ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 6, 2011 12:33pm
The House is reading the Constitution aloud, a first, oddly.
I'm all for it. But, apparently the R's only are reading the most recent version, "Those portions superseded by amendment will not be read."
Odd. If you want to read it, read the whole thing, even the parts that have been outdated or replaced.
What are the R's afraid of the argument that the Constitution is a living breathing document?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010602807.html?hpid=topnews
Still, cool to hear.
I'm all for it. But, apparently the R's only are reading the most recent version, "Those portions superseded by amendment will not be read."
Odd. If you want to read it, read the whole thing, even the parts that have been outdated or replaced.
What are the R's afraid of the argument that the Constitution is a living breathing document?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010602807.html?hpid=topnews
Still, cool to hear.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 6, 2011 12:43pm
Personally I'd rather the House follow it than read it.
ptown_trojans_1
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Jan 6, 2011 12:49pm
Con_Alma;628050 wrote:Personally I'd rather the House follow it than read it.
True, true.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Jan 6, 2011 12:54pm
I like it and it's a tradition that should be followed by all subsequent houses of the US government (Senate and Supreme Court). It's not a long read.
I agree with Ptown that all amendments should be read, including the Bill of Rights. If they are part of it, then they should be treated as being part of it. The "living Constitution" has to do with words like, "provide the general welfare" and "separation of church and state". jab jab jab
Since these words aren't in any of the documents, then they should not be read to begin with.
I agree with Ptown that all amendments should be read, including the Bill of Rights. If they are part of it, then they should be treated as being part of it. The "living Constitution" has to do with words like, "provide the general welfare" and "separation of church and state". jab jab jab
Since these words aren't in any of the documents, then they should not be read to begin with.
Apple
Posts: 2,620
Jan 6, 2011 1:45pm
Looks like a "Birther" interrupted the reading just as they got to the presidential eligibility section. Drudge had the link to The Hill article
fish82
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Jan 6, 2011 2:01pm
Theatrical, but still cool imo.
derek bomar
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Jan 6, 2011 2:05pm
gotta love the comments on the hill website saying he's not a natural born citizen bc his dad wasn't from here...where the fuck was him mom from? The moon?
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BoatShoes
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Jan 6, 2011 2:21pm
derek bomar;628189 wrote:gotta love the comments on the hill website saying he's not a natural born citizen bc his dad wasn't from here...where the fuck was him mom from? The moon?
Yes the comments bring the lulz but at the same time...sheesh...
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 6, 2011 2:25pm
Love the birthers. They provide an excellent example of Ron White's saying, "You can't fix stupid."
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Bigdogg
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Jan 6, 2011 3:13pm
How much did this cost the taxpayers?
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queencitybuckeye
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Jan 6, 2011 3:17pm
Bigdogg;628262 wrote:How much did this cost the taxpayers?
Likely less than it would cost us for them to do the people's business.
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Bigdogg
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Jan 6, 2011 3:21pm
queencitybuckeye;628264 wrote:Likely less than it would cost us for them to do the people's business.
How many jobs did it create? How did it help eliminate the deficit?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 6, 2011 3:27pm
Bigdogg;628272 wrote:How many jobs did it create? How did it help eliminate the deficit?
When was the last time the House of Representative accomplished either of those?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 6, 2011 3:33pm
I think the point was that we were supposed to be changing the culture from day one and creating jobs and eliminating the deficit. That's what Republicans have said will happen when they took over Congress. Of course it wasn't going to happen in a day but for one of the first things you do to be something purely theatrical is sort of ridiculous.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Jan 6, 2011 4:12pm
^^ So when Reps are sworn in and pledge to uphold and defend the Constitution, it that theatrical too?
The past two years have been the most theatrical circus of a Congress in our nation's history, so I say let 'em spend a week reading, parsing, exegeting, and studying the Constitution. Better than running our nation off a cliff . . .
The past two years have been the most theatrical circus of a Congress in our nation's history, so I say let 'em spend a week reading, parsing, exegeting, and studying the Constitution. Better than running our nation off a cliff . . .
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I Wear Pants
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Jan 6, 2011 4:30pm
That was my point. I thought these guys were supposed to get rid of the circus and theatrics. Not start a different round to another song.
fish82
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Jan 6, 2011 4:48pm
So you don't like the Constitution?I Wear Pants;628291 wrote:I think the point was that we were supposed to be changing the culture from day one and creating jobs and eliminating the deficit. That's what Republicans have said will happen when they took over Congress. Of course it wasn't going to happen in a day but for one of the first things you do to be something purely theatrical is sort of ridiculous.
As I said...yeah, it's theatrical. Is is also poignant/relevant? You bet yer azz it is.
fish82
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Jan 6, 2011 4:49pm
Probably as much as the cost of the oxygen you waste in 24 hours. Is that the best you have today?Bigdogg;628262 wrote:How much did this cost the taxpayers?
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Bigdogg
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Jan 6, 2011 5:07pm
fish82;628409 wrote:Probably as much as the cost of the oxygen you waste in 24 hours. Is that the best you have today?
I would hope they were pretty knowledgeable with the Constitution before they got elected. Sounds to me like the same old thing again.
I am sure a Canadian like you can come up with a better insult to demonstrate your intelligence.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Jan 6, 2011 5:08pm
fish82;628409 wrote:Probably as much as the cost of the oxygen you waste in 24 hours. Is that the best you have today?
Better tax that. After all, according to the EPA we all pollute the Earth every time we exhale.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 6, 2011 5:08pm
I Wear Pants;628291 wrote:I think the point was that we were supposed to be changing the culture from day one and creating jobs and eliminating the deficit. That's what Republicans have said will happen when they took over Congress. Of course it wasn't going to happen in a day but for one of the first things you do to be something purely theatrical is sort of ridiculous.
Oh come on.
It is symbolic, yes. But, the R's still plan on moving their agenda. It is the second day of the new Congress and did not take that long to read actually.
Also, Committees are not even fully assigned yet, staff isn't fully filled, offices still unpacking, etc. So, actual substance is not likely during the first week.
majorspark
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Jan 6, 2011 5:10pm
Bigdogg;628262 wrote:How much did this cost the taxpayers?
Its cost the taxpayers a lot more ignoring it.
fish82
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Jan 6, 2011 6:02pm
Sure I can, hoser.Bigdogg;628427 wrote:I would hope they were pretty knowledgeable with the Constitution before they got elected. Sounds to me like the same old thing again.
I am sure a Canadian like you can come up with a better insult to demonstrate your intelligence.
I just save them for those who actually pose a challenge.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 6, 2011 6:04pm
Indeed, I just don't like that if the Dems would have won and done this many on this board would be yelling about how it's all theatrics or for show.ptown_trojans_1;628430 wrote:Oh come on.
It is symbolic, yes. But, the R's still plan on moving their agenda. It is the second day of the new Congress and did not take that long to read actually.
Also, Committees are not even fully assigned yet, staff isn't fully filled, offices still unpacking, etc. So, actual substance is not likely during the first week.
But they probably should read this for every new congress.
Apple
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Jan 6, 2011 7:56pm
I have a feeling that part of the reason the Constitution was read is rooted in the new Speaker's Catholic up-bringing. Not to make this discussion about religion, but there are times during the Catholic mass, (not at every mass), when the Apostle Creed is recited. It basically reminds everyone why they are there and about what they believe. It's usually a pain in the neck when the priest decides to start it, but it does remind everyone why they are there.
Maybe Boehner decided that just as the Apostle Creed reminds where the church is from, so to, reading the Constitution reminds Congress from where the USA comes. It wasn't a bad thing to do reading it today. I think the intention was good and it does demonstrate that the leadership understands their responsibility and they intend to respect the law of the land.
Maybe Boehner decided that just as the Apostle Creed reminds where the church is from, so to, reading the Constitution reminds Congress from where the USA comes. It wasn't a bad thing to do reading it today. I think the intention was good and it does demonstrate that the leadership understands their responsibility and they intend to respect the law of the land.