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tigerballonline
Posts: 125
Jan 20, 2011 9:29pm
Sounds like a set up to sue someone. After re-watching this, no one takes a step 2 feet high, she did it on purpose no doubt about it.

NNN
Posts: 902
Jan 21, 2011 1:37am
wildcats20;645704 wrote:If someone can sue McDonalds over hot coffee and win, she will sue the mall and win too.
It's a fucking joke.
The McDonald's case was absolutely the correct verdict. And this is coming from someone who despises frivolous lawsuits.

End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Jan 21, 2011 2:50am
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She's a DUMBASS
She's a DUMBASS
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hang_loose
Posts: 802
Jan 21, 2011 3:38am
She ought to sue her nephew and herself for letting the world know who she is....Its not like you can recognize her on the video, as far as I can tell, that could be someone else falling in the fountain.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 21, 2011 4:44am
So this dumb bitch is trying to steal money again by pursuing a ridiculous law suit...
Wow... just wow..
Wow... just wow..

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 21, 2011 8:20am
hoops23;646500 wrote:So this dumb bitch is trying to steal money again by pursuing a ridiculous law suit...
Wow... just wow..
Again?
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 21, 2011 8:36am
Quint;645828 wrote:Interesting hypothetical!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fountain-falling-texter-cathy-cruz-marrero-dont-text/story?id=12685189
Yes again O-Trap.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 21, 2011 8:53am
Wow.
One would THINK that if you had that much dirty laundry, you'd try to stay out of the public eye for awhile.
Dumb.
One would THINK that if you had that much dirty laundry, you'd try to stay out of the public eye for awhile.
Dumb.
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 21, 2011 7:48pm
NNN;646481 wrote:The McDonald's case was absolutely the correct verdict. And this is coming from someone who despises frivolous lawsuits.
Elaborate

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 21, 2011 11:33pm
O-Trap;646540 wrote:Wow.
One would THINK that if you had that much dirty laundry, you'd try to stay out of the public eye for awhile.
Dumb.
You would think... Then again, listening to her talk would prove otherwise...

Quint
Posts: 737
Jan 22, 2011 11:23am
dlazz;647447 wrote:Elaborate
I can't remember the exact facts to the case, but the woman had 3rd degree burns all over her stomach, legs, and crotch. I think it even resulted in a Hysterectomy. I believe the coffee served at that McD's was like twice as hot as coffee at surrounding locations. I also agree that the case was decided correctly, but the public's perception of the case has been greatly exaggerated in favor of tort reform. I would also like to say that I'm in law school (so I may be biased), but I'm also in favor of tort reform. No lawyer should have taken the "Fountain Lady's case."

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Jan 22, 2011 11:43am
I like how right before she walks out of the frame, she turns around to look like "Who the fuck put that fountain there???" Over 3,000,000 views, she went about this the wrong way. She probably could have made some money out of this without suing anyone.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Jan 22, 2011 11:49am
She needed to make some money to pay off some of the debt she incurred from the five previous fraud cases she has pending with the court system.
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 22, 2011 1:03pm
Quint;647904 wrote:I can't remember the exact facts to the case, but the woman had 3rd degree burns all over her stomach, legs, and crotch. I think it even resulted in a Hysterectomy. I believe the coffee served at that McD's was like twice as hot as coffee at surrounding locations. I also agree that the case was decided correctly, but the public's perception of the case has been greatly exaggerated in favor of tort reform. I would also like to say that I'm in law school (so I may be biased), but I'm also in favor of tort reform. No lawyer should have taken the "Fountain Lady's case."
Coffee is hot. When you spill it on yourself it's your fault.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 22, 2011 1:06pm
dlazz;648027 wrote:Coffee is hot. When you spill it on yourself it's your fault.
Yeah, but if the cup its served in doesn't say "Caution: Hot", how are consumers supposed to know?
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 22, 2011 1:54pm
karen lotz;648028 wrote:Yeah, but if the cup its served in doesn't say "Caution: Hot", how are consumers supposed to know?
It's coffee. Coffee is hot.
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Sonofanump
Jan 22, 2011 2:04pm
karen lotz;648028 wrote:Yeah, but if the cup its served in doesn't say "Caution: Hot", how are consumers supposed to know?


karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 22, 2011 2:19pm
dlazz;648150 wrote:It's coffee. Coffee is hot.
Sarcasm.
I thought I was on your ignore list anyway?
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 22, 2011 8:50pm
Don't worry, you are. I just wanted to point out that absurd comment.

NNN
Posts: 902
Jan 23, 2011 2:39am
dlazz;647447 wrote:Elaborate
Quint;647904 wrote:I can't remember the exact facts to the case, but the woman had 3rd degree burns all over her stomach, legs, and crotch. I think it even resulted in a Hysterectomy. I believe the coffee served at that McD's was like twice as hot as coffee at surrounding locations. I also agree that the case was decided correctly, but the public's perception of the case has been greatly exaggerated in favor of tort reform. I would also like to say that I'm in law school (so I may be biased), but I'm also in favor of tort reform. No lawyer should have taken the "Fountain Lady's case."
dlazz;648027 wrote:Coffee is hot. When you spill it on yourself it's your fault.
karen lotz;648028 wrote:Yeah, but if the cup its served in doesn't say "Caution: Hot", how are consumers supposed to know?
dlazz;648150 wrote:It's coffee. Coffee is hot.
Here are the basics of the case. Woman buys coffee, spills it, is burned, sues, wins judgment. Public outcry over "klutz does what klutzes do, and McDonald's has to pay".
In reality, the woman (79 years old and 103 pounds at the time) was handed coffee that was kept at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees, which exceeded the industry standard by over 20 degrees. In addition, neither the cup itself nor the lid was properly insulated to prevent significant heat transfer from the contents to whatever poor bastard happened to grab the cup. So, the customer takes the cup of coffee and, with a lot of heat-related discomfort on the palms of her hands, sets the cup between her knees on the passenger seat. While attempting to remove the lid, the coffee spilled across her upper thighs and, um, nether regions, causing third-degree burns to the immediate area that required skin grafting. She ended up losing 20 pounds (down to 83), and required close to two years of medical treatment.
The case against McDonald's boiled down to the following points:
- McDonald's served coffee substantially hotter than the industry standard in cups that were not meant to handle the high temperatures
- In the previous 10 years, McDonald's had received something like 2,000 complaints and 700 formal complaints over the temperature of their coffee
- McDonald's had also been sued repeatedly over coffee-related burns, and had settled out of court (up to a half-million dollars) every time
- In court, McDonald's conceded that it was not physically possible to consume their coffee at the temperature that it was served
- With the track record of complaints and lawsuits, the woman's lawyer argued that McDonald's' refusal to lower the temperature of their coffee went from simple negligence into recklessness; the company knew there was a serious problem and absolutely refused to do anything about it, even though every other fast food company that served coffee had already taken such measures. Essentially, McDonald's didn't care.
- She won $160,000 in compensatory damages; the extra millions were punitive damages against McDonald's that was calculated to be two days' worth of coffee revenue nationwide
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 23, 2011 3:48am
GOLD DIGGING WHORE RIGHT?
I'm all for getting rid of frivolous cases but whoever said it was correct, the McDonald's coffee case was not frivolous.
I'm all for getting rid of frivolous cases but whoever said it was correct, the McDonald's coffee case was not frivolous.

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 23, 2011 11:05am
Interviewer: Did you learn anything?
Dumb bitch: yes I did. Do not text and walk. I could have been in the hospital. I could have walked into a bus.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've never seen a bus drive through the mall. I'm waiting for the campaign to stop texting and walking. It's dangerous!
Dumb bitch: yes I did. Do not text and walk. I could have been in the hospital. I could have walked into a bus.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've never seen a bus drive through the mall. I'm waiting for the campaign to stop texting and walking. It's dangerous!
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Be Nice
Posts: 1,120
Jan 23, 2011 9:46pm
Hysterectomy? I didn't know those "slits" could act as vacuums.Quint;647904 wrote:I can't remember the exact facts to the case, but the woman had 3rd degree burns all over her stomach, legs, and crotch. I think it even resulted in a Hysterectomy. I believe the coffee served at that McD's was like twice as hot as coffee at surrounding locations. I also agree that the case was decided correctly, but the public's perception of the case has been greatly exaggerated in favor of tort reform. I would also like to say that I'm in law school (so I may be biased), but I'm also in favor of tort reform. No lawyer should have taken the "Fountain Lady's case."
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 23, 2011 9:53pm
NNN;648821 wrote: While attempting to remove the lid, the coffee spilled across her upper thighs
This part is where the blame transfers from McDonalds to the woman.