Former Browns RB Chris Jennings was cut by the Jets recently. In his haste to return to Ohio he was pulled over doing 147 mph with a suspended license. LOL

So the Bears cut DT Marcus Harrison. Both the Browns & Panthers put in a waiver claim on Harrison and the Panthers were awarded him due to their record. Harrison failed his physical with Carolina and now he may be coming to the Browns? Not sure I like the sound of that.

I always thought Chris Jennings was pretty good

Only think Jennings did was that idiotic run against the steelers that he lucked into working. He ran across the field sideways, then back the other way and somehow managed to get positive yards. Other than that, he was just a guy IMO.

BR1986FB;884090 wrote:Actually wouldn't have an issue with the Browns kicking the tires on Ross Homan for depth at LB.

He'd provide some solid depth for sure. I really think Auston English makes the roster eventually. He led the team in sacks in the preseason and was one of the few bright spots out there among the second/third-string guys.

Is LB Brandon Chillar still a FA? If so, why not give him a shot...I think he could still be good. And what's the deal with Lofa Tatupu? Heard a while back that he may have had some kind of injury but havent heard anything about it since then and wondering if he was still available?

Browns Release Depth Chart:

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OFFENSE

WR: Brian Robiskie; Greg Little (rookie); Carlton Mitchell
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Jason Pinkston (rookie); Artis Hicks
C: Alex Mack; Steve Vallos
RG: Shawn Lauvao; John Greco
RT: Tony Pashos; Oniel Cousins
TE: Benjamin Watson; Evan Moore; Alex Smith; Jordan Cameron (rookie)
WR: Mohamed Massaquoi; Joshua Cribbs; Jordan Norwood
QB: Colt McCoy; Seneca Wallace; Thaddeus Lewis
FB: Owen Marecic (rookie)
RB: Peyton Hillis; Montario Hardesty; Armond Smith (rookie)

DEFENSE

LE: Jayme Mitchell; Emmanuel Stephens
DT: Phil Taylor (rookie); Scott Paxson
DT: Ahtyba Rubin; Brian Schaefering
RE: Jabaal Sheard (rookie); Marcus Benard
SLB: Scott Fujita; Quinton Spears (rookie)
MLB: D’Qwell Jackson; Titus Brown
WLB: Chris Gocong; Kaluka Maiava
LCB: Joe Haden; Buster Skrine (rookie)
RCB: Sheldon Brown; Dimitri Patterson; James Dockery (rookie)
FS: Mike Adams; Usama Young
SS: T.J. Ward; Ray Ventrone; Eric Hagg (rookie)

SPECIAL TEAMS

P: Richmond McGee
K: Phil Dawson
Holder: McGee
PR: Cribbs; Norwood; Smith; Dockery
KR: Cribbs; Skrine; Smith; Dockery
LS: Ryan Pontbriand

http://browns.ohio.com/2011/09/browns-release-depth-chart-heading-into-week-1/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ohiocombrownsblog+%28Cleveland+Browns%29

No back up LT?

Browns are 29th on ESPN's power rankings...not sure I buy them being the 4th worst team right now..but oh well, it's meaningless.

BSPN's Power Rankings have the Browns at 29. Considering last season I dont have an issue with the ranking.

1 (1) Packers 10-6 Are we seeing an NFC Championship Game preview when the Packers host the Saints Thursday? (Walker)

2 (2) Patriots 14-2 I'm a little concerned how they match up against man-to-man coverage, but they are the AFC's top dogs. (Clayton)

3 (5) Steelers 12-4 QB Ben Roethlisberger could have his best statistical year in 2011. (Walker)

4 (3) Eagles 10-6 The Eagles will have new starters at four of the five offensive line positions, including at right tackle. They must keep Michael Vick upright for the season to be a success. (Fox)

5 (4) Saints 11-5 Turnover at running back gives the Saints' offense a new feel this season. (Sando)

6 (6) Falcons 13-3 The Falcons showed they're serious with the draft-day trade for Julio Jones. (Sando)

7 (7) Jets 11-5 Rex Ryan and the Jets face a tough ride back to the AFC title game. It's tough to do it three straight years. (Clayton)

8 (9) Ravens 12-4 We will find out right away where Baltimore stands in Week 1 against Pittsburgh. (Walker)

9 (8) Colts 10-6 When does Peyton Manning play, and how well can he do at the start of his season? (Kuharsky)

10 (10) Chargers 9-7 Time to turn talent and statistics into wins. Slow start and/or playoff fade are old scripts. (Kuharsky)

11 (17) Texans 6-10 Have depth at running back to compete minus (or with a limited) Arian Foster if they have to. (Kuharsky)

12 (12) Buccaneers 10-6 NFL's youngest team has one of the brightest young QBs in Josh Freeman. (Sando)

13 (13) Bears 11-5 A brutal schedule the first three weeks could lead to a slow start. (Walker)

14 (16) Cowboys 6-10 With no offseason to speak of, it might take awhile for the defensive players to get used to Rob Ryan's schemes. Once they do, the Cowboys could be scary good on defense. (Fox)

15 (11) Giants 10-6 No team suffered bigger preseason losses from an injury standpoint than the Giants, particularly in the secondary. At least they get the Redskins in Week 1. (Fox)

16 (18) Lions 6-10 The Lions (4-0) took the preseason seriously. Will it translate into the regular season? (Walker)

17 (15) Rams 7-9 Primary question is whether the Rams did enough to help Sam Bradford at WR. (Sando)

18 (14) Chiefs 10-6 It's often difficult to follow up a breakthrough season with a strong showing. That's Todd Haley's challenge. (Kuharsky)

19 (22) Jaguars 8-8 Not enough preseason progress on big issues: playmaking on offense and pass-rushing on defense. (Kuharsky)

20 (25) Vikings 6-10 Thanks to Chris Johnson, Vikes RB Adrian Peterson could be thinking dollar signs with every big rush this season. (Walker)

21 (21) Cardinals 5-11 Kevin Kolb's arrival gives the Cardinals renewed hope following a 5-11 season. (Sando)

22 (23) Raiders 8-8 Was 2010 division sweep a fluke? The Raiders need to be more consistent no matter the opponent. (Kuharsky)

23 (20) Titans 6-10 Add Chris Johnson and a healthy Kenny Britt to the mix and the offense could surprise. (Kuharsky)

24 (24) Dolphins 7-9 It amazes me that the offensive line is a problem with all the investments and work in trying to fix it. (Clayton)

25 (19) Seahawks 7-9 Decision to go with QB Tarvaris Jackson as starter has confounded NFL. (Sando)

26 (26) 49ers 6-10 49ers could have as many as six new starters on defense. (Sando)

27 (27) Broncos 4-12 Kyle Orton is better than people think. And the transition to John Fox's thinking could be too. (Kuharsky)

28 (29) Redskins 6-10 Mike Shanahan will have Rex Grossman start the season at quarterback, but in all likelihood John Beck will finish it. (Fox)

29 (28) Browns 5-11 Lack of quality depth will hurt the Browns. (Walker)

30 (31) Bills 4-12 The Bills look better stopping the run, but their defense will struggle against passing teams. (Clayton)

31 (30) Panthers 2-14 Panthers have an interesting mix with Steve Smith, Jeremy Shockey and a rookie QB. (Sando)

32 (32) Bengals 4-12 Coach Marvin Lewis says the 2011 Bengals are better than the 2010 Bengals (4-12). It should be a close race. (Walker)

On the depth chart I count 26 on Off, 24 on def and 4 on ST. I think they should cut a TE and add a DL or LBer. Also I count 54 on the depth chart, wonder who gets the Axe to get team to 53. My guess looking at the roster would be a WR, I would be worried if I were Carlton Mitchell.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-09-06/cleveland-browns-team-report-mohamed-massaquoi-moves-ahead-of-joshua-cribbs

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/sportsarticle.html?feed=208459&article=9079480

Commander of Awesome;885942 wrote:BSPN's Power Rankings have the Browns at 29. Considering last season I dont have an issue with the ranking.

29 (28) Browns 5-11 Lack of quality depth will hurt the Browns. (Walker)

I'm so glad Walker is no longer covering the AFC North for ESPN. He's not covering the AFC East. I think he's a horrid beat reporter. If you ask him, the Browns have done absolutely nothing to get better.

All the "experts" are dogging on the Browns because they didn't make any big moves in free agency this offseason, Walker is one of them.

Just like some of the fans, the experts fail to see that this team has a decided plan and nothing - no critics, fan outcry, etc - is going to change that.

How the Browns go from 28th last year, to 29th to start the year boggles my mind. Stupid if you ask me. I guess it's easy as an outsider, to look at this team and say they haven't improved at all. True fans know better.

I say let everyone say that the Browns are no better than they were last year...that will work better for them anyway rather than to go ahead and say that they are already a top 15-20 team. I like being the underdog in games anyway...I can't wait to see how they look on Sunday.

I think SI.com had the Browns at #20 in their rankings. Another publication had them at #25. As mentioned, it really means nothing. Regardless of the hoopla, do you expect ANY media to give Cleveland ANY love? Especially after coming off a 5-11 season?

OhioStatePride2003;886953 wrote:If you ask him, the Browns have done absolutely nothing to get better.

What did the Browns do to get better in your opinion?

Mulva;887504 wrote:What did the Browns do to get better in your opinion?

I think the Browns had another solid draft. The only place I see them being better at than last year is having Little to throw to, imo. Maybe a little better pass rush as well.

Mulva;887504 wrote:What did the Browns do to get better in your opinion?

Well, to start with they brought in an offensive minded coach which this team hasn't had in a LONG time. They team also isn't scared shitless of this coach because he's a tyrant (Mangini).

In a nutshell, by getting younger they got better.

Mulva;887504 wrote:What did the Browns do to get better in your opinion?

Implementing an offense that is friendly for the personel that we have, especially Colt.

TigerNation10;887539 wrote:Implementing an offense that is friendly for the personel that we have, especially Colt.

I agree with that, but it's still on the players to execute. The system only does so much.

In my opinion banking on the progression of younger players doesn't really constitute the team doing anything to get better. If Colt doesn't show the improvement that a lot of people are expecting/hoping for this is going to be a 4-5 win team again, which would mean the #29 ranking is pretty accurate.

I know they have "a plan", but they basically stood pat in the off-season so I completely understand where the reasoning that they didn't do anything to get better would come from.

Mulva;887504 wrote:What did the Browns do to get better in your opinion?

Addition by subtraction(Mangini/Daboll). They picked up 2 defensive starters in the draft, as well a WR that is 1st round talent.

Mulva;887573 wrote:I agree with that, but it's still on the players to execute. The system only does so much.

In my opinion banking on the progression of younger players doesn't really constitute the team doing anything to get better. If Colt doesn't show the improvement that a lot of people are expecting/hoping for this is going to be a 4-5 win team again, which would mean the #29 ranking is pretty accurate.

I know they have "a plan", but they basically stood pat in the off-season so I completely understand where the reasoning that they didn't do anything to get better would come from.

overpaying for aging vets isn't a way to get better. You get better through the draft. Also the offseason is light years ahead of Brian Dumboll's joke of a system. If you dont think a system doesn't help than we can't continue the discussion.

Pashos out of the boot and back at practice...

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/offensive-line-getting-healthy-shaping-up-for-browns/#.TmkTeWwNpv0.facebook

Mulva;887573 wrote:I agree with that, but it's still on the players to execute. The system only does so much.

In my opinion banking on the progression of younger players doesn't really constitute the team doing anything to get better. If Colt doesn't show the improvement that a lot of people are expecting/hoping for this is going to be a 4-5 win team again, which would mean the #29 ranking is pretty accurate.

I know they have "a plan", but they basically stood pat in the off-season so I completely understand where the reasoning that they didn't do anything to get better would come from.

You're right, but the system works for these players to execute. Do you think that Robiskie and Massaquoi would be starters on any other team in the NFL? Probably not. But they're both really young, and better suited for the WCO, thus the reason the FO didn't go after any WRs this offseason.

The Browns are doing, essentially, the same thing the Green Bay Packers did in the years building up to their Super Bowl win. They're following their plan, which I know doesn't mean much to you apparently, but part of that plan was getting rid of an incompetent coach in Eric Mangini, and bringing in Pat Shurmur - that right there instantly makes them a better team.

I understand that Shurmur has never been a head coach, but the vibe around the Browns locker room is that the players would play for Shurmur every single day of the week and twice on Sunday. The players, from everything I read, built up a resenment towards Mangini last year.

Instead of taking the giant steps backwards that we're use to seeing this team take, they've moved forward. Do you honestly think, that Derek Anderson or Jake Delhomme or Brady Quinn, would've taken on a leadership role during the lockout the way that McCoy has?

The players on this team, have made the Browns better. Maybe they've yet to prove it, but there's more hope and reason to believe in this team than any of the Browns other teams since their return.

If the Browns are a 4-5 win team again this year, it's probably going to have more to do with the team being unable to overcome injuries as opposed to McCoy's improvement this year. You look at the Brown's schedule, and I honestly believe that they are better than 9 - maybe 10 - of the teams they face this year.

I'm not saying they'll win 9-10 games, I know that's not likely to happen. Injuries are going to play a huge part as well as depth. The product on the field is going to be better than in years past. Now, the back-ups are going to be leaned on a lot this year, and that's not going to play well in our favor. But they are no worse than what we had on the field last year.

se-alum;887586 wrote:Addition by subtraction(Mangini/Daboll). They picked up 2 defensive starters in the draft, as well a WR that is 1st round talent.

This question was asked to me, and I didn't even have to answer it! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that this team is better than last year's!

se-alum;887586 wrote:Addition by subtraction(Mangini/Daboll). They picked up 2 defensive starters in the draft, as well a WR that is 1st round talent.

Every team expects to get better through the draft, and there's no way to tell whether they've actually improved anything before they've even played a game. I think Little could be a stud and Taylor will be solid, but they haven't proven anything yet.

Commander of Awesome;887589 wrote:overpaying for aging vets isn't a way to get better. You get better through the draft. Also the offseason is light years ahead of Brian Dumboll's joke of a system. If you dont think a system doesn't help than we can't continue the discussion.

You need a combination of both to get better. And when did every free agent become an "aging vet"?

Also, if you think you can declare a system as "better" or a coach who has 0 head coaching experience as "better" before a single game has been played then we can't continue the discussion. I think the system should be better, because it would be difficult to go anywhere but up from Daboll, but that doesn't mean shit if the Browns finish 28th in total offense and 30th in scoring.

I don't see any marked improvement on this roster, outside of hopefully McCoy and Little, but I guess we shall see. I'm not upset about that because I understand it's a building process, I just don't think someone's opinion is discredited because they put the Browns 29th in the power rankings.

I think this team is better than last years, but I don't really see anything better than 6-7 wins.

The biggest difference will be the games will actually be competitive and the offense will be at least somewhat competent, which will be more enjoyable to watch.