
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Feb 22, 2011 11:45am
Duggan going in before Randy Savage, Jake Roberts, Owen Hart, Rick Rude, LOD is horribly ridiculous. Duggan was the equivalent of Hillbilly Jim or Brutus Beefcake in the 80s. A midcard jobber who usually was there to give the next good heel a stepping stone. That is not HOF worthy.

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Feb 22, 2011 2:11pm
I understand what you are saying...but Duggan was a huge fan favorite. He was extremely popular. He was the first winner of the Royal Rumble. He also never won a belt in the WWE/WWF, only won in the WCW. He's being inducted by Ted DiBiase...who also never won a belt. Two extremely popular characters that never won a belt...it's amazing they haven't BUT "The Miz" has one?!
I do think Randy Savage, Jake Roberts, and Legion of Doom should be in. I am also surprised that HBK is already being inducted -- but he deserves to be in, just surprised it's so soon.
I do think Randy Savage, Jake Roberts, and Legion of Doom should be in. I am also surprised that HBK is already being inducted -- but he deserves to be in, just surprised it's so soon.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Feb 22, 2011 2:37pm
Rumor has it Road Warriors will be going in this year.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Feb 22, 2011 2:45pm
OSH;687334 wrote:I understand what you are saying...but Duggan was a huge fan favorite. He was extremely popular. He was the first winner of the Royal Rumble. He also never won a belt in the WWE/WWF, only won in the WCW. He's being inducted by Ted DiBiase...who also never won a belt. Two extremely popular characters that never won a belt...it's amazing they haven't BUT "The Miz" has one?!
I do think Randy Savage, Jake Roberts, and Legion of Doom should be in. I am also surprised that HBK is already being inducted -- but he deserves to be in, just surprised it's so soon.
Yeah. And that's what the HoF is, in essence. A chance to recognize popular dudes who are currently on good terms with Vince McMahon.
The reason he and DiBiase (who came up with Duggan during the territory days...at least they both were in Bill Watts' UWF before it was swallowed by WCW when it came to prominence...or the NWA before it became WCW...never did quite follow how all of that went down) never had WWF/E belts had to do more with Hogan's politics more than anything. Particularly with DiBiase, as I think he was supposed to win, but Hogan had the WM4 tournament go to Savage (with him, of course, saving the day).
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Feb 22, 2011 4:31pm
Heretic;687360 wrote:Yeah. And that's what the HoF is, in essence. A chance to recognize popular dudes who are currently on good terms with Vince McMahon.
The good terms part is probably the most important thing. Everything I've ever seen has said Randy Savage wants nothing to do with it. But, since he has finally done the legends deal maybe that will change in the next few years. Jake Roberts...can't really take a chance on making a big to-do around that guy at the moment. He might show up at the ceremony. And if he happens to, he will most definitely be drunk.
I haven't even realized the LOD wasn't in yet. That is a no brainer, one would think.
I mixed on guys like Duggan. Sure there's no titles, which means there are some guys who "achieved" more. But he does serve a big reminder of the difference between then and now. He could draw money and didn't need a title. He was over and he could put guys over without losing his appeal. He had a simple formula and character, but he made it pay off. So many of today's characters are just dull and the stories are just so contrived. Everybody has been a world champion, so there's really no value in secondary titles anymore. There is nothing really unique about anyone. So in that regard, Duggan deserves it more than nearly anyone on the current roster will in 20 years.

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Feb 22, 2011 6:19pm
Wrestlers from the Duggan era were a different bread than the kids breaking into wrestling today. Honestly all the young wrestlers look exactly the same to me. They are all 6'5, tanned (ok, not Sheamus), have a tribal or shoulder tat, are extremely athletic but have the charisma of a wet paper bag. Guys like Duggan, Dusty Rhodes, Jerry Lawler, Roddy Piper, Jake Roberts, Ted DiBiase Ric Flair, Arn Anderson and many others would not get pushed today because they do not fit that cookie-cutter image. Even in their own era they were not the biggest or the most athletic guys, but they had that little something extra that captivated the fans. I think wrestling promotions put more emphasis on the guys that had the whole package as opposed to the guy who fits the look.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Feb 23, 2011 1:05am
GoChiefs;687351 wrote:Rumor has it Road Warriors will be going in this year.
I am going to start deleting you from Facebook when I have to work and recording Raw on DVR. Haha.
Yeah, I heard them and Sunny and a few more names I am drawing a blank about but those seem to be the top names so far. Savage is going to get in there probably next year. He and McMahon are on good terms now so he will be in there. Ultimate Warrior too. Duggan may not have won titles but he was well-known and active for a long time. Those two ingredients bring fame....
One other name that should be in there...Bruno Sammartino.

lets_go_devils
Posts: 434
Feb 23, 2011 1:16am
sportswizuhrd;688140 wrote:I am going to start deleting you from Facebook when I have to work and recording Raw on DVR. Haha.
Yeah, I heard them and Sunny and a few more names I am drawing a blank about but those seem to be the top names so far. Savage is going to get in there probably next year. He and McMahon are on good terms now so he will be in there. Ultimate Warrior too. Duggan may not have won titles but he was well-known and active for a long time. Those two ingredients bring fame....
One other name that should be in there...Bruno Sammartino.
Bruno has been asked and refuses every time. He HATES what Vince turned the business into.
As for warrior, he was asked as well, but wanted a shit-ton of money to be involved and appear.....what a douche

lets_go_devils
Posts: 434
Feb 23, 2011 1:30am
Other names I think NEED to be inducted:
1. Ravishing Rick Rude
2. Bam Bam Bigelow
3. Lord Alfred Hayes (I don't believe he's in yet)
4. Owen (I wish his wife would die already...she's fuckin it up for everyone)
5. Rick Martel
6. The Rougeau Brothers (The Mountie)
7. Big Boss Man
1. Ravishing Rick Rude
2. Bam Bam Bigelow
3. Lord Alfred Hayes (I don't believe he's in yet)
4. Owen (I wish his wife would die already...she's fuckin it up for everyone)
5. Rick Martel
6. The Rougeau Brothers (The Mountie)
7. Big Boss Man

The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Feb 23, 2011 4:44am
Demoltion too, they won the tag belts I think 4-5 times. British Bulldog(s) as well.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Feb 24, 2011 4:27am
Wrestling Observer says HOF class will be:
(not in any order after Duggan)
HBK-Triple H
Duggan-DiBiase
Sunny-??
Abdullah The Butcher-Terry Funk(some might wonder why, but I guess he's big in Atlanta, owns a restaurant and wrestled in WCW. Very hardcore in his day and you will notice when you see his forehead.
Road Warriors-Dusty Rhodes
Bullet Bob Armstrong-Sons(Roaddog and the son that is a ref in WWE)
(not in any order after Duggan)
HBK-Triple H
Duggan-DiBiase
Sunny-??
Abdullah The Butcher-Terry Funk(some might wonder why, but I guess he's big in Atlanta, owns a restaurant and wrestled in WCW. Very hardcore in his day and you will notice when you see his forehead.
Road Warriors-Dusty Rhodes
Bullet Bob Armstrong-Sons(Roaddog and the son that is a ref in WWE)

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Feb 24, 2011 7:59am
so DX will be in?
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Feb 24, 2011 9:42am
darbypitcher22;689722 wrote:so DX will be in?
I think the HBK-Triple H refers to the fact that Triple H is introducing or inducting him...whatever you call it.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Feb 24, 2011 1:45pm
sportswizuhrd;688140 wrote:I am going to start deleting you from Facebook when I have to work and recording Raw on DVR. Haha.
I don't get to watch it until the next day either! Lol

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Feb 24, 2011 5:02pm
Two of the craziest wrestlers ever.sportswizuhrd;689690 wrote: Abdullah The Butcher-Terry Funk

Enforcer
Posts: 2,140
Feb 24, 2011 5:56pm
The HOF is Not a True HOF till Gillberg gets in!!!!!
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Feb 24, 2011 7:27pm
GoChiefs;690176 wrote:I don't get to watch it until the next day either! Lol
Didn't you have a status saying Time to play the Game on Monday night? And something about the Rock last week?

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Feb 24, 2011 7:36pm
sportswizuhrd;690684 wrote:Didn't you have a status saying Time to play the Game on Monday night? And something about the Rock last week?
Yep. Bastard friends of mine texted me though. I wasn't watching it. LOL
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Feb 24, 2011 7:55pm
So back to the Sting speculation...obviously he had nothing to do with the 2-21 thing...and I just saw on 411 that he's going to be at the TNA tapings tonight to start a feud with Jeff Hardy.

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Feb 24, 2011 10:53pm
Enforcer;690577 wrote:The HOF is Not a True HOF till Gillberg gets in!!!!!
I LOL'd

Enforcer
Posts: 2,140
Feb 24, 2011 11:10pm
Yeah Sting made his Return tonite at the TNA tapings and beat Jeff Hardy to WIN the Title
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Feb 24, 2011 11:19pm
Enforcer;690964 wrote:Yeah Sting made his Return tonite at the TNA tapings and beat Jeff Hardy to WIN the Title
Ha ha. Well, feud over.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Feb 24, 2011 11:24pm
Leonardo;690519 wrote:Two of the craziest wrestlers ever.
Ever heard of Necro Butcher?

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Feb 25, 2011 12:11am
Trueblue23;690982 wrote:Ever heard of Necro Butcher?
No. I looked him up and he reminds me of wrestlers that wrestle for promotions that HAVE to do high-risk stuff to get noticed. I seen a couple videos and it looked like there were 100 people there.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Feb 28, 2011 9:22pm
Evan Bourne made his return...I'm sure that's a M.I.T.B. participant.