Cincinnati Reds preseason talk

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justincredible
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Feb 1, 2011 9:07pm
karen lotz;661207 wrote:It is a lot of fun playing against a team full of douches that take it too seriously and beating them.

Yeah, that's true.
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Ironman92
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Feb 1, 2011 9:15pm
I would like to see visible evidence during the season that the Reds are doing what they need to at the plate to give them a chance to win in the playoffs.
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DeyDurkie5
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Feb 1, 2011 9:53pm
SportsAndLady;661175 wrote:New Orleans with 500 OU students=fun
Softball leagues with beer=not fun


you are crazy, softball leagues are fun
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Rotinaj
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Feb 2, 2011 8:26am
karen lotz;661207 wrote:It is a lot of fun playing against a team full of douches that take it too seriously and beating them.

+1
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swamisez
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Feb 2, 2011 11:57am
It will be fun prognosticating Dinglebaker's lineup. I'll give him a week to prove himself :)

(Normal lineup)
CF Stubbs
SS Renteria/Janish
1B Votto
3B Rolen
RF Bruce
2B Phillips
LF Gomes
C Hernandez

(Dusty wants speed at the top order)
LF Lewis
2B Phillips
1B Votto
3B Rolen
RF Bruce
SS Renteria
C Hanigan
CF Stubbs

(Bruce in a slump lineup)
Stubbs CF
Bruce RF
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Phillips 2B
Renteria SS
Gomes LF
Hernandez C

(Votto in a slump lineup)
Yeah Right
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justincredible
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Feb 2, 2011 11:59am
I'd go with this lineup:

Stubbs
Stubbs
Votto
Bruce
Rolen
Votto
Phillips
Pitcher
Votto
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sherm03
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Feb 2, 2011 12:08pm
Justin,
What season ticket package did you go with? I was thinking about dropping the coin for one of the packages with tax return money. But then I found out that I got fucked over again and actually have to pay again this year...so that went out the window.
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jordo212000
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Feb 2, 2011 12:09pm
I'd lean towards:

Stubbs
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Gomes/Heisey/Lewis
Catcher
Janish/Renteria
Pitcher
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zach24oz
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Feb 2, 2011 12:11pm
The 2 different lineups I could see are:

Stubbs
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Gomes
Janish/Renteria
Hernandez/Hanigan

2nd Lineup

Phillips
Janish/Renteria
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Stubbs
Lewis
Hernandez/Hanigan
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justincredible
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Feb 2, 2011 12:16pm
sherm03;662049 wrote:Justin,
What season ticket package did you go with? I was thinking about dropping the coin for one of the packages with tax return money. But then I found out that I got fucked over again and actually have to pay again this year...so that went out the window.

We just did two seats in the bleachers on a 20 game package. I was going to do a 1 seat full season package in the bleachers but I talked myself out of it.
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jordo212000
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Feb 2, 2011 12:19pm
justincredible;662073 wrote:We just did two seats in the bleachers on a 20 game package. I was going to do a 1 seat full season package in the bleachers but I talked myself out of it.

Man if I just lived within a halfway decent driving distance... Living close to Athens is just too far of a haul. I went to two games out at Great American Ballpark this season (+ 1 Reds game at the Jake). If I lived closer, I would definitely have some sort of season ticket package.
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SportsAndLady
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Feb 2, 2011 12:34pm
I don't care what my salary is, if I ever have a job in Cincinnati I am getting season tickets haha
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justincredible
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Feb 2, 2011 1:16pm
I live less than 5 miles away. It is indeed awesome to just decide last minute to drive down and go to a game.
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swamisez
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Feb 2, 2011 2:15pm
I live in NC and made it to three games last year.
Strangely however, I got just about every game on my local fox sports affiliate. FSN Tennessee. I hope that continues again this year.
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mhs95_06
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Feb 2, 2011 4:45pm
jordo212000;662052 wrote:I'd lean towards:

Stubbs
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Gomes/Heisey/Lewis
Catcher
Janish/Renteria
Pitcher

I think this is about right. A key may be what line-up Dusty starts on the many occasions when Rolen doesn't start.
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Terry_Tate
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Feb 2, 2011 5:19pm
justincredible;662160 wrote:I live less than 5 miles away. It is indeed awesome to just decide last minute to drive down and go to a game.

This is so true. I went to around 15 games last year and am looking to do at least 20 this year. It takes me around 10 minutes to get downtown and parked and I come right past downtown after work during the week so going to games is pretty easy for me. It also helps when your company has season tickets and the boss just hands you tickets when he can't go. :)
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dave
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Feb 2, 2011 6:56pm
opening day lineup

Lewis
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Stubbs
Hanigan
Janish
Arroyo

Who knows what will happen with C and SS, I'm assuming Hernandez and Renteria will play with Cueto and Volquez. Against lefties I think Stubbs moves to leadoff and Gomes bats 5th ahead of Bruce.
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TODD_PACKER
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Feb 5, 2011 12:26pm
I'd be surprised if Gomes has another good year meaning addressing another offensive need around mid-season. Hope not though.
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jordo212000
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Feb 5, 2011 3:30pm
TODD_PACKER;665506 wrote:I'd be surprised if Gomes has another good year meaning addressing another offensive need around mid-season. Hope not though.

Gomes was very solid last year. I imagine his ABs will probably be down a decent amount (Lewis and Heisey will get some PT) but I expect Gomes to continue to be the main guy out there. I think a lot of people are thinking that it is still 2001 when LFs hit .280-.290 with 45+ HRs. Those days are over (cough cough steroids and greenies). Banned stuff aside, the amount of good outfielders in the game has really dropped off. Seems like most of the leagues talent resides in infield positions.
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Ironman92
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Feb 5, 2011 3:48pm
As long as there are many bad pitchers who miss over the middle of the plate......Gomes and many other Reds will be fine.
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dave
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Feb 7, 2011 7:19pm
OPS last year by guys who played a decent amount in LF and are on teams Reds are in competition with.

Carlos Gonzalez .974
Matt Holliday .922
Pat Burrell .872
Ryan Braun .866
Alfonso Soriano .818
Eric Hinske .793
Raul Ibanez .793
Jonny Gomes .758
Carlos Lee .708

Gomes was not very solid. He was a good value for his contract, but they need more out of him or his replacement.
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jordo212000
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Feb 7, 2011 8:14pm
dave;669038 wrote:OPS last year by guys who played a decent amount in LF and are on teams Reds are in competition with.

Carlos Gonzalez .974
Matt Holliday .922
Pat Burrell .872
Ryan Braun .866
Alfonso Soriano .818
Eric Hinske .793
Raul Ibanez .793
Jonny Gomes .758
Carlos Lee .708

Gomes was not very solid. He was a good value for his contract, but they need more out of him or his replacement.

Maybe we should trade for Holliday, Ryan Braun, or Carlos Gonzalez? haha c'mon man. You posted the OPS for a few of the elite OFs in the game. Of course Gomes' numbers aren't going to be close to Matt Holliday's. You hit the nail on the head, for what they pay him, Gomes is pretty solid. Good guy to have in the clubhouse too.
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dave
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Feb 7, 2011 8:47pm
LF and 1B are the power positions in the NL, all I posted was the stats for left fielders for good NL teams. If the Reds want to pay Arroyo then they need better production from Gomes or whoever is out there. They can't expect the same production and health from Votto, Rolen, and Stubbs. Not bashing Gomes, I love the guy. Just don't think he's more than a platoon player who should rarely face RHP. Unfortunately he's pretty much a waste as a bench player since he can't play D and will probably strike out as a PH. He's a good DH though for interleague.
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Ironman92
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Feb 7, 2011 9:13pm
Reds had the high OPS LF guy...didn't work
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ts1227
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Mar 26, 2011 5:48pm
Arroyo has mono, but plans to pitch through it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2011/news/story?id=6260915