up and buy cheap.

- Anything with a semi-long shelf life, buy in BULK. Sam's Club was the best investment my wife and I made when I was laid off. Other places like Save-A-Lot will do as well.

- CUT the cable! You don't need it. Nobody does. It's nice, sure, but everyone can live without it. Try things like Hulu or ATDHE.

- Look for odd jobs. They blow, but they also pay.

- Think outside the box for other sources for income. It can be a lifesaver, and it doesn't always have to be a "job" in the literal sense. More people are finding ways to work from home than ever before.

- Nobody is above GoodWill, TJMaxx, Gabriel Bros., Plato's Closet, or even eBay for clothing if money is truly tight for an extended period of time.

- Dinners with the fiance ... make them cheap as often as possible. You're in a position that you are in charge of the healthy diet of a child, but you and your fiance might have to sacrifice in that area. My wife and I pretty much lived on pasta and vegetable soup for a year. They're cheap, and you can make a LOT at once.

- Get rid of the Prius. You can find economical cars out there for $6K-$8K that have low mileage. My wife just bought a 10-year-old Civic, but it only had 28,000 miles on it, and it gets 35 MPH highway. In the same week, my truck crapped out, and I bought a 10-year-old Impala with 36,000 miles on it for under $5K. It gets 28 MPG highway. Our combined monthly payment is $270.

- Cut your own hair. You're a guy. It's not too hard. If it is, find a friend or relative that will do it for you.

- Cheap Ivory soap does just as good a job as the usually-more-expensive body gels. Look for other bathroom things that could be cheaper.

- If you stumble across any significant extra money, put it toward debt. Don't have any? Savings.

- It's your fiance's birthday? Your anniversary? Valentine's Day? Find something to DO or MAKE for her. For our anniversary, I carved a dog out of Ivory soap for my wife. Cost me 1 bar of cheap soap, and I already had the Swiss Army knife.

- Water with meals.

- In the winter, keep the thermostat lower. Try 65 degrees. It will take about a week to get used to, but eventually, it will feel normal. At night, take it down to 50-55 degrees. We started doing this and our winter gas bill was 50% on a year over year.

- Also, in the winter, use the clear plastic insulation on every single window in the house. It's a pain in the ass to set up, but it works surprisingly well at helping trap the heat in. Probably also contributed to the 50% YOY gas bills.

- If you have neighbors with wireless Internet that can be detected in your house, offer to pay half their Internet costs to use it. Then, cut yours off. My wife and I do this. $10 a month for unlimited Internet.

- If you can, network with others around you who have certain talents. Offer yours in exchange for theirs. A good friend who lives a couple blocks away does work on automobiles in his spare time. He and his wife also do a lot with their computers. When I have car issues, I buy the parts and he fixes the car for no labor cost. When his computer has issues, I fix it at no labor cost.

- Short trip? Bicycle. Don't have one? Craigslist. It doesn't have to be pretty, but it should be cheap if money is tight.

- Coupons. The savings we get in coupons on a weekly average covers the cost of the paper dozens of times over.

- eCoupons. They're often free.

- Fiverr.com ... you'd be surprised what little things people will pay $5 for.

- If you have the stomach for it, cloth diapers. Gross, I know. Cheaper, though. This was a contribution from friends of ours who are 25 and 24 respectively, and who have three children under the age of three (one is adopted).

- Need furniture? Flea markets, garage sales, and ... yes ... trash picking (I don't personally do this, but my wife does, and I reap the benefits.). You'd be shocked what some people throw away. My wife and I spent a total of $60 on all the furniture in our living room, and you'd never know it.

- See if your fiance would pick up a waitress job on one or two days over the weekends. My brother has a wife in college, and she is a waitress at the Barn Restaurant on weekends.


There are lots of ways to earn outside of a normal job, and there are more ways to save than you'd believe. Both take some outside the box thinking, but both are doable. It just takes work.

Oh, and NEVER lose sight of your budget. Sit down with your fiance and crunch what you owe on a month-to-month basis, both static and variable costs. Crunch what you MAKE on a month-to-month basis, both static and variable incomes as applicable.

Good luck, man.
Feb 7, 2011 10:17pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:21 PM
Thanks Otrap..lots of good stuff there. I appreciate your time taken for that.
Feb 7, 2011 10:21pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:25 PM
Good list O-Trap.

But a question (not really to you but everyone), you said "Nobody is above GoodWill, TJMaxx, Gabriel Bros., Plato's Closet, or even eBay for clothing if money is truly tight for an extended period of time." I don't know about anyone else but me and many other people my age love shopping at GoodWill/thrift stores and places like TJMaxx and Marshalls. The deals are fantastic and you can find things that don't look like what everyone else has on.
Feb 7, 2011 10:25pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:26 PM
I Wear Pants;669415 wrote:Good list O-Trap.

But a question (not really to you but everyone), you said "Nobody is above GoodWill, TJMaxx, Gabriel Bros., Plato's Closet, or even eBay for clothing if money is truly tight for an extended period of time." I don't know about anyone else but me and many other people my age love shopping at GoodWill/thrift stores and places like TJMaxx and Marshalls. The deals are fantastic and you can find things that don't look like what everyone else has on.
Okay. I missed the question. ;)
Feb 7, 2011 10:26pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:32 PM
Not seeing the question there either but I'm not above it. I hit Ross alot as well, like a TJMaxx, and get tons of name brand items for bargain prices.
Feb 7, 2011 10:32pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:33 PM
rydawg5;669403 wrote:Thanks Otrap..lots of good stuff there. I appreciate your time taken for that.

Anytime, RyDawg. You know I got you.

Oh, also, no more sweatbands or Elmer's Glue for your hair:


I keed, I keed. ;)
Feb 7, 2011 10:33pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:38 PM
O-Trap;669417 wrote:Okay. I missed the question. ;)

I forgot to type "do people actually have a problem with those stores or feel ashamed for shopping their?" because I'm a ratard.
Feb 7, 2011 10:38pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:40 PM
I Wear Pants;669451 wrote:I forgot to type "do people actually have a problem with those stores or feel ashamed for shopping their?" because I'm a ratard.
Can I quote this?
Feb 7, 2011 10:40pm
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Feb 7, 2011 10:46 PM
I Wear Pants;669451 wrote:I forgot to type "do people actually have a problem with those stores or feel ashamed for shopping their?" because I'm a ratard.

I actually try to avoid shopping at GoodWill or the Salvation Army, not because I'm ashamed (some stuff is actually nice), but because I'd hate to think that I'm buying something someone else who can't afford to shop elsewhere could use.

If I can afford not to shop there, I try not to. I hate the thought that something I bought there would have made someone else very happy when I could afford to shop elsewhere and they might not.
Feb 7, 2011 10:46pm
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Feb 7, 2011 11:09 PM
O-Trap;669467 wrote:I actually try to avoid shopping at GoodWill or the Salvation Army, not because I'm ashamed (some stuff is actually nice), but because I'd hate to think that I'm buying something someone else who can't afford to shop elsewhere could use.

If I can afford not to shop there, I try not to. I hate the thought that something I bought there would have made someone else very happy when I could afford to shop elsewhere and they might not.
If only people who really needed to shopped at those places then they probably wouldn't be able to remain in business to make those people happy anyway.
CenterBHSFan;669455 wrote:Can I quote this?
Sure. But when you do make sure you change "their" to "there". :)
Feb 7, 2011 11:09pm
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Feb 7, 2011 11:13 PM
I Wear Pants;669508 wrote:If only people who really needed to shopped at those places then they probably wouldn't be able to remain in business to make those people happy anyway.

Possibly, I suppose.
Feb 7, 2011 11:13pm
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Feb 7, 2011 11:20 PM
O-Trap;669467 wrote:I actually try to avoid shopping at GoodWill or the Salvation Army, not because I'm ashamed (some stuff is actually nice), but because I'd hate to think that I'm buying something someone else who can't afford to shop elsewhere could use.

If I can afford not to shop there, I try not to. I hate the thought that something I bought there would have made someone else very happy when I could afford to shop elsewhere and they might not.
A lot of the same feelings here Otrap. I'm a 23 year old guy with a low paying job(s) and a lot of college debt and monthly bills, but I'm not a picky guy. If I find something I like at Walmart (I know, I know, evil empire), Kmart, Target etc. and I can afford it, I definately buy it there. It really sickens me to see some of my friends, both male and female around my age who claim to "never" have any money, with maxed out credit cards etc but yet EVERYTHING they wear has to be from American Eagle, Hollister, Abercrombie, Pac-Sun etc. I'm a redneck lol, I don't need a $50+ dollar pair of jeans, or a 25-30 dollar tshirt to work on my vehicles, or to wear around the house. But I avoid going to Goodwill and the like for the same reason. I'm pretty tight on disposable income, but I have a job that allows me to make decent money if I'm motivated, but picking up shifts, so if I want/need something I'll save up what I need to buy it. I don't want to go to Goodwill because there are a lot of people who aren't as fortunate as I am to have a job like that, or heck, to have a job at all right now, and I feel like I'm taking something away from them by buying it if I can afford something from one of the above mentioned places.

I love being able to buy nice clothes...when I can afford it. As a matter of fact, I was able to set aside about 200 from my tax return this year in order to let myself go buy some new clothes that normally I don't spring for. That's perfectly ok, and I keep those clothes aside for when my old beat up pair of wrangler from walmart, or a generic tshirt won't do i.e. going out with my girlfriend, family functions etc. But for everday clothes, there's no reason that decent looking outfit that costs 20-25 bucks from walmart won't do, instead of wearing 150 dollars worth of stuff from PacSun.

And as to the OP, I respect you for wanting to cut back for the right reasons. Your child may not understand it now, but keep your priorities in order and one day you will be rewarded for your sacrifices. As to what others have offered as advice for you, cancelling any unnecessary services is a great start. A few years ago I was in a similar situation (minus having children to care for) where I really needed to cut back for important reasons. I started by cancelling my verizon account. I went out and bought a prepaid virgin mobile phone and saved 40 dollars a month just for my cell phone bill, all the while using the same network (Virgin is verizon's prepaid cell plan). I now have sprint, but when I could not afford it, I did what I could to save money while still having a working phone people could contact me at. Also, vending machines and drinks at convenience stores are a huge one. I had a horrible habit of always buying something to drink when I would stop and get gas. I would always want "something for the ride". I saved about $20 a month by doing that, which with my car (or a prius like yours) gets you quite a bit of gas! Lastly, cancel ALL subscriptions to stuff you don't absolutely need. My big one was field and stream magazine. My subscription costed me like 12 bucks a month, and I found myself never reading any of them and basically just throwing that money in the trash every month. I signed up for it when I was like 18, because I had a decent job and no bills, and I had time to read it. Now when I have the urge to read one, I'll just borrow one from someone, or I'll pick one up (maybe once or twice a year) from the store. The store copies are more expensive, but $15 bucks a year beats $144. And lastly, as has been mentioned before, if you smoke or drink, give it up. It was INSANELY hard for me to quit smoking, but I did, and the reason I did was because that extra $60 per month pays one of my student loan bills every month. It's like killing 3 birds with 1 stone. No spending $ I could use on something extra, using that money to pay a bill, and not killing myself slowly lol.

If you can change your mindset a little, it's actually quite simple to do. You just have to figure out where you have the biggest opportunity to cut some costs, and stick to it. I'm actually just as happy as I was before, and found a way to save myself over $150 a month when I sat down and figured it all out.
Feb 7, 2011 11:20pm
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Feb 7, 2011 11:27 PM
One of the things that I do is buy in bulk. I also buy alot during the spring, summer, fall alot of produce from local farmers markets and such and freeze. Saves alot on food costs during the winter months.
Feb 7, 2011 11:27pm
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Feb 7, 2011 11:42 PM
Red_Skin_Pride;669523 wrote: I'm a redneck
Nothing wrong with that!
Feb 7, 2011 11:42pm
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Feb 8, 2011 12:06 AM
And seriously, Fiverr.com. It's ridiculous what people will pay $5 for someone to do.
Feb 8, 2011 12:06am
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Feb 8, 2011 12:15 AM
if you're not scared of needles and live near a plasma center you can make 65 bucks a week selling plasma.
Feb 8, 2011 12:15am
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Feb 8, 2011 12:23 AM
LunchBox;669570 wrote:if you're not scared of needles and live near a plasma center you can make 65 bucks a week selling plasma.

thats what some people I know here in Akron do to buy their weed. LOL
Feb 8, 2011 12:23am
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Feb 8, 2011 6:22 AM
My wife shops from Coldwater Creek to Goodwill and Resale Shops..... if it a store and it selling something and she can pick up a good deal ... that all that matters

Years ago when the kids where little and money was tight my wife would buy their cloths at garages sales .... keep them nice and resell them at our garage sale
Feb 8, 2011 6:22am
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Feb 8, 2011 6:49 AM
Congrats on your 2nd baby...how old is he? And I'm sorry that your daughter is so far from you now as I can imagine it's very hard on you. But as others have said, kudos on making the effort to see her and be there for her. If your ex and you split the time with her 50/50 it doesn't make sense to me that you'd pay that much in child support. Perhaps if you had her only on weekends, every other weekend, etc. But 2 weeks on and 2 off is very even so such a large amount doesn't seem right. I have no kids so I am far from an expert on these things but that's just my take.

As far as saving...does your fiance tan, get her hair or nails done, etc? If she does I would say those are some areas to save. I hate being pale but when I didn't have the $ my tanning package was the first to go. If she gets her hair colored she can either try to do it herself or wait longer between appointments (go from every 6 weeks to every 8 or 10). If she doesn't do color but just cuts try going somewhere cheaper. I know how it is to go from having an amazing hair person to going to Great Clips but for a trim it doesn't really matter...hardly any stylist can mess up a trim. If either of you have gym memberships cancel them and work out at home (run, walk, download some work out videos).

There have been some other great suggestions on here as well. Eating at home is definitely a big one...wildcats and I spend a ton going out to watch games or just because we're too lazy to cook. We need to do better for sure. Buy generic brands when you can, clip coupons (or find them online) and definitely stock up when there is a good deal on something. I watched a girl get 2 carts worth of groceries for under $2 once...I don't have the patience to go that crazy with coupons but you can really save if you do. If you have a pet consider asking a friend or family member to take it until you're in a better position to take care of it. Or try finding cheaper food for it.

Good luck with everything...hope some of these are helpful :)
Feb 8, 2011 6:49am
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Feb 8, 2011 7:55 AM
Also, since spring will be here soon, hit up yard sales for clothes. You can get name brand clothing very cheap, and kids clothing is very easy to find. My brother and his wife are pretty well off, but yardsaling is one of the reasons they are. My bro has an entire closet of name brand clothing that probably didn't cost them over $100 for everything.
Feb 8, 2011 7:55am
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Feb 8, 2011 8:37 AM
Aldi is a great place for groceries. The quality is not bad either. There are some things I actually like the Aldi brand better then name brand. We save at least $100 over going to Kroger or even WalMart.
Feb 8, 2011 8:37am
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Feb 8, 2011 8:44 AM
What state is your child support order issued from and how long has it been in place? You can PM this info if you don't want to divulge it in this forum.
Feb 8, 2011 8:44am
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Feb 8, 2011 9:15 AM
Also, subscribe to sites like livingsocial and Groupon. Every now and again you can find some good deals on there.
Feb 8, 2011 9:15am