shook_17;1024446 wrote:i thought about that too. if that does happen it allows claborne and blackmon to possibly slide to us.

BR1986FB;1024443 wrote:Sorry, that bullshit's out the window. After Holmgren made his "5 wins is unacceptable" comment before THIS season he put himself on the clock. It most certainly HAS to be a "WE GOTTA WIN NOW" mentality. The fan base isn't buying that fucking "process" shit anymore.

BR1986FB;1024454 wrote:If Holmgren/Heckert fall in love with RG3 it wouldn't surprise me to see a trade UP. They wanted to do it for Bradford.

like_that;1024456 wrote:Gotta love how he says that, but they didnt try to sign anyone at all that could have at least helped the team improve on 5 wins.

BR1986FB;1024454 wrote:If Holmgren/Heckert fall in love with RG3 it wouldn't surprise me to see a trade UP. They wanted to do it for Bradford.

like_that;1024459 wrote:That would be completely fucking stupid. Trade up 2 spots? No way in hell Holmgren/Heckert are that dumb.

Pick6;1024464 wrote:I'm betting they are glad they didnt. He had a solid year last season, but looks horrible this year. Can't use the excuse that he doesn't have any weapons. He has Jackson and Brandon Lloyd.

DeyDurkie5;1024460 wrote:they are patient and are building a team. its not a win now mentality, it's a actually draft good, and see what we have mentality. and it's going to build a winner.

DeyDurkie5;1024460 wrote:they are patient and are building a team. its not a win now mentality, it's a actually draft good, and see what we have mentality. and it's going to build a winner.

BR1986FB;1024467 wrote:Not a stretch if they deem RG3, or someone else, their difference maker.

BR1986FB;1024470 wrote:Sorry but they are going to have to pick up their skirts. Holmgren will be in year 3 of his 5 year deal. If this team isn't at least .500 or better, even with a much tougher schedule, Holmgren is going to start to feel heat.

like_that;1024474 wrote: Not worth it to move up 2 slots, sorry. Especially since I know the Rams will be asking for both first round picks.

BR1986FB;1024478 wrote:I agree with both points. Just saying I wouldn't be surprised if they did it. And if they did, they had better go hog wild in free agency because the picks will be depleted.

like_that;1024480 wrote:I would be surprise to be honest. I just think its pretty apparent how dumb that is considering the amount of needs this team has.

shook_17;1024485 wrote:side note. i was really looking forward to burfect to play tonight, never watched him play, and looks like its going to be hit n miss tonight..

dazedconfused;1024499 wrote:dude's a loose cannon - ndamakong suh syndrome. he'll definitely be a league leader in personal foul penalties

shook_17;1024507 wrote:i think our defense needs that to an extent. im 21 obviously don't remember much before 99 but since iver been watching i have never seen a lb with attitude in cleveland, somebody to go high tempo and strike fear into the defense.

IggyPride00;1024511 wrote:RGIII is a total nonfit for a Shurmur led Browns team.

He had a heart attack at the thought of letting McCoy operate out of the gun more (which he is more comfortable in) because it is not part of his system.

He would chain Griffin under Mack's ass in adherence to his system, and it would be a disaster.

I would like Griffin, but without an innovative offensive mind committed to maximizing his talents instead of chaining his hands under the center's ass it is a waste of a draft pick to take him.

This is where Shurmur's rigid inflexibility is debilitating to an organization.

Commander of Awesome;1024666 wrote:I must say guys, I've watched Burfect play 3 times season and have yet to see him make a wow play. Tonight he couldn't shed a block, saw him whiff on 2 tackles and get a personal foul penalty. You get benched in your bowl game, not a good sign.