Commander of Awesome
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Jan 12, 2011 8:19am
KR1245;635197 wrote:Dudes a piece of shit
+1
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 12, 2011 8:55am
Another said that LeBron will come out today and say he didn't know the definition of Karma(like he did with contraction).
Thats some good stuff right there.
Yeah the officials were awful, I think it started when they decided to go ahead and have the jump ball to start the game.Officials fucked us. A call here..a call there and it is a 40 pt game.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 12, 2011 9:01am
There's a lot of season left but LeBron has got to feel like he's getting the last laugh.
That tweet was salt in the wound.
That tweet was salt in the wound.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 12, 2011 9:14am
But its ok for all of Cleveland to wish ill on Bron?
Dudes a piece of shit
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 12, 2011 9:18am
wildcats20;635251 wrote:But its ok for all of Cleveland to wish ill on Bron?
Yes. Cavs didn't stab him in the back or hold him hostage the way he did to Cleveland.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 12, 2011 9:20am
Didn't watch the game, so I can't comment on specifics. But this really shouldn't be all that surprising when the Cavs are playing Manny Harris 41 minutes. Yes, this team should have more pride and are not as bad as this score, so it should be embarrassing.
As for James, what else would you expect? I'm not going to say what he tweeted was right or wrong, but when the owner of the franchise rips him the way Gilbert did, Lebron probably hopes they lose every single game, and that I do not blame him for.
Things will only continue to get uglier for the Cavs. They are now dealing with injuries, everyone on the roster has basically proved to have little value and now people are saying the players are quitting on the coach. I thought maybe they were only a few years away, but they are worse now than they ever were prior to Lebron.
As for James, what else would you expect? I'm not going to say what he tweeted was right or wrong, but when the owner of the franchise rips him the way Gilbert did, Lebron probably hopes they lose every single game, and that I do not blame him for.
Things will only continue to get uglier for the Cavs. They are now dealing with injuries, everyone on the roster has basically proved to have little value and now people are saying the players are quitting on the coach. I thought maybe they were only a few years away, but they are worse now than they ever were prior to Lebron.
thedynasty1998
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Jan 12, 2011 9:21am
Commander of Awesome;635255 wrote:Yes. Cavs didn't stab him in the back or hold him hostage the way he did to Cleveland.
Gilbert, the guy Lebron made millions for, didn't stab Lebron in the back with his letter?
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 12, 2011 9:24am
wildcats20;635251 wrote:But its ok for all of Cleveland to wish ill on Bron?
Ummm, yes. Cleveland didn't leave LeBron. Cleveland loved him and did everything the could to support him. They showed up for games with intensity (which is much more than Miami fans can say). They were wronged and were responding as any betrayed person would. And they weren't wronged solely because LeBron left. It was because of how he did it mostly that made it terrible. There were going to be upset people if he left mainly because he lied to Cleveland (About bringing a championship before leaving). But the way he did it made it worse.
If there actually was such a thing as Karma in the world, LeBron would never win an NBA championship and go down as one of the biggest choke artists of all time.
Fly4Fun
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Jan 12, 2011 9:24am
thedynasty1998;635261 wrote:Gilbert, the guy Lebron made millions for, didn't stab Lebron in the back with his letter?
You can't stab someone in the back 2 seconds after they just spit in your face and threw shit at you.
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 12, 2011 9:30am
Fly4Fun;635264 wrote:You can't stab someone in the back 2 seconds after they just spit in your face and threw shit at you.
He wont get it, best to just move on.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 12, 2011 9:31am
I understand that's how most people feel, and I'm fine with that. But to take a jab at the Miami fans is comical. You think Lebron really cares about the fan base in the regular season? He went to Miami to win a championship, not because of fan support.Fly4Fun;635262 wrote:Ummm, yes. Cleveland didn't leave LeBron. Cleveland loved him and did everything the could to support him. They showed up for games with intensity (which is much more than Miami fans can say). They were wronged and were responding as any betrayed person would. And they weren't wronged solely because LeBron left. It was because of how he did it mostly that made it terrible. There were going to be upset people if he left mainly because he lied to Cleveland (About bringing a championship before leaving). But the way he did it made it worse.
If there actually was such a thing as Karma in the world, LeBron would never win an NBA championship and go down as one of the biggest choke artists of all time.
As for him lying about bringing a Championship, that's just stupid. That's like the freshman girl in HS telling you that you will be together "forever". And then three weeks later she dumps you and you hold a grudge because she is a liar. It's just really immature to say he lied about a championship.
Fly4Fun
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Jan 12, 2011 9:33am
He's not a 14 year old hormonal girl. He was a grown man when he made that commitment. So yes, you can hold it against him.
And ya, it is fair to take a jab at Miami fans. Any fan base that doesn't support a team of that talent level is pathetic. Florida professional sports fans in general are pathetic... besides the weather and lack of income tax there is no reason to play there if you actually like playing for a town that will appreciate you.
And ya, it is fair to take a jab at Miami fans. Any fan base that doesn't support a team of that talent level is pathetic. Florida professional sports fans in general are pathetic... besides the weather and lack of income tax there is no reason to play there if you actually like playing for a town that will appreciate you.
wildcats20
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Jan 12, 2011 9:33am
And will you all be calling Dan Gilbert a liar when the Cavs don't win a ring before Bron does?
Oh wait, it will be ok because Gilbert was mad at the time he said it.
Oh wait, it will be ok because Gilbert was mad at the time he said it.
thedynasty1998
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Jan 12, 2011 9:34am
Commander of Awesome;635271 wrote:He wont get it, best to just move on.
I wouldn't expect a mail room guy to understand the dynamics and etiquette in an employer/employee relationship.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 12, 2011 9:35am
wildcats20;635276 wrote:And will you all be calling Dan Gilbert a liar when the Cavs don't win a ring before Bron does?
Oh wait, it will be ok because Gilbert was mad at the time he said it.
Interesting perspective...
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 12, 2011 9:39am
thedynasty1998;635277 wrote:I wouldn't expect a mail room guy to understand the dynamics and etiquette in an employer/employee relationship.
I would call you a deadbeat considering you've been jobless, but I heard you got the greeter job at walmart yesterday, so congrats!
Fly4Fun
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Jan 12, 2011 9:39am
wildcats20;635276 wrote:And will you all be calling Dan Gilbert a liar when the Cavs don't win a ring before Bron does?
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Oh wait, it will be ok because Gilbert was mad at the time he said it.
If Dan Gilbert simply quits on the team and sells it than yes. But if he does everything in his power and falls short of his goal, than I will be satisfied that he tried.
Did LeBron do everything in his power to win a ring BEFORE he left? Hell no, he chose to leave. Secondly, there is no denying that he quit on the team against the Celtics. Anyone who watched could see it happen.
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 12, 2011 9:40am
Fly4Fun;635285 wrote:Secondly, there is no denying that he quit on the team against the Celtics. Anyone who watched could see it happen.
Agree completely. Absolutely quit.
wildcats20
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Jan 12, 2011 9:41am
Fly4Fun;635285 wrote:If Dan Gilbert simply quits on the team and sells it than yes. But if he does everything in his power and falls short of his goal, than I will be satisfied that he tried.
Did LeBron do everything in his power to win a ring BEFORE he left? Hell no, he chose to leave. Secondly, there is no denying that he quit on the team against the Celtics. Anyone who watched could see it happen.
But you could say Gilbert quit on the team by NOT getting a big time player to come in and play with Bron. He was satisfied with 2nd rate players.
Fly4Fun
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Jan 12, 2011 9:41am
I just unapproved two posts that contained personal attacks. Try to discuss the topic without doing that. Next person to do so gets an infraction fyi.
ohiotiger33
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Jan 12, 2011 9:42am
^^ You are pissed because Lebron quit once. He also carried the team that is obviously TERRIBLE on his back for 8 years and got them pretty deep in the playoffs. He won some MVPs and tried his best to win you a title. The big problem was the front office never giving him teammates.
Skyhook79
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Jan 12, 2011 9:43am
wildcats20;635276 wrote:And will you all be calling Dan Gilbert a liar when the Cavs don't win a ring before Bron does?
Oh wait, it will be ok because Gilbert was mad at the time he said it.
You can see into the future?
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 12, 2011 9:43am
wildcats20;635289 wrote:But you could say Gilbert quit on the team by NOT getting a big time player to come in and play with Bron. He was satisfied with 2nd rate players.
Haha, Gilbert and the management were making every move they possibly could. People were always amazed with the trades they were making and giving away so little. That's an invalid criticism. You can't fault Gilbert or the management for that.
Now if they did what Miami did in tanking a year and unloading to make space AND LeBron then left, then yes, you could say that. But as the situation unfolded, that's a ridiculous criticism.
Fly4Fun
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Jan 12, 2011 9:44am
ohiotiger33;635292 wrote:^^ You are pissed because Lebron quit once. He also carried the team that is obviously TERRIBLE on his back for 8 years and got them pretty deep in the playoffs. He won some MVPs and tried his best to win you a title. The big problem was the front office never giving him teammates.
Why are people acting like the front office did nothing? They were one of if not the most active teams as far as trying to upgrade their roster to make a run. They did as much as they could do. Just because it didn't work doesn't mean they didn't try.
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 12, 2011 9:45am
Fly4Fun;635298 wrote:Haha, Gilbert wand the management were making every move they possibly could. People were always amazed with the trades they were making and giving away so little. That's an invalid criticism. You can't fault Gilbert or the management for that.
Now if they did what Miami did in tanking a year and unloading to make space AND LeBron then left, then yes, you could say that. But as the situation unfolded, that's a ridiculous criticism.
Again spot on, but my god seriously guys just go read the old cavs offseason threads. This really is a dead horse.