se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 6, 2011 3:54pm
Yea, if there ends up a rookie salary cap, it will most likely start this upcoming season. The Bradford deals are a thing of the past.
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pinstriper
Posts: 225
Jan 6, 2011 3:56pm
Automatik;628320 wrote:Is this true? Honest question....I've never heard this. Is he that good?
I've heard Trent Dilfer say it, Todd McShay confirm it, and numerous other analysts hint at it. Bottom line, sometimes they just talk to hear themselves talk, but everyone is all in on this kid. His pedigree, his leadership skills, ability to make every throw, his football smarts, his size, and his ability to run make him the perfect NFL QB.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jan 6, 2011 3:57pm
Writerbuckeye;628310 wrote:If his dad is a former CEO, he sure as hell isn't advising him very well.
Yeah, it's admirable that he's going back to college, not only in it for money, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Fact is, his stock will never be higher and the NFL is almost certainly going to end up with a rookie salary schedule of some kind, which means he's turning down millions in guaranteed dollars that won't be there next year (probably).
Take the money and go back for your degree. You have an opportunity to set up not only yourself, but your children and their children for life.
Common sense would say you go pro now, and work out the other details of your life later when your bank account is fat and happy.
Pinstriper nailed it...money isn't an issue for this family. At some point having $5M in the bank, $50M in the bank or $500M in the bank becomes meaningless. Luck's dad could run for governor, senator or congress in WV and destroy any competition. He could probably even beat Rockefeller - that's how much the family is respected. They are likely already worth millions - I'm guessing graduating on time is more important than a rookie contract, which will be there a year from now.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 6, 2011 4:02pm
Blaine Gabbert is now the #1 ranked QB in the draft by most experts. Really?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Jan 6, 2011 4:04pm
Since he was a small boy it's been a dream of his to match skills up against the most beloved program in all of college football the TOSU Buckeyes. He believes he will get that chance in the 2012 NC game. You really hafta give a kid with this kinda commitment huge props.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 6, 2011 4:07pm
I wonder who the #1 pick in the draft will be now..who's gonna' be a Panther??karen lotz;628340 wrote:Blaine Gabbert is now the #1 ranked QB in the draft by most experts. Really?
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jan 6, 2011 4:10pm
vball10set;628345 wrote:I wonder who the #1 pick in the draft will be now..who's gonna' be a Panther??
Panthers should trade down - they have too many holes and they can at least give Claussen one more year....they threw him into the fire way too early. He might not be the answer but it was incredibly unfair how they handled him.
Hesston
Posts: 516
Jan 6, 2011 4:16pm
dumb move
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Jan 6, 2011 4:18pm
Manhattan Buckeye;628349 wrote:Panthers should trade down - they have too many holes and they can at least give Claussen one more year....they threw him into the fire way too early. He might not be the answer but it was incredibly unfair how they handled him.
Word. Drafting Luck was the best thing that could have happened for Clausen.
This is a bad day for Notre Dame haha Luck stays, the Stanford job looks better for Harbaugh, and Clausen's situation gets much dimmer. Oh man.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Jan 6, 2011 4:20pm
Funny thing is he'll only be a RS-JR. He COULD end up being a RS-SR in 2012. Bizarre how good he is.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 6, 2011 4:21pm
vball10set;628345 wrote:I wonder who the #1 pick in the draft will be now..who's gonna' be a Panther??
Bowers, the DE from Clemson and Fairley from Auburn are the 2 highest ranked players now. Don't know if the Panthers need help there or not. Wouldn't be shocked to see them trade down.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 6, 2011 4:22pm
Tobias Fünke;628361 wrote:Word. Drafting Luck was the best thing that could have happened for Clausen.
This is a bad day for Notre Dame haha Luck stays, the Stanford job looks better for Harbaugh, and Clausen's situation gets much dimmer. Oh man.
I do agree with your first two points but how does the situation get dimmer for Clausen? Its not like they are going to draft Gabbert.
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pinstriper
Posts: 225
Jan 6, 2011 4:23pm
Panthers just got kicked in the nuts. They may have been able to make a Hershal Walker or Ricky Williams type of a trade if Luck was coming out. All depends on if there is a rookie cap or whatever. If that occurs, then picking in the top 3 isn't a curse any longer, it's a blessing.
Fairly from Auburn is a beast - he may be the new #1.
Fairly from Auburn is a beast - he may be the new #1.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 6, 2011 4:32pm
The Panthers need DE help almost as much as they need QB help, so they'll still be able to fill a huge need.
And Luck is a nerd. I'm not really that surprised that he's coming back for his degree.
And Luck is a nerd. I'm not really that surprised that he's coming back for his degree.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 6, 2011 4:35pm
If I would have worked harder, I guarantee I could have made it in the NFL. Top 10 of all time, easy.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Jan 6, 2011 5:24pm
karen lotz;628340 wrote:Blaine Gabbert is now the #1 ranked QB in the draft by most experts. Really?
this reminded me of the walterfootball mock draft write-up about gabbert
http://walterfootball.com/draft2011.php
lolwrote:Gabbert is constantly out of shape, terribly inaccurate and the product of a gimmick offense. But because of his size, arm strength and upside, he's widely considered to be a top-10 prospect. I give up.
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Shane Falco
Posts: 440
Jan 6, 2011 6:44pm
Got a $100 that sayes Ryan Mallet now goes.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jan 6, 2011 7:43pm
Bengals shouldn't have a problem tanking another year to get Luck.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jan 6, 2011 9:08pm
rock_knutne;628245 wrote:That's understandable but he will get guaranteed money if he leaves now and who knows what could happen as far as a rookie salary cap in the NFL or when they agree to a new CBA. I understand that's where his heart is at but it's a bad business decision IMO.
I agree with this. It is a bad business decision, but perhaps it isn't business to him. Can't fault the kid for staying in school, but I think you have to get while the gettin's good.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jan 6, 2011 11:08pm
Are people really bashing this kid for returning to Stanford for his senior year?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 7, 2011 8:46am
Shane Falco;628498 wrote:Got a $100 that sayes Ryan Mallet now goes.
good call
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Jan 7, 2011 2:01pm
Is there any chance now that this dings Cleveland from nabbing A.J. Green? Before, I saw McShay's board had Cleveland landing Green. With Luck returning, might Green go earlier?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 7, 2011 3:26pm
All depends on needs of the teams ahead of the Browns. Panthers, Broncos, Bills, Bengals, and Cardinals are the teams ahead of the Browns. I think all of those teams have bigger needs than a WR so he may still be available at #6. This is a pretty deep draft for WRs overall...Green, Julio Jones, Blackmon. Michael Floyd was projected to go in the 3rd or 4th round according to his evaluation by the NFL.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 7, 2011 6:03pm
Matt Leinart and Jake Locker are shaking their heads somewhere.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 8, 2011 12:01am
I've already heard people say nobody compares to him coming out since Peyton Manning. Now, there haven't been a ton of great QB's since (HOF caliber at least, Brady is it), but most of the other star QB's in the NFL right now were very highly touted first round picks. All of these guys are current starters and were first rounders AFTER Manning. If Luck is in this category or better, he's probably worth it.
Matt Ryan
Ben Roethlisberger
Phillip Rivers
Michael Vick
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Jay Cutler
Joe Flacco
Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
Matthew Stafford
Sam Bradford
Josh Freeman
Matt Ryan
Ben Roethlisberger
Phillip Rivers
Michael Vick
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Jay Cutler
Joe Flacco
Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
Matthew Stafford
Sam Bradford
Josh Freeman