
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 9, 2011 4:14pm
This game shouldnt have been this close. Give credit to the Gophers for fighting back, the Buckeyes went through some lull's on offense and Minnesota took advantage.
A win is a win though, I'll take it
A win is a win though, I'll take it
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Jan 9, 2011 4:17pm
gorocks99;631125 wrote:Nice heart from the Gophers. I hate the Big Ten for giving Minnesota this schedule to open things up.
Ohio State went through the same last year. Their first 5 games in the Big Ten were
@ Wisconsin
@ Michigan
Indiana
@ Minnesota
@ Purdue.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 9, 2011 4:37pm
mallymal614;631143 wrote:Ohio State went through the same last year. Their first 5 games in the Big Ten were
@ Wisconsin
@ Michigan
Indiana
@ Minnesota
@ Purdue.
Was just going to post this.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 9, 2011 4:54pm
Writerbuckeye;631135 wrote:Ridiculously bad refereeing in this one, which didn't help OSU at all. They got visitored on their home court.
Glad it worked out.
Agree with this. These three bozos were bad. So inconsistant. Lighty could get a break. One time he attacked the basket and was litterally thrown to the floor...no call. Then on other end, he gets a touch foul.
Give Minny credit, they played the last 7/8 min perfect in terms of getting back into the game. They attacked and kept getting calls going their way. And they didn't miss their FT.
I thought OSU played a very good game except for the last 8 min or so. The first half was a defensive clinic.
Good atmosphere at the Schott today btw. Except for a few rows in upper bowl on the ends, the place was full.
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burt07
Posts: 600
Jan 9, 2011 9:21pm
Tubby was just a little testy after the game today: http://blog.dispatch.com/hoopsscoops/2011/01/postgame_minnesota_1.shtml#more

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 9, 2011 11:21pm
He has nothing to cry about. The refs were the only reason the game ever got close in the end.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 10, 2011 1:06am
This was a great showing by the Buckeyes. I was interested in seeing how Sullinger would fare against a bigger center and he did a great job. Still hit the boards at will and was a force inside. I thought he was getting hacked quite a bit, but wasn't getting the benefit.
Great defensive first half, and outside of the last 8 or so minutes, OSU played a a great game of basketball.
Great defensive first half, and outside of the last 8 or so minutes, OSU played a a great game of basketball.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 10, 2011 1:26am
A great showing??
I don't think so. A team putting on a great show doesn't almost blow a 17 point lead at home. A team putting on a great show doesn't miss critical free throws down the stretch.
I hope OSU learned a valuable lesson. Good teams, like Minnesota, don't quit when they are behind by double digits.
OSU was great defensively in the first half. Diebler did a great job on Hoffarber.
I don't think so. A team putting on a great show doesn't almost blow a 17 point lead at home. A team putting on a great show doesn't miss critical free throws down the stretch.
I hope OSU learned a valuable lesson. Good teams, like Minnesota, don't quit when they are behind by double digits.
OSU was great defensively in the first half. Diebler did a great job on Hoffarber.

bucks36
Posts: 182
Jan 10, 2011 2:29am
Free throws almost bit us in the ass. Also, Minnesota was 24-27 from the foul line. Take away Hoffarbours 2 for 2 and the rest of the team was 22-25. The same guys that were shooting about 65% from the line for the year.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 10, 2011 2:32am
Prescott;631803 wrote:A great showing??
I don't think so. A team putting on a great show doesn't almost blow a 17 point lead at home. A team putting on a great show doesn't miss critical free throws down the stretch.
I hope OSU learned a valuable lesson. Good teams, like Minnesota, don't quit when they are behind by double digits.
OSU was great defensively in the first half. Diebler did a great job on Hoffarber.
Yes, it was a great showing.
The fact that the Bucks controlled the game from tip and even built a lead as big as 18, despite allowing Minny a late comeback, is still a great showing.
The team is still fairly young and let's face it, they haven't really been tested. They're used to building big leads and keeping them, but Minny never quit and made the Bucks work to finish it off.
I love seeing the team challenged. I'm not up in arms about regular season showings, because the more adversity, the better.

believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 10, 2011 4:30am
Perhaps but the Buckeyes can't run the Big 10 gauntlet like this and come out unscathed. They'll lose one or two before March Madness arrives.hoops23;631830 wrote:Yes, it was a great showing.
The fact that the Bucks controlled the game from tip and even built a lead as big as 18, despite allowing Minny a late comeback, is still a great showing.
The team is still fairly young and let's face it, they haven't really been tested. They're used to building big leads and keeping them, but Minny never quit and made the Bucks work to finish it off.
I love seeing the team challenged. I'm not up in arms about regular season showings, because the more adversity, the better.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 10, 2011 8:45am
You think it is great to almost blow an 18 point lead at home?The fact that the Bucks controlled the game from tip and even built a lead as big as 18, despite allowing Minny a late comeback, is still a great showing.
Lighty-5 years in the programThe team is still fairly young and let's face it,
Diebler-4 years in the program
Buford-3 years in the program
Lauderdale-4 years in the program
This is one of more experienced teams in the country.
This was the problem. Their inability to hit critical free throws allowed Minny to stay around. They didn't finish Minny off, Minny ran out of time.but Minny never quit and made the Bucks work to finish it off.
From the Dispatch:"they had all seven of their second-half turnovers in the final 8:03 and missed half of the 14 free throws they attempted in the last 6:32."
This is why I didn't like OSU's OOC schedule. As I posted, I hope the Buckeyes learned that good teams don't shrivel and go away when faced with a double digit deficit.because the more adversity, the better.

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 10, 2011 9:24am
believer;631840 wrote:Perhaps but the Buckeyes can't run the Big 10 gauntlet like this and come out unscathed. They'll lose one or two before March Madness arrives.
I don't think anyone realistically expects them to not lose 1-2 (or more) in the Big 10.

CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Jan 10, 2011 10:41am
Interesting game to go to. People are aware that noise is allowed to be made right? It picked up a little bit in the 2nd half when the game got close, but the start of the game was like we were all watching a movie and trying to be polite to one another.
Overall though, this game was exactly the reason why a weak OOC schedule hurts you. Nobody wanted to admit that it mattered but good teams don't just die when they are down like the pathetic OOC teams did. Little too close for comfort I'm sure for OSU fans.
Overall though, this game was exactly the reason why a weak OOC schedule hurts you. Nobody wanted to admit that it mattered but good teams don't just die when they are down like the pathetic OOC teams did. Little too close for comfort I'm sure for OSU fans.

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 10, 2011 10:48am
That's one way to spin it, and I won't say that you are wrong.CinciX12;631973 wrote:Interesting game to go to. People are aware that noise is allowed to be made right? It picked up a little bit in the 2nd half when the game got close, but the start of the game was like we were all watching a movie and trying to be polite to one another.
Overall though, this game was exactly the reason why a weak OOC schedule hurts you. Nobody wanted to admit that it mattered but good teams don't just die when they are down like the pathetic OOC teams did. Little too close for comfort I'm sure for OSU fans.
However, I don't think the OOC schedule can be used as an excuse. OSU played well for a majority of the game and just took things for granted. A game like that happens at some point regardless of who they have played. I figured Minnesota would come into Columbus and put up a fight, and that's what they did. OSU got the win, and there is no reason to not be happy.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 10, 2011 10:55am
CinciX12;631973 wrote: Overall though, this game was exactly the reason why a weak OOC schedule hurts you. Nobody wanted to admit that it mattered but good teams don't just die when they are down like the pathetic OOC teams did. Little too close for comfort I'm sure for OSU fans.
Bullshit. This game had nothing to do with the OOC schedule. OSU was up 18pts with around 9 min to go. They held Minny to 22 pts in the first half and put on a clinic defensively. They just got passive the last 9 min and foul trouble also hurt them. Lighty was on the bench and Minny didn't miss FT.
You did see all the upsets of ranked teams on Sat? Duke "only" beat Maryland by 7pts. Kansas had to go into overtime to beat a NOT so good Michigan team.
Its that time of year pal. Teams now know eachother through scouting and conference coaches know eachother very well. Its rarely going to be easy no matter who you play.
And Minny is a pretty decent and well coached team on top of it. Tubby managed the last 5/6 min as well as any coach could have.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 10, 2011 11:21am
Couldn't it be argued that they got passive because they thought Minny would lay down like the inferior teams they had beaten did?They just got passive the last 9 min and foul trouble also hurt them. Lighty was on the bench and Minny didn't miss FT.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 10, 2011 12:16pm
Prescott;632019 wrote:Couldn't it be argued that they got passive because they thought Minny would lay down like the inferior teams they had beaten did?
If you want to believe that, so be it. The inconsistancy in the officiating didn't help. Foul trouble hurt. Could be a number of things to point to. Or as I said, give Minn credit. They played the 6/7 min perfecting to get back into. Sometimes that happens as well.
And if you want to believe that, how would you explain all the upsets and others games that were close? Did they not play a tough enough schedule as well? Did you expect OSU to BLOW out a quality Minny team? If so, then maybe you are being unrealistic about conference play.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 10, 2011 12:47pm
Which games are you referring to?And if you want to believe that, how would you explain all the upsets and others games that were close? Did they not play a tough enough schedule as well? Did you expect OSU to BLOW out a quality Minny team? If so, then maybe you are being unrealistic about conference play.
I was not expecting OSU to blow out Minny. I did expect OSU to finish the game and they didn't.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 10, 2011 1:25pm
I was disappointed that Ohio State didn't put their foot on Minnesota's throat and finish the game when they were up big, especially at home. With that said, all three of the top three teams in the country struggled to win yesterday. Duke won a close game against unranked 10-5 Maryland and Kansas needed overtime to top 11-5 unranked Michigan. Those things happen. Better to win in a less-than-impressive fashion than lose.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 10, 2011 1:35pm
Prescott;632150 wrote:Which games are you referring to?
I was not expecting OSU to blow out Minny. I did expect OSU to finish the game and they didn't.
Actually, they did (finish). They won.
Despite all the bad things that happened (the refs calling half the total fouls OSU had in the game during that last 7 minutes), the turnovers, the poor foul shooting, they STILL found a way to win at the end.
Not the type of game I would have liked, but I'll take it. During a long, grueling conference schedule you ARE going to have games like this, home and away. Better to get through it and win, than lose.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Jan 10, 2011 1:56pm
I did not see any of the Duke game. The score indicates a close contest and not a game in which Duke blew a huge lead. Kansas won on the road.Duke won a close game against unranked 10-5 Maryland and Kansas needed overtime to top 11-5 unranked Michigan
We can agree to disagree. They didn't finish off the opponent. They survived.Actually, they did (finish). They won.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 10, 2011 2:01pm
Prescott;632150 wrote:Which games are you referring to?
I was not expecting OSU to blow out Minny. I did expect OSU to finish the game and they didn't.
Which games referring to? Were you awake on Sat when like 7/8 ranked teams went down?
Was I a bit disappointed in how OSU finished the game? Absolutely. As was Matta I am sure. But its sports, and it happens. Minny was playing with a sense of urgency and they were in attack mode. OSU got a bit complacent and again, the officiating didn't help out. May sound like I am whining....but they were poor. Minny got a majority of calls. OSU was being aggressive defensively and fouls that are not typically fouls in big ten play, were being called. Minny went to the line, and rarely missed. And on the other end, OSU couldn't get a break. Lighty was litterally thrown to the floor on a drive, no call. On the other end, he strips the ball cleanly, its a foul. That right there, was a 4pt turnaround. The officials were poor, and Matta, in a very "nice" way, said as much on his radio interview after the game.
Again, its a win, and a good win vs a quality team. It wasn't pretty the last 8 min...no question.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 10, 2011 2:13pm
Kansas was up 25-10 late in first half. Mich shot like 15% in first half. Road game? LOL Sorry, lame ....Michigan is NOT very good, and played even worse the first half.Prescott;632252 wrote:I did not see any of the Duke game. The score indicates a close contest and not a game in which Duke blew a huge lead. Kansas won on the road.
We can agree to disagree. They didn't finish off the opponent. They survived.
OSU survive? Absolutely they did. And sometimes in conference play, thats what you do.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 10, 2011 2:18pm
Prescott;631889 wrote:
Lighty-5 years in the program
Diebler-4 years in the program
Buford-3 years in the program
Lauderdale-4 years in the program
This is one of more experienced teams in the country..
Sullinger- first year in program- 36 minutes
Craft- first year in program- 34 minutes