OHSAA Attempts to Level the Playing Field

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Jan 21, 2011 7:18 PM
The formula is ridiculous. There's a few examples of it on the other thread for DSJ and Mooney.

I think it's going to negatively affect some winning public schools who will vote it down. I honestly think they tried to make it way to complicated, and it may not pass.
Jan 21, 2011 7:18pm
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Jan 22, 2011 3:40 PM
sherm03;647429 wrote: I honestly think they tried to make it way to complicated, and it may not pass.

Huh? The votes are in. Change is coming. Embrace it.
Jan 22, 2011 3:40pm
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Jan 22, 2011 3:53 PM
I tend to agree with you to an extent. However, it is school administrators rather than coaches that will be voting. This proposal was pushed by a group of superintendents. IMVHO, the proposal will pass.
Jan 22, 2011 3:53pm
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Jan 22, 2011 7:10 PM
gamauter;642758 wrote:The poverty level is considerably higher than 7k, and if you are on a voucher you are not paying 7k.

So then....The athletes are the ones getting the free lunches? Interesting.
Jan 22, 2011 7:10pm
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Jan 22, 2011 7:18 PM
fish82;641534 wrote:The playing field is level. One side merely does a better job lacing up their cleats than the other. ;)

It's just a coincidence that the parochials are "lacing them up better"....right?
Jan 22, 2011 7:18pm
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Jan 22, 2011 7:57 PM
fish82;641534 wrote:The playing field is level. One side merely does a better job lacing up their cleats than the other. ;)

Voted #1....Most idiotic statement on this site in the past year. Yes, we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 22, 2011 7:57pm
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Jan 22, 2011 9:10 PM
skank;648514 wrote:So then....The athletes are the ones getting the free lunches? Interesting.

According to the new proposal, you aren't as good of an athlete if you get free lunches.
Jan 22, 2011 9:10pm
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Jan 23, 2011 8:32 AM
skank;648519 wrote:It's just a coincidence that the parochials are "lacing them up better"....right?

Not at all, it's just that the primary reason escapes you, or you are in denial.
Jan 23, 2011 8:32am
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Jan 23, 2011 8:55 AM
Be Nice;648537 wrote:Voted #1....Most idiotic statement on this site in the past year. Yes, we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of idiotic...you did see the winky thing at the end of the sentence, right Skippy? :rolleyes: <------that's the "rolling eyes" thingy. It's self explanatory.

And just so I don't offend skank..."winky thing" means the specific smiley, not a reference to the male package. So no need to go all postal again.
Jan 23, 2011 8:55am
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Jan 24, 2011 7:17 PM
So just curious, which will the schools that are already D1 vote on this? The wont be effected in any way, so what way would they vote?
Jan 24, 2011 7:17pm
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Jan 25, 2011 6:58 AM
I think they will vote no because of the possibility of being effected.

If you read the smaller print at the bottom of each section of the proposal it states that the competition committee has the ability to adjust the rule and how it's applied as they see fit. !!!

Why anyone would give this committee unlimited power to use whenever they so choose is beyond be.
Jan 25, 2011 6:58am
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Viking

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Jan 25, 2011 8:57 AM
The proposal will pass. It is well intended, but very weak.
Jan 25, 2011 8:57am
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Jan 25, 2011 9:21 AM
Embrace it.
Jan 25, 2011 9:21am
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Jan 25, 2011 2:55 PM
Change is coming.
Jan 25, 2011 2:55pm
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Jan 25, 2011 4:24 PM
GoChiefs;652413 wrote:Change is coming.

Yes it is. This proposal is just a starting point. An OHSAA official stated on NPR this morning that more changes will be coming if this proposal passes and the Commissioner is strongly behind this proposal. The heat from a group of Wayne County superintendents forced the OHSAA'a hand.
Jan 25, 2011 4:24pm
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Jan 25, 2011 5:11 PM
Change is coming embrace it.
Jan 25, 2011 5:11pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:06 AM
Viking;652632 wrote:Yes it is. This proposal is just a starting point. An OHSAA official stated on NPR this morning that more changes will be coming if this proposal passes and the Commissioner is strongly behind this proposal. The heat from a group of Wayne County superintendents forced the OHSAA'a hand.

I'm in Wayne Co....and I wouldn't vote for this if I had a say.

If I had a guess, the "wayne co" bunch wants separate tournaments, or a set-in-stone multipier....this proposal is neither.
Jan 31, 2011 10:06am
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Jan 31, 2011 10:28 AM
Viking;652632 wrote:... An OHSAA official stated on NPR this morning that more changes will be coming if this proposal passes and the Commissioner is strongly behind this proposal. ...
It doesn't matter if the Commissioner is strongly behind this proposal or not. What matters is if the voters are willing to vote for this and give unlimited power to a small group who has the ability to change the proposal anytime they wish.
Jan 31, 2011 10:28am
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Jan 31, 2011 11:14 AM
Last two time this has come to a vote...late 70's and early 90's...there was tons of support for a change, until it came time to actually vote. Both time, the proposals went down heavy.
Jan 31, 2011 11:14am
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Jan 31, 2011 8:55 PM
RedRider1;658936 wrote:Last two time this has come to a vote...late 70's and early 90's...there was tons of support for a change, until it came time to actually vote. Both time, the proposals went down heavy.

The "Wayne County" bunch would prefer separate playoffs, but I think that they will go with this proposal and give it a test spend. The way it is set up more changes could come in the future. If the proposal doesn't pass that same group will really push for separate playoffs.
Jan 31, 2011 8:55pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:37 PM
Once again let this small group push for seperate playoffs and see how hard the rest of the state laughs at them.
Jan 31, 2011 10:37pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:39 PM
Viking;659792 wrote:The "Wayne County" bunch would prefer separate playoffs, but I think that they will go with this proposal and give it a test spend. The way it is set up more changes could come in the future. If the proposal doesn't pass that same group will really push for separate playoffs.
Even if it does pass, if it doesn't produce the desired results, i.e. 75%+ state titles won by public schools, expect a strong push for separate playoffs. Before it's all said and done, the new tournament/playoff system will not resemble in any way, shape or form the current system. It will be a huge mess.
Jan 31, 2011 10:39pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:42 PM
Viking;659792 wrote:The "Wayne County" bunch would prefer separate playoffs, but I think that they will go with this proposal and give it a test spend. The way it is set up more changes could come in the future. If the proposal doesn't pass that same group will really push for separate playoffs.

And THAT'S the part that a lot of people have a problem with. The committee can change the proposal, when and if they feel it needs to be changed.

So essentially, the proposal that is being voted on may not be the proposal that stays. That's a problem for a lot of people.
Jan 31, 2011 10:42pm
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Feb 1, 2011 6:04 AM
The vote on this proposal is backed by the commissioner and is basically a referendum on his leadership. A no vote could rock the OHSAA to its foundation.
Feb 1, 2011 6:04am