darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 3, 2009 12:36pm
Everyone seems to be dismissing the Notre Dame job... everyone I saw on their potential candidates list on ESPN the other night(Fitzgerald, Kelly, Harbaugh, and Ferentz and Stoops) doesn't want it... hmm.... interesting predicament don't you think?
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rock_knutne
Dec 3, 2009 12:40pm
You must be an ESPN insider.:s
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Soda Popinski
Posts: 367
Dec 3, 2009 12:43pm
In b4 NCF and ccrunner bitch or bash ND
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 3, 2009 12:43pm
Not really. Most of these coaches if not all are making plans for bowl games or have other things on their agenda that might be more important then letting the media know what their plans are.
I am leaning toward the new coach has already made his decision and those involved have set a date for when they will make this important to some announcement.
I am leaning toward the new coach has already made his decision and those involved have set a date for when they will make this important to some announcement.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Dec 3, 2009 12:47pm
This.newarkcatholicfan wrote: Not really. Most of these coaches if not all are making plans for bowl games or have other things on their agenda that might be more important then letting the media know what their plans are.
I am leaning toward the new coach has already made his decision and those involved have set a date for when they will make this important to some announcement.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 3, 2009 12:51pm
Yeah, I get a distinctly different feeling this time versus the last time. You never know what to believe, but my gut tells me one truth was when the ND guy said that the list isn't as extensive as has been reported. No developments, announcements, or otherwise have convinced me that the target was ever anyone other than Stoops and I still believe he's likely to be the guy.newarkcatholicfan wrote: Not really. Most of these coaches if not all are making plans for bowl games or have other things on their agenda that might be more important then letting the media know what their plans are.
I am leaning toward the new coach has already made his decision and those involved have set a date for when they will make this important to some announcement.
I don't know if last time it was ND pushing the names that fed the perception that they had it in the bag, then got burned, but this time it seems like they've taken a completely different approach and have no intentions of showing their hand until its locked up.
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rock_knutne
Dec 3, 2009 12:55pm
The other thing that IMO is having a big effect on the ND search is five years ago, there were several big time jobs open, not the case now as ND is the only big time job open. I think ND doesn't have to be as expansive on a search this time.........timing is everything.enigmaax wrote:Yeah, I get a distinctly different feeling this time versus the last time. You never know what to believe, but my gut tells me one truth was when the ND guy said that the list isn't as extensive as has been reported. No developments, announcements, or otherwise have convinced me that the target was ever anyone other than Stoops and I still believe he's likely to be the guy.
I don't know if last time it was ND pushing the names that fed the perception that they had it in the bag, then got burned, but this time it seems like they've taken a completely different approach and have no intentions of showing their hand until its locked up.
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Dec 3, 2009 1:05pm
and ironically, notre dame isnt interested in harbaugh, fitzgerald, or ferentz...darbypitcher22 wrote: Everyone seems to be dismissing the Notre Dame job... everyone I saw on their potential candidates list on ESPN the other night(Fitzgerald, Kelly, Harbaugh, and Ferentz and Stoops) doesn't want it... hmm.... interesting predicament don't you think?
amazing how that works.
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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Dec 3, 2009 1:15pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4707485
I find it interesting that Notre Dame would consult with a search firm if it is done deal with Stoops?
I am interested in the rationalizations of this event.
I find it interesting that Notre Dame would consult with a search firm if it is done deal with Stoops?
I am interested in the rationalizations of this event.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 3, 2009 1:23pm
That is funny. The goofy thing is that the next time ND is looking for a coach, all those guys will be mentioned as having "turned ND down" previously.rocket31 wrote: and ironically, notre dame isnt interested in harbaugh, fitzgerald, or ferentz...
amazing how that works.
I'm on record as saying the ND job isn't as great as it used to be (and I still believe that), but it is absolutely meaningless that every jack smack in the country is turning down a non-existent offer.
True.rock_knutne wrote: The other thing that IMO is having a big effect on the ND search is five years ago, there were several big time jobs open, not the case now as ND is the only big time job open. I think ND doesn't have to be as expansive on a search this time.........timing is everything.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 3, 2009 1:25pm
If I were guessing, it goes back to that whole "feeler" principle (someone mentioned this on another thread). As far as we know, ND doesn't have permission to speak with Stoops, but if "his people" and "their people" get together it's okay.BCSbunk wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4707485
I find it interesting that Notre Dame would consult with a search firm if it is done deal with Stoops?
I am interested in the rationalizations of this event.
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rock_knutne
Dec 3, 2009 1:26pm
Hmmmmm, let's see, maybe that search firm does more than just search for candidates?BCSbunk wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4707485
I find it interesting that Notre Dame would consult with a search firm if it is done deal with Stoops?
I am interested in the rationalizations of this event.
I'm sure this firm is conducting extensive background checks and verifying all different kinds of information that goes in to something like this. I'm sure Jack Swarbrick remembers the whole George O'Leary fiasco.Also, Swarbrick says himself that there's not as many candidates for job as is being reported, which leads me to believe that the firm they hired is doing a hell of alot more than searching.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 3, 2009 1:38pm
This is just like last time. And its just like any big job that opens up. The team fans and media think ALL the BIG names want to come in. When in reality, thats not the case. ND will get a fine coach probably, maybe even a big name possibly. But to think all these big time coaches want to come, is ridiculous and not realistic. Its not the job that many want to believe anymore. It happened at OSU when Tress was hired. All these big names floating around. None of it was happening. Most of it is media driven.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 3, 2009 2:41pm
Let's wait till the season is over to see how these guys really feel about the ND job.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 3, 2009 3:39pm
darby--can you post a link where Stoops states he doesn't want the job? I'm just curious,'cause I haven't heard this
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Preacher
Posts: 218
Dec 3, 2009 7:49pm
Kelly will be the next coach.
goosebumps
Posts: 1,058
Dec 3, 2009 8:38pm
I'm sure there are several coaches who want it, We'll see in due time.
I don't think Kelly will be there, maybe Holtz or Harbaugh.
I don't think Kelly will be there, maybe Holtz or Harbaugh.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 3, 2009 8:42pm
I can see Holtz getting a shot maybe his name will get him there but it will be his ability to coach that keeps him there.
I do not see him getting enough time to correct the problems before he is let go once again putting Notre Dame back where they are now.
I think they will go in a different direction then many want and think.
I do not have a prediction on who they get but I do believe some will say WTF.
I do not see him getting enough time to correct the problems before he is let go once again putting Notre Dame back where they are now.
I think they will go in a different direction then many want and think.
I do not have a prediction on who they get but I do believe some will say WTF.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Dec 3, 2009 8:43pm
This is kind of similar to what happen after Tyrone Willingham got fired. People Forget that Weis was probably like the 5th or 6th option for the Notre Dame Job. But I agree with the others on here. Let’s wait until the season is over to see which one of these coaching candidates are true to their words.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Dec 3, 2009 9:27pm
In other news, the Domers get 4 star DT Louis Nix from Jacksonville, FL
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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Dec 3, 2009 10:03pm
Maybe, but ESPN before the Oregon/OSU game stated that Notre Dame hired a consulting firm to search for a coach.rock_knutne wrote:Hmmmmm, let's see, maybe that search firm does more than just search for candidates?BCSbunk wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4707485
I find it interesting that Notre Dame would consult with a search firm if it is done deal with Stoops?
I am interested in the rationalizations of this event.
Also, Swarbrick says himself that there's not as many candidates for job as is being reported, which leads me to believe that the firm they hired is doing a hell of alot more than searching.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 3, 2009 10:07pm
Holtz really makes it hard on the Notre Dame fans with his blind stupidity when it comes to this team.
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eldduhjjkcuf
Posts: 88
Dec 3, 2009 10:26pm
LOLccrunner609 wrote: Lou Holtszszszszszz is probably the worst sports broadcaster to ever be on stage at ESPN.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Dec 3, 2009 10:27pm
Ain't that the truth.newarkcatholicfan wrote: Holtz really makes it hard on the Notre Dame fans with his blind stupidity when it comes to this team.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 3, 2009 10:49pm
I believe you said that first so credit goes to you.
On the other hand Lou still knows his stuff when it comes to most other teams and players.
I wonder if anyone at ESPN has brought this to his attention?
He really does add to the show if he does not speak about "his team'.
On the other hand Lou still knows his stuff when it comes to most other teams and players.
I wonder if anyone at ESPN has brought this to his attention?
He really does add to the show if he does not speak about "his team'.