SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:07pm
Mmmmmmmmmmk. It isn't a coincidence that no one seemed to bring their A game in all 5 playoff games against Mooney--they really are just that good.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:08pm
Yes I watched the game. Did you? Surely you didn't miss Mooney players trying to strip the ball out every chance they got. They're SMARTER, BETTER football players because of work, preparation and coaching whether any of you want to admit it or not.sebastian wrote: Mooney's kids were taught that if you run at someone and don't hit them, then they would fumble? WOW, that's impressive. Mooney hits weren't what caused the fumbles. Did you watch the game?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 4, 2009 2:09pm
Nobody is denying that Mooney is a great team. Why you all get so defensive whenever anyone speaks there opinion about Mooney? LOL Not a knock..just something I noticed and was curious about.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 4, 2009 2:10pm
But did you see the fumbles from DeSales when there wasn't anyone from Mooney around? They got go go gadget arms or something?SQ_Crazies wrote: Surely you didn't miss Mooney players trying to strip the ball out every chance they got.
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tank2nasty
Posts: 424
Dec 4, 2009 2:13pm
Because Salem can't do anything football wise! Lol
I had to take at least 1 more shot SQ!
I'M LIKE IVERSON!
I had to take at least 1 more shot SQ!
I'M LIKE IVERSON!
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:14pm
Which means they didn't want to be there? Or it means they made mistakes? Mooney made mistakes too. There has never been a team in the history of football that has played a mistake free game.
And you guys should just all be glad that they don't have all the best players from the Mahoning Valley. They'd just be ever better and then there wouldn't be GREAT programs that constantly put out college talent like:
Ursuline
Harding
JFK
Howland
Poland
Canfield
Hubbard
Girard
Should I continue? There is another team from Youngstown playing in a state title game. Just accept it, Youngstown football takes a backseat to no one--we've known it up here for years.
And you guys should just all be glad that they don't have all the best players from the Mahoning Valley. They'd just be ever better and then there wouldn't be GREAT programs that constantly put out college talent like:
Ursuline
Harding
JFK
Howland
Poland
Canfield
Hubbard
Girard
Should I continue? There is another team from Youngstown playing in a state title game. Just accept it, Youngstown football takes a backseat to no one--we've known it up here for years.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 4, 2009 2:16pm
You wanting a cookie or something? I don't believe anyone said anything negative about 'Youngstown' football.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:17pm
I don't believe I quoted anyone as saying anything negative about Youngstown football.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 4, 2009 2:18pm
Then why is it none of the other Youngstown schools do much in football.
Playoffs
State titles
I could be wrong but it seems the two smaller schools are almost always the king of the hill up there.
Playoffs
State titles
I could be wrong but it seems the two smaller schools are almost always the king of the hill up there.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 4, 2009 2:20pm
Well you brought it up..so I'd assume you'd think someone would have said something then. Once again..nobody has said "Youngstown football takes a backseat to Stark County" or any other County. So I guess I'm just trying to figure out...what's ur point?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:23pm
It just isn't a coincidence that their closest game in the regular season and their toughest playoff game came against two other Mahoning Valley teams. To say they're a Mahoning Valley All-Star team is insane, they could never leave the Valley in the regular season and still be more battle tested than any team in D3.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 4, 2009 2:28pm
^^^
Great HS football team no doubt...too bad none of their Dads have jobs though.
Great HS football team no doubt...too bad none of their Dads have jobs though.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 4, 2009 2:40pm
SQ, you forgot my alma mater Liberty. They've put out their fair share of D1 athletes as well.
And if I recall, we beat a heavily favored #1 ranked Mentor Lake Catholic a few years ago, and were a Chris Harrison torn ACL away from beating Buchtel and giving Steubenville a run for their money.
And if I recall, we beat a heavily favored #1 ranked Mentor Lake Catholic a few years ago, and were a Chris Harrison torn ACL away from beating Buchtel and giving Steubenville a run for their money.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 4, 2009 2:44pm
Great job Cards!
I didn't get to see the game, but I heard the Fox punt was the best play of the season.
And a halfback pass?!? Did they take that page out of the South Catholic 7th grade playbook?
#7 feels great! 15-0 feels great!
Thanks Cards for a special season...and thank you seniors for all the memories!
I didn't get to see the game, but I heard the Fox punt was the best play of the season.
And a halfback pass?!? Did they take that page out of the South Catholic 7th grade playbook?
#7 feels great! 15-0 feels great!
Thanks Cards for a special season...and thank you seniors for all the memories!
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tank2nasty
Posts: 424
Dec 4, 2009 2:44pm
I hope you're not talking about 05!lhslep134 wrote: SQ, you forgot my alma mater Liberty. They've put out their fair share of D1 athletes as well.
And if I recall, we beat a heavily favored #1 ranked Mentor Lake Catholic a few years ago, and were a Chris Harrison torn ACL away from beating Buchtel and giving Steubenville a run for their money.
Nobody had a shot against us that year!
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:52pm
Good call, Liberty is another one. They churn out more D1 athletes than most schools could ever dream of seeing.
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Paladin
Posts: 313
Dec 4, 2009 2:54pm
I made my comment in all seriousness. I live in the area and know each year of the players who live in Poland, Boardman, etc. To suggest that all the Mooney players are from Youngstown is a lie. Ditto Ursuline players. I didn't mention "recruiting". Local folks who watch all the programs up here see where the players are from and who they play for. Simple fact. And the other fact is that the team has ALL Star players from various communities, not just Youngstown. To call Mooney a collection of All Star players from Mahoning County is quite correct also.
Congats to the Champs.
Congats to the Champs.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 4, 2009 2:56pm
No, it really isn't.Paladin wrote: To call Mooney a collection of All Star players from Mahoning County is quite correct also.
Congats to the Champs.
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Bluepride13
Posts: 75
Dec 4, 2009 3:01pm
Mooney, Ursuline, ....Dont have to recruit. Their programs recruit themselves. Quit crying. Its strange that the same publics and same privates are usually good year in and year out. Its the program. Build it ...and they will come. Dont cry about teams that built solid programs with good coaching and good kids who want to be there.
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tank2nasty
Posts: 424
Dec 4, 2009 3:01pm
I agree, and that's not pointing fingers to recruiting!Paladin wrote: I made my comment in all seriousness. I live in the area and know each year of the players who live in Poland, Boardman, etc. To suggest that all the Mooney players are from Youngstown is a lie. Ditto Ursuline players. I didn't mention "recruiting". Local folks who watch all the programs up here see where the players are from and who they play for. Simple fact. And the other fact is that the team has ALL Star players from various communities, not just Youngstown. To call Mooney a collection of All Star players from Mahoning County is quite correct also.
Congats to the Champs.
Successful programs draw in talent!
Mooney gives football players the best opportunity to become successful as an adult!
There is nothing wrong with parents wanting to give their kids ample opportunity!
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Cmhs74
Posts: 174
Dec 4, 2009 3:30pm
First of all, congratulations to Cardinal Mooney for winning their 7th state championship. I was a senior when they won their first. I agree with Paladin on where the players come from, but one thing that wasn't mentioned is that these players, at least most of them come from Catholic grade schools (feeder schools) that are in Boardman, Poland, and Youngstown. Most of these players, not all, have gone to Catholic schools all their lives. Some parents want their children to have a Catholic education. If you would like to see what grade school the player went to you can go to Mooneyfootball.com and look at the roster. It is stated there where everyone can see. Congratulations again to the Cards, especially the seniors.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 4, 2009 3:42pm
First of all the largest school that is left following consolidation over the past few years is East and they're D2.newarkcatholicfan wrote: Then why is it none of the other Youngstown schools do much in football.
Playoffs
State titles
I could be wrong but it seems the two smaller schools are almost always the king of the hill up there.
Second, coaching has been a bit lacklustre, Chaney coach retired, Rayen gone, South gone, Wilson gone etc...
The consolidations have hurt programs, a lot of loyalties to coaches that maybe didn't get the job, players not coming together as one unit etc...
They may or may not get together and get going in the right direction, but there's a hangover from consoldating no doubt.
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ridgerunner88
Posts: 229
Dec 4, 2009 3:46pm
WOW! I missed this one by a mile. I'll admit my prediction was partially wishful thinking (DeSales 21 Mooney 17). Mooney was completely dominating. I was surprised that DeSales didn't have a better showing, a lot of unforced errors, I don't think they brought their A game at all. It would have been nice to see a more closely contested game. Even with DeSales best effort this would have been a lot closer but still a Mooney victory. Congratulations on a great year, you were head and shoulders above all others.
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Cmhs74
Posts: 174
Dec 4, 2009 3:49pm
Thanks Ridgerunner for the comments, DeSales had a good year and nothing to hang their heads about. Just wasn't their day. Best of luck in 2010.
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ridgerunner88
Posts: 229
Dec 4, 2009 4:39pm
Heard only had about 160 (low for him) but man it was an electric 160. Can't wait to see him at WV.Cmhs74 wrote: Thanks Ridgerunner for the comments, DeSales had a good year and nothing to hang their heads about. Just wasn't their day. Best of luck in 2010.