Twelve Iowa football players in hospital

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goosebumps
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Jan 27, 2011 2:11pm
Sorry but overdosing on Creatine doesn't cause Rhabdo. Creatine raises your serum creatinine levels which may give the allusion of a kidney function problem by falsely lowering whats called your creatinine clearance (aka Glomerular filtration rate) which is what most physicians use to check your renal function.

Rhabdo is a completely different animal. Its caused by protein build-up (myoglobin and others) in your kidneys from the break down of muscle fibers. Its possible to get it from working out too hard, but like another poster said, 12 players aren't all getting it at the same time if its from working out. Its most likely being caused by a chemical and its not creatine.

I honestly won't be surprised if it comes out they were taking Adderall or another amphetamine to lose weight/get cut or to study.
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Footwedge
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Jan 27, 2011 6:29pm
charliehustle14;653744 wrote:Extremely odd. That condition is common with the prolonged use of statin medications and trauma injuries. However, I never knew it could be developed through too much exercise. Makes sense though.

Iowa's program is certainly keeping things interesting here as of late.
Rhabdo is a very serious condition indeed...and can be fatal. But there is no clinical evidence proving that long term statin usage causes this. Now statin usage with other drugs concomitantly can cause rhabdo.....in particular a fibrate called gemfibrozil.
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Speedofsand
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Jan 27, 2011 8:29pm
I meant creatine combined with a bad batch or poor choice of supplements. Adderall is one I've heard is possible. 12 at once is just too odd.
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goosebumps
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Jan 27, 2011 9:23pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/38713/iowa-players-test-negative-for-illegal-drugs

apparently no illegal drugs in their system. Stimulants are flushed out pretty quickly though 5-7 days max some much quicker. So who knows whats causing this problem. The whole situation is kind of crazy.
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gorocks99
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Jan 28, 2011 11:18am
It's getting bad, from reports I've read. A couple of the guys have been put on dialysis, and Doyel from CBS reported that one player's kidney function is "below 40%."
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Footwedge
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Jan 28, 2011 8:52pm
Rhabdo is pretty damn serious.
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Cat Food Flambe'
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Jan 30, 2011 4:22pm
Event if all the affected players recover, I suspect this may may be the end of Ferentz's tenure at Iowa. Coupled with the drug issues this fall, it's obvious that the program is out of whack. At best, the coaching staff has no control of the players, much like John Cooper's last couple of years at tOSU.

I would guess that the odds of some sort of substance use has to underlie the outbreak - even if the staff was completely unaware of it, his personal response to the situation will destroy his ability to recruit. He couldn't have handled this in a worse manner.
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dave
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Jan 30, 2011 4:52pm
Cat Food Flambe';658215 wrote:Event if all the affected players recover, I suspect this may may be the end of Ferentz's tenure at Iowa. Coupled with the drug issues this fall, it's obvious that the program is out of whack. At best, the coaching staff has no control of the players, much like John Cooper's last couple of years at tOSU.

I would guess that the odds of some sort of substance use has to underlie the outbreak - even if the staff was completely unaware of it, his personal response to the situation will destroy his ability to recruit. He couldn't have handled this in a worse manner.
He's got like 10yrs left on his contract, he's not going anywhere. Maybe he will have to can an assistant or trainer.
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ytownfootball
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Jan 30, 2011 5:14pm
Iowa loves Ferentz I doubt the actions of the players will have much effect on how he's perceived long term. Should it? A little I think, you do have to have some accountability.
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LJ
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Mar 23, 2011 10:11am
The report also confirms previous media reports that the players who fell ill did not ingest anything, legal or otherwise, that caused their condition.

>> The 13 players were in no way responsible for their own injuries. Rhabdomyolysis was not associated with use of prescription medications, over-the-counter medications, supplements or energy drinks.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/ahead-of-iowas-release-details-of-rhabdo-findings-emerge/