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Jester

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Wed, Jan 19, 2011 11:56 PM Jan 19, 2011 11:56 PM

Browns expected to name Bill Musgrave as their offensive coordinator.

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/20175/20110119/browns_expected_to_name_musgrave_o_coordinator/

Never heard of the dude, but I don't exactly pay attention to coordinator's all that much. Anyone have some insight on him?

Jan 19, 2011 11:56pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:09 AM Jan 20, 2011 12:09 AM

Musgrave was hired by the Vikings

Jan 20, 2011 12:09am

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:13 AM Jan 20, 2011 12:13 AM

^^

Yeah, somebody Tweeted that Musgrave was signed earlier, and I bit on it, only to find out he ended up signing with the Vikes. It's not going to be easy finding an OC that wants the OC duties minus the play calling, since Shurmur is going to call the plays.

Jan 20, 2011 12:13am

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 12:15 AM Jan 20, 2011 12:15 AM

Well, ignore my post then.. lol

SMH. Maybe if I had looked two headlines above me I would have saw that he was already signed with the Vikings. Fail on my part.

Jan 20, 2011 12:15am

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:50 AM Jan 20, 2011 10:50 AM

Mark Whipple

Jan 20, 2011 10:50am

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:14 AM Jan 20, 2011 11:14 AM

Whipple for OC? lol I can see the signs now when our offense sucks.

Jan 20, 2011 11:14am

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 11:56 AM Jan 20, 2011 11:56 AM

Like DaBrowns said earlier, with Shurmur stating that he is going to start out calling the plays it will be tough to get an experienced OC to come here. Odds are, it is going to be someone like Whipple, that is a QB coach that would take the promotion, and maybe in a year or two take over the play calling duties.

Also, what are the chances the Browns will pursue James or Jacoby Jones this offseason? Both are UFAs. If either one could be had, would it lessen the need to take Green if he is on the board at #6 and instead get a pass rushing DE to play in the 4-3? Or one of the 2 CB's that appear to be top 10 worthy?

Jan 20, 2011 11:56am

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 1:21 PM Jan 20, 2011 1:21 PM

This mock has Green taken by the Bengals, with the Browns taking Robert Quinn from UNC

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/20/updated-nfl-mock-draft-12011/

Mehh

Jan 20, 2011 1:21pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 1:35 PM Jan 20, 2011 1:35 PM

If the Bengals do let Ocho Cinco and Owens leave, they will desperately be in need of a #1, so that pick would make sense.

Jan 20, 2011 1:35pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 1:41 PM Jan 20, 2011 1:41 PM

Id like the Browns to take either: Green; Amukamara; or Peterson.

Jan 20, 2011 1:41pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 2:35 PM Jan 20, 2011 2:35 PM

SportsAndLady;645461 wrote:This mock has Green taken by the Bengals, with the Browns taking Robert Quinn from UNC

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/20/updated-nfl-mock-draft-12011/

Mehh

the only thing that scares me about quinn is the fact that he's been away from football for so long because of the suspension...but we definitely need help on the dline

Jan 20, 2011 2:35pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:10 PM Jan 20, 2011 3:10 PM

thedynasty1998;645499 wrote:If the Bengals do let Ocho Cinco and Owens leave, they will desperately be in need of a #1, so that pick would make sense.

Desperately? They seemed to be ok with out either at the end of the season. I think they have a solid WR core without either TO or Ocho.

Jan 20, 2011 3:10pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:21 PM Jan 20, 2011 3:21 PM

dazedconfused;645616 wrote:the only thing that scares me about quinn is the fact that he's been away from football for so long because of the suspension...but we definitely need help on the dline

If Quinn has a good head on his shoulders he'll be fine IMO.

Look at Mike Williams. Headcase, outta football for 2 years, got his head straight, and now he's a solid, if not good, WR.

Jan 20, 2011 3:21pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:35 PM Jan 20, 2011 3:35 PM

well no matter who we get, its gonna fill any need. and will be a major upgrade. hopefully we can get a legit number 1 in free agency

Jan 20, 2011 3:35pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 3:39 PM Jan 20, 2011 3:39 PM

I like Jacoby Jones as far as potential goes. But he dropped a ton of passes this year. He has size and speed, but has concetration problems. Maybe it will pass and he will become a stud. It wouldn't hurt to take a look at him.

Jan 20, 2011 3:39pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:33 PM Jan 20, 2011 4:33 PM

lhslep134;645683 wrote:If Quinn has a good head on his shoulders he'll be fine IMO.

Look at Mike Williams. Headcase, outta football for 2 years, got his head straight, and now he's a solid, if not good, WR.

The #5 pick in the draft better not be "solid, if not good"

Jan 20, 2011 4:33pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 4:35 PM Jan 20, 2011 4:35 PM

Commander of Awesome;645666 wrote:Desperately? They seemed to be ok with out either at the end of the season. I think they have a solid WR core without either TO or Ocho.

In his defense, the Browns won the last 4 games last year, so they seemed to be okay with their WR corps...which we all know was definitely not true.

Jan 20, 2011 4:35pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:02 PM Jan 20, 2011 5:02 PM

royal_k;645702 wrote:I like Jacoby Jones as far as potential goes. But he dropped a ton of passes this year. He has size and speed, but has concetration problems. Maybe it will pass and he will become a stud. It wouldn't hurt to take a look at him.

Are you describing Braylon Edwards or Jacoby Jones?

Jan 20, 2011 5:02pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:07 PM Jan 20, 2011 5:07 PM

SportsAndLady;645755 wrote:The #5 pick in the draft better not be "solid, if not good"

Quinns skillset >>>> Mike Williams skillset

Just using the comparison for a psychological comparison (not that it's an accurate one, who the hell knows what's going on in Quinn's head).

Jan 20, 2011 5:07pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 5:56 PM Jan 20, 2011 5:56 PM

SportsAndLady;645759 wrote:In his defense, the Browns won the last 4 games last year, so they seemed to be okay with their WR corps...which we all know was definitely not true.

Browns won running the ball, The bengals put insane passing stats to end the season. Bit of a difference. Nice analogy fail.

Jan 20, 2011 5:56pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 6:02 PM Jan 20, 2011 6:02 PM

Commander of Awesome;645873 wrote:Browns won running the ball, The bengals put insane passing stats to end the season. Bit of a difference. Nice analogy fail.

Still, while their receivers played well, none of them are any better than a #2 receiver. Getting Green would be great because he could be groomed for a season before having to make a huge impact. TO won't be back. Ocho may not even be back.

Jan 20, 2011 6:02pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 7:52 PM Jan 20, 2011 7:52 PM

They also need a QB, Palmer sucks, and is done. Bengal fans can thank kemo von ofhoffen (sp?)

Jan 20, 2011 7:52pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:44 PM Jan 20, 2011 8:44 PM

Commander of Awesome;645873 wrote:The bengals put insane passing stats to end the season. Bit of a difference. Nice analogy fail.

Commander of Awesome;645967 wrote:They also need a QB, Palmer sucks, and is done.

Which one is it? They put up good numbers at the end of the season, so the receivers are good enough? But Palmer sucks and is done?

Care to elaborate why WR core would be sufficient due to their production the last four games, yet Palmer isn't?

Jan 20, 2011 8:44pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:48 PM Jan 20, 2011 8:48 PM

thedynasty1998;645499 wrote:If the Bengals do let Ocho Cinco and Owens leave, they will desperately be in need of a #1, so that pick would make sense.

"If the colts got rid of peyton manning, they would be in need of a qb." Come on dynasty, that was a weak post.

As far as someone saying jacoby jones solves our receiver problems, go jump off a building. Getting jones would only be beneficial if we actually got a number 1 receiver to pair him with.

Jan 20, 2011 8:48pm

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 8:50 PM Jan 20, 2011 8:50 PM

DeyDurkie5;646063 wrote:"If the colts got rid of peyton manning, they would be in need of a qb." Come on dynasty, that was a weak post.

As far as someone saying jacoby jones solves our receiver problems, go jump off a building. Getting jones would only be beneficial if we actually got a number 1 receiver to pair him with.

This was the first mock draft I've seen with the Bengals taking a WR though. And no one knows what they are going to do with Ocho Cinco. If they do take a WR, the writing is on the wall for Ocho Cinco. However, if they keep him for another year, I would think they would hold off on a WR with their 1st round pick.

Jan 20, 2011 8:50pm