B
Be Nice
Posts: 1,120
Dec 26, 2010 6:22pm
for our country?
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Dec 26, 2010 6:30pm
ILLEGAL immigrants BAD. LEGAL immigrants are GOOD.
B
Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Dec 26, 2010 7:19pm
Good. Clean hotel rooms and mow grass. Pay taxes yet do not collect anything back. Open the boarders need more.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 26, 2010 7:29pm
I suggest a mod move this to where it belongs, the Politics forum.
B
Be Nice
Posts: 1,120
Dec 26, 2010 7:46pm
^^Why? Hell, there ain't much traffic over there.
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Dec 26, 2010 8:36pm
THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.....i like my lawn groomed inexpensively!
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 26, 2010 9:08pm
Bad.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 26, 2010 9:10pm
Good for target practice, bad for eating.
Cat Food Flambe'
Posts: 1,230
Dec 26, 2010 9:21pm
This is purely a theoretical question. There is no way we are going to be able to evict 12 to 15 million people from this country - we better learn to to deal with the situation. We'll about as much success sealing our borders as we do in the War On Drugs.
I
I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 26, 2010 9:53pm
Immigrant workers of the legal or illegal sort? Seems like your brother shouldn't be hiring those people if they aren't legal.ccrunner609;614053 wrote:pay taxes? Do you know how many illegals work under the table?
Illegals are bad for this country. They suck more resources out of our education systems, medicl facilities, local, state and federal law enforcement etc............then what they give back.
My brother employs quite a few immigrant workers and do you know what they do with alot of their money? They send it back to Mexico to other family members. How is that stimulating the US?
And I don't think it's clear cut. Obviously it is not a good thing when illegals are living and working in the US and their children are in our schools and they don't pay taxes. Worse when some of them commit crime which harms our citizens or wastes our money.
However, I think that perhaps we need a better way for people to immigrate legally so that there isn't as much of an incentive to do it illegally.
I
I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Dec 26, 2010 10:03pm
When you said your brother employs I assumed you meant he owned the business. My bad.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Dec 26, 2010 10:55pm
Bigdogg;613962 wrote:Good. Clean hotel rooms and mow grass. Pay taxes yet do not collect anything back. Open the boarders need more.
You're not serious, you can't be. Illegals cash in on a lot of government welfare programs.
B
BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Dec 27, 2010 8:26am
dwccrew;614212 wrote:You're not serious, you can't be. Illegals cash in on a lot of government welfare programs.
I'm not doubting you and I imagine your statement is grounded in the truth but perhaps you might provide a source for that claim? For instance, here is a link that addresses a popular chain email that makes false claims in regards to the use of social welfare benefits by illegal immigrants and debunks several claims suggesting "illegals cash in on a lot of government welfare programs.
www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Dec 27, 2010 8:34am
- they do pay consumer tax
- some folks are correct, ALOT of illegals live en-masse and send the most money they can back to their home country
- they do take the jobs that Americans consider beneath them and don't want (they want $15/hour to wash dishes, for example)
- they can be considered good as far as convenience goes, bad as far as "fair" goes
Those are just some of my thoughts, I will wait till this thread gets moved lol
- some folks are correct, ALOT of illegals live en-masse and send the most money they can back to their home country
- they do take the jobs that Americans consider beneath them and don't want (they want $15/hour to wash dishes, for example)
- they can be considered good as far as convenience goes, bad as far as "fair" goes
Those are just some of my thoughts, I will wait till this thread gets moved lol
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 27, 2010 8:50am
Bad. They are criminals and don't integrate into our culture. Flying Mexican flags in the street. Makes me sick.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 27, 2010 9:01am
iclfan2;614428 wrote:Bad. They are criminals and don't integrate into our culture. Flying Mexican flags in the street. Makes me sick.
Meh, that's not any different to me than people who fly Irish flags on St. Patricks day.
C
Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 27, 2010 9:01am
I think we should adopt the Mexican laws regarding immigration.
B
BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Dec 27, 2010 9:06am
iclfan2;614428 wrote:Bad. They are criminals and don't integrate into our culture. Flying Mexican flags in the street. Makes me sick.
You're from NC according to to what it it says under your Avatar. I imagine you've seen a fair amount of confederate flags in your day. How do you feel about those?
Q
queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 27, 2010 9:08am
A hard-working illegal is far less a drain on society than a lazy-ass American, something we have in huge supply.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Dec 27, 2010 9:48am
WOW….. THIS IS SIMPLE ................... the word ILLEGAL is the key to understanding.............. Wrong is wrong and no matter how you slice it Illegal Individuals are just that ILLEGAL in this country via the Constitution of the United States and the Juridical System of our Government.
The bigger problem is how do we stop the on coming flow of Illegal’s …Within our Constitution of the United States is the answer but today’s Politicians don’t follow the writing of the Constitution and that where problem one begins..
Follow the Constitution and protect our boundaries with force and with conviction to protect our country… that will be the beginning of correcting the problem and send a clear message to those who want to enter this America illegally.
The bigger problem is how do we stop the on coming flow of Illegal’s …Within our Constitution of the United States is the answer but today’s Politicians don’t follow the writing of the Constitution and that where problem one begins..
Follow the Constitution and protect our boundaries with force and with conviction to protect our country… that will be the beginning of correcting the problem and send a clear message to those who want to enter this America illegally.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 27, 2010 12:44pm
It is totally different. One is celebrating their culture on a holiday (while still being American), while the other is using it to show they are not American and never will be. I'm not talking about someone having it at their house, but when they march in the streets trying to "shut America down days" and things of that sort. Apples to Oranges.FatHobbit;614436 wrote:Meh, that's not any different to me than people who fly Irish flags on St. Patricks day.
BoatShoes;614439 wrote:You're from NC according to to what it it says under your Avatar. I imagine you've seen a fair amount of confederate flags in your day. How do you feel about those?
I'm from Ohio, live in NC. I believe people that fought in the Civil war were Americans. Wanting to remember your culture is fine, not assimilating into the new one is not.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 27, 2010 1:32pm
iclfan2;614671 wrote:It is totally different. One is celebrating their culture on a holiday (while still being American), while the other is using it to show they are not American and never will be. I'm not talking about someone having it at their house, but when they march in the streets trying to "shut America down days" and things of that sort. Apples to Oranges.
I'm from Ohio, live in NC. I believe people that fought in the Civil war were Americans. Wanting to remember your culture is fine, not assimilating into the new one is not.
What about when they fly it now?
V
vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 27, 2010 2:01pm
we're on it!!!!
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Dec 27, 2010 2:51pm
This subject bothers me because these days in our country if you say you are against illegal aliens you are considered racist.
S
Sonofanump
Dec 27, 2010 3:06pm
What's the current unemployment rate?