ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Dec 2, 2009 7:49pm
I come off as a pompous jerk to you because I use reason and logic to back claims. You obviously aren't used to that. Things in life are not so cut and dry despite how badly you wish they were.Rocket08 wrote:Once again, just because you disagree with something, does not that the point is without merit. You do, however, look like a pompous jerk.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:It has nothing to do with liking what he said or not. Massillon's decline happened long before their last state title in 1970. The majority of their titles were in the 40's and 50's when they won 18 of their 22. They only won 4 in the 60's and 70's combined. They only won in 70 b/c they had an exception class of athletes. Same reason for when they make it to the title games in the 70's-today.. only when they have an exceptional class. The population decline and job loss started in the 60's. It wasn't the booming post WWII steel town of the 40's and 50's anymore.Rocket08 wrote:
The post isn't illogical. Just because you don't like what he said, doesn't make it illogical.
It's also an excellent point that Massillon won bunches of titles on paper, but in nearly 40 years of OHSAA playoffs couldn't win just 1 on the field.
You claim a title in 1970. The playoffs started in 1972. The city didn't fade away in 2 years
It's an interesting point that Massillon has never won a State Championship on the field. Like it or not
It's not an interesting point b/c its two different eras.. lets try to use our brain through the rest of this thread shall we?
The first line of my original post stated that these titles occurred over 40 years ago, and in a couple of cases close to 90 years ago. Who really cares except a bunch of old All American Conference guys with 1 foot in the grave and Massillon residents with nothing else to talk about?
During your lifetime, Massillon hasn't won a thing. No matter how loud you try to dismiss the messenger, the message remains: NO TITLES ON THE FIELD, EVER, NEVER
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 7:59pm
hehe............everyone to their corners..........These are ppl opinions. We cant take your lil titles away!! So they are safe. Id root for Massillon in a championship game against most any school in DI. I always pull for public schools, especially ones close by.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Dec 2, 2009 8:01pm
This is why Big Al Carter did not succeed, and why you Dover people will fail as well.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
I come off as a pompous jerk to you because I use reason and logic to back claims. You obviously aren't used to that. Things in life are not so cut and dry despite how badly you wish they were.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 8:08pm
Ok then Coyotes00............Im Ok with your opinion.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Dec 2, 2009 8:10pm
We need to start counting the poll title in 1972 (ignore that nonsense that Warren Harding won it on the field). the Tigers have 23 titles
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 2, 2009 8:12pm
I told him to make the thread if he felt he must..that way..if people want to discuss it..they can do it on here..that way..for those that don't want to read about it..they don't have to click on it..b/c this argument is not going to happen in any other threads. It will be deleted if it does. So I figured this way they could at least have there one thread to talk about this stupid crap.coyotes22 wrote: This entire thread needs deleted. Is not false accusations under Rule #3.
Which one am I? :huh:coyotes22 wrote: And I love ALL THE NON-MASSILLON people bringing up OUR TITLES!!!! NOT Massillon people!!!! Thus furthers OUR point, that we do not brag, but, have to rather defend our titles.
And like I said..this is the only thread you'll have to worry about it on..it will NOT be like it was on JJ's. I can promise you that. Every Massillon thread is not going to be turned into a discussion about the Championships.coyotes22 wrote: Nope, will not bash. Just think that this forum is getting worse than JJ's football forums EVER were. Nice to see that we can come to a place and discuss football. This is ridiculous.
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ridgerunner88
Posts: 229
Dec 2, 2009 8:18pm
Go Chiefs, you're the number 2 poster on this thread.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 2, 2009 8:20pm
And? That's what the thread is about isn't it??? Did I post anywhere where I had a problem with people discussing it? No..I just said it wasn't going to happen in every thread.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 8:21pm
chiefs, it isnt just me............alot of ppl posting here. im being pretty civil and tried to lighten the mood even. I have my opinion on this and it wont change, but i dont get too worked up. Coyotes00 is too sensitive apparently. Big Red throws smack at ya till the moon freezes over. I dont wanna run ppl off or make them draw comparisons to JJHuddle. I lived in GA for 10 years and they bragged bout their HS football. I said, well you have heard of the MASSILLON TIGERS, right? and most of them had.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 8:23pm
Thats because everytime I post here, Chiefs has to come here to slap my wrist with his ruler. Keep me in line. He just doing his job.ridgerunner88 wrote: Go Chiefs, you're the number 2 poster on this thread.
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ridgerunner88
Posts: 229
Dec 2, 2009 8:24pm
And nothing......got a chuckle out of you calling this "their thread", no need to get defensive.....GoChiefs wrote: And? That's what the thread is about isn't it??? Did I post anywhere where I had a problem with people discussing it? No..I just said it wasn't going to happen in every thread.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 2, 2009 8:26pm
Commenting on your post and discussing the topic is 'slapping you on the wrist'? Umm..ok.september63 wrote: Thats because everytime I post here, Chiefs has to come here to slap my wrist with his ruler. Keep me in line. He just doing his job.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 2, 2009 8:27pm
Not getting defensive at all..no worries..was just sayin'..but I didn't start the thread..so it isn't my thread..so..it must be 'their' thread is it not?ridgerunner88 wrote:
And nothing......got a chuckle out of you calling this "their thread", no need to get defensive.....
skank
Posts: 6,543
Dec 2, 2009 8:32pm
Sept63, you have 25 posts on this thread, I know you started it, but 25? I mean, I know Dover football is pretty boring and to get excitement you have to post on a Massillon thread, but 25?
J-Dover
Posts: 234
Dec 2, 2009 8:33pm
GO DOVER!!!! I bet next year we could beat the tigers
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Dec 2, 2009 8:34pm
Then can you please go through and edit my "Thank you Massillon" thread?GoChiefs wrote:And like I said..this is the only thread you'll have to worry about it on..it will NOT be like it was on JJ's. I can promise you that. Every Massillon thread is not going to be turned into a discussion about the Championships.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 2, 2009 8:35pm
Done..I thought I had already done that?coyotes22 wrote: Then can you please go through and edit my "Thank you Massillon" thread?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Dec 2, 2009 8:36pm
Ok, let's get serious now.J-Dover wrote: GO DOVER!!!! I bet next year we could beat the tigers
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 8:36pm
26 now!! BTW, I certainly didnt mind you opening your Dover Football, Does it stink thread!! Its all in fun and all just our opinions!! Actually you showed a good give and take doing that. Whisper in ur Coyotes00 ear, dont take this stuff so personally. Because as long as I know I am being called a-hole and such, Ill keep right on going.
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NOL fan
Posts: 376
Dec 2, 2009 8:41pm
I'm going to respond to this with a long post I once made on NOSF, however, I'll put in in the Pro Sports forumseptember63 wrote: Have the Cleveland Browns ever won anything? The answer to 99% of football fans is, NO!! because no one really counts their championships before the Super Bowl era. You never hear the Browns boast about titles won in different times. To us all, they are one of a hanfdull of teams to have never played in the Super Bowl.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 8:45pm
Good. Then I wont have to read it!! LOL
skank
Posts: 6,543
Dec 2, 2009 8:50pm
I didn't call anyone names, not my style, but....If it walks like a duck....september63 wrote: 26 now!! BTW, I certainly didnt mind you opening your Dover Football, Does it stink thread!! Its all in fun and all just our opinions!! Actually you showed a good give and take doing that. Whisper in ur Coyotes00 ear, dont take this stuff so personally. [size=xx-large]Because as long as I know I am being called a-hole and such, Ill keep right on going.[/size]
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NOL fan
Posts: 376
Dec 2, 2009 8:52pm
question for you then, of the 27 world series titles the Yankees have won, how many do they get to count?september63 wrote: Good. Then I wont have to read it!! LOL
skank
Posts: 6,543
Dec 2, 2009 8:53pm
Thanks, I just spit coke all over my keyboard. I have already told you to have your AD call our AD, and set it up. Please week nine though, we always like a breather before McKinley.J-Dover wrote: GO DOVER!!!! I bet next year we could beat the tigers
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 2, 2009 8:56pm
Umm. Every one of them was won on the field. AP Sportwriters didnt just give them a World Series Championship because they had the best regular season record!! Really now, Is that all you have? Or because their city had the best reputation from past seasons!!