This Generation's "Berlin Wall" Moment Happening in Egypt

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CoachB63
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Feb 3, 2011 5:24pm
We the US are spending Gazzilions and Gazzilions of money we don't have, and it is causing the price of food in the rest of the world
to go sky high, what started as protests of around 100,000 people (of a country of 80 Million) do the math, small percentage, anyway
our Glorious and supreme leader couldn't stay out of it and now the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists have hijacked the movement and
the world media couldn't resist jumping in and now we will have another country run by terrorists and the people will be even worse
off than before and yet another country will be on the destroy Isrial band waggon,
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dwccrew
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Feb 4, 2011 2:11am
hilliardfan;661698 wrote:Potentially, this could be a "Overthrow of the Shah of Iran" moment. That hasn't turned out so well for the US. With Mubarak gone, the potential for a more conservative (fundamental/radical) Islamic government is real. Bad for US and especially bad for Israel.
It could potentially be bad for the US. When the Shah (Us supported leader) was overthrown, it was bad for the US. When Saddam Hussein was overthrown (former US supported leader that was overthrown by us) it ended up destabilizing the nation and was bad (could eventually be good, but I have doubts). Now Mubarak, a US supported leader is on his way of being booted. However, I see this differently. It doesn't seem like the people want a religious fundamentalist government taking over (like Iran). It seems as if they truly want a democracy. Also, I feel like we have less of a presence and influence over Egypt.

I think the best option is to support the democratic process and if a new leader is established, engage in diplomatic processes of developing a mutually beneficial relationship with that leader.
CoachB63;663683 wrote:We the US are spending Gazzilions and Gazzilions of money we don't have, and it is causing the price of food in the rest of the world
to go sky high, what started as protests of around 100,000 people (of a country of 80 Million) do the math, small percentage, anyway
our Glorious and supreme leader couldn't stay out of it and now the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists have hijacked the movement and
the world media couldn't resist jumping in and now we will have another country run by terrorists and the people will be even worse
off than before and yet another country will be on the destroy Isrial band waggon,

Get the fuck out of here with this garbage. People may take you more seriously if your run-on sentence wasn't riddled with grammatical errors and spelling errors. Isrial or Israel?
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bases_loaded
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Feb 4, 2011 8:06am
The Equalizer;661701 wrote:If muslim brotherhood have anything to do with the new gov't we're in trouble.

Its them and the US behind this. The rise of Islamic democracy in the middle east. Barack Hussein Obama, George Doris, and Hillary Clinton are making sure we lose one of our bigger allies there.
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september63
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Feb 4, 2011 10:32am
Lotz.................take that video and post it in the politics forum under this same topic. A poster suggested this morning these reporters were all fabricating stories of being attacked to simply boost their ratings.
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karen lotz
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Feb 4, 2011 10:39am
Nah, have at it. I don't venture over to the politics forum.
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karen lotz
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Feb 4, 2011 10:41am
Cooper was also attacked a second time while the van he was in surrounded by protesters. He said a rock was thrown through the window of the van.
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Feb 4, 2011 8:44pm
september63;664580 wrote:Lotz.................take that video and post it in the politics forum under this same topic. A poster suggested this morning these reporters were all fabricating stories of being attacked to simply boost their ratings.
I believe you are referring to my post. First off, I didn't say they were fabricating stories. Check your reading comprehension. I said I believe they are grossly exaggerating. Also, I didn't say every single one of them, I said I believe some are exaggerating and the one in particular is the one who claims he was threatened of being beheaded.

This video doesn't prove that much. You can't see them being hit (I am not saying Cooper wasn't hit, but he didn't look bruised up). Yes, things are being thrown at them and they are being shouted at, but what did this video really prove or show? It showed them running through a crowd off camera and talking off camera. Sorry, I don't buy into American media bullshit. They are sensationlists that care more about ratings than actual news reporting.

Finally, my post was directed towards a poster that had linked an article about the reporter who said he was threated of being beheaded and blamed it on Islamic radicals, when no where in the article he provided was Islam even mentioned or any remarks made by attackers attributed to Islam.
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Feb 4, 2011 9:07pm
did you guys see the video of the US Embassy van plow over a group of protestors? The US is claiming there were vans stolen, though.
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Feb 4, 2011 10:28pm
Stole this from an lsu forum





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Feb 4, 2011 10:29pm




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Feb 4, 2011 10:30pm
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Feb 5, 2011 1:04am
karen lotz;664589 wrote:Nah, have at it. I don't venture over to the politics forum.

Neither do I, which is why I started a topic here.

As far as the attacks on reports go, it's obviously going on, but there may be some exaggeration. The worst thing I saw the other day was that the lead on one of the cable networks was "Why are US reporters being targeted for attacks?" I think that it's fine to talk about it, but the reports being attacked should not be the lead. We shouldn't try and make what is happening in Egypt about us.

As far as these attacks go, the only person to blame is Mubarak. Had he stepped down instead of announcing that he wouldn't seek another reelection none of this would be going on. The violence really only started after his supporters began coming out after he made his announcement.
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Feb 5, 2011 12:35pm
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Feb 11, 2011 11:53am
Mubarak has officially stepped down and has handed over power to the military.

It's amazing that something that started with young people using Facebook and Twitter who were willing to reach across religious, political, and gender lines has overthrown a world leader.