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HeathAlum21
Posts: 363
Dec 16, 2010 9:23pm
Laley23;603580 wrote:I question why this guy even wants a dog though???
He cant possibly be a dog guy or lover or whatever. You dont murder dogs if you are, so what would he want the responsibility of a dog for? Makes little to no sense.
I would guess that it might be an image thing. Just for the record, he stated his daughter missed having a dog too.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 16, 2010 9:26pm
HeathAlum21;603589 wrote:I would guess that it might be an image thing. Just for the record, he stated his daughter missed having a dog too.
Yeah, I would assume that he thinks by having a dog and treating it well; it will help him shed the view people have of him
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 16, 2010 9:33pm
He said he wants it as part of his rehab to continue to prove to people that the dog fighting/killing is a part of his past. He also said his daughter has asked several times and he has to explain to her why they can't have one right now.Laley23;603580 wrote:I question why this guy even wants a dog though???
He cant possibly be a dog guy or lover or whatever. You dont murder dogs if you are, so what would he want the responsibility of a dog for? Makes little to no sense.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 16, 2010 9:44pm
THE LAWS ARE THE LAWS!! He can own or even sell dogs during the year 2012.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 16, 2010 9:47pm
september63;603625 wrote:THE LAWS ARE THE LAWS!! He can own or even sell dogs during the year 2012.
That wasnt talked abotu at all on the first page or the very poll itself , dont worry
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 16, 2010 10:23pm
Mulva;603286 wrote:His sentence includes a lifetime ban on owning a dog. It doesn't expire with his probation.
It wasnt?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 16, 2010 10:30pm
september63;603672 wrote:It wasnt?
Pretty sure Hb's post was a sarcastic one.
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outdoorsman
Posts: 417
Dec 16, 2010 10:33pm
Give me a break. Get a foster child and make a difference. The only dog that should get close to him, is one that is chasing him.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 16, 2010 11:18pm
Ironman92;603473 wrote:He lost $100 million dollars for what he did to dogs........I'm guessing he's totally learned his lesson. He's been an upstanding citizen and the grand poobah of PETA is one of his biggest fans.
If he wants a dog...he should be able to own a dog.......what other way can he show closure to what he did and how he has redone his life?
I'm not buying it.
To do the horrible, cruel things he did, without blinking an eye, apparently, you have to be some kind of sociopath. Basically, without a soul and a conscience.
I hope they don't let him near ANY animals in his lifetime. I don't think people who do this stuff really change. Ever.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 16, 2010 11:37pm
To do the things he did, you could also just be joe schmoe who likes to kill animals for sport. Aka hunting
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 16, 2010 11:53pm
Hb31187;603738 wrote:To do the things he did, you could also just be joe schmoe who likes to kill animals for sport. Aka hunting
BS. Hunters don't torture the animals before killing them -- and most hunters use what they kill for food. Vick did horrible and cruel things to those dogs; the kind of stuff psychopaths and budding serial killers do.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 17, 2010 12:00am
Most hunters eat what they kill? LOL dont kid yourself, many hunters just go hunting for the trophy on the mantle or in their den haha.
And shooting an animal, running following the blood trail and then slicing the neck or finishing it off when you get to it is so much more humane? Gimme a break, its killing all the same. Only difference is teh general public dont have an obsession with deer, hogs, ect like they do with dogs.
And shooting an animal, running following the blood trail and then slicing the neck or finishing it off when you get to it is so much more humane? Gimme a break, its killing all the same. Only difference is teh general public dont have an obsession with deer, hogs, ect like they do with dogs.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 17, 2010 12:13am
Maybe they should let child molesters teach 2nd grade once they get out of prison, as long as they promise they won't do it again and that 'no one ever told them it was the wrong thing to do'.
I didn't want to miss out on the 'Let's make horrible comparisons' game.
I didn't want to miss out on the 'Let's make horrible comparisons' game.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 17, 2010 12:16am
Uhhhh?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 17, 2010 1:29am
Writerbuckeye;603750 wrote:BS. Hunters don't torture the animals before killing them -- and most hunters use what they kill for food. Vick did horrible and cruel things to those dogs; the kind of stuff psychopaths and budding serial killers do.
Or the kinds of things that hunters who don't shoot a kill shot do to finish off the animal.
Get a clue dude. You've obviously never hunted if you think that only psychotic people do what Vick did. He saw dogs as the pawns in a game, the game of dog fighting, much like hunters see animals as the pawns in the game as well. Dog fighting is a very real thing in the South and I'd have to imagine that you can't possibly see how people can see pitbulls as that, but Vick is not an isolated individual.
Heelz
Posts: 780
Dec 17, 2010 8:21am
Maybe he should be banned from owning certain breeds of dogs like ones that are mainly used for fighting or dogs that are seen as agressive. Pit Bulls, Rotts, Doberman etc......He should only be allowed to own tea cup or toy dogs.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 17, 2010 10:56am
I'm a huge dog lover, but for the most part I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Sure what he did was wrong, but he served more time than anyone would have thought and he seems to have been humbled by his time away.
With that said, if the judge said he's not allowed to own a dog, it shouldn't even be a question. What he did was wrong and if him not being allowed to ever own a dog is part of his punishment, then that's it.
With that said, if the judge said he's not allowed to own a dog, it shouldn't even be a question. What he did was wrong and if him not being allowed to ever own a dog is part of his punishment, then that's it.
-Society-
Posts: 1,348
Dec 17, 2010 11:23am
If he can't own a dog, then Smithfield Farms shouldn't be allowed to own pigs: http://www.wvec.com/news/local/HSUS-111917554.html
Buckeyechick
Posts: 97
Dec 17, 2010 11:34am
I was watching the Dan Patrick show yesterday and I am almost positive they said that he could own a dog after his probation was up. DP was saying that he thought it would be good for Vick to learn, by watching his children, what it is to have a pet, love it etc.Laley23;603328 wrote:ESPN Radio reported today that Vick's judge said he couldnt ever own a dog again. If that isnt true, I dont know where they got their info from.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 17, 2010 11:35am
-Society-;604056 wrote:If he can't own a dog, then Smithfield Farms shouldn't be allowed to own pigs: http://www.wvec.com/news/local/HSUS-111917554.html
exactly. this argument is crazy. he did the crime, then the time, if the law allows him to own a dog i'm all for it. according to the justice system and his parole hearings he's been rehabilitated and is ready to rejoin society.
and hb, i hope you're vegetarian, because otherwise your arguments are asinine.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 17, 2010 11:40am
No I eat meat. And all my argument is , cruelty to one animal is just as bad as cruelty to another. People just put dogs on a pedestal and act like theyre more important than others
Buckeyechick
Posts: 97
Dec 17, 2010 11:42am
Writerbuckeye;603721 wrote:I'm not buying it.
To do the horrible, cruel things he did, without blinking an eye, apparently, you have to be some kind of sociopath. Basically, without a soul and a conscience.
I hope they don't let him near ANY animals in his lifetime. I don't think people who do this stuff really change. Ever.
From what I understand Vick possibly wanting a dog in the future had nothing to do with HIM wanting to own a dog, it had to do with his children wanting a dog. I mean what kid wouldn't like to have a pet? I don't think they should be punished because of their father's crime.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 17, 2010 11:43am
i don't disagree that dogs are held in much too high of a regard.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 17, 2010 11:50am
fwiw, Vick went to jail more for tax evasion than anything. Despite what media says, Im convinced of that fact.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 17, 2010 12:21pm
Totally agree. Man served his time. People are just upset because he's back in the lime light. If his skill set was anything but football, which will make him very rich again, we'd never care about him. He put his time in and is now working to get his life back on track, if he wants to get a little scooby doo for his kids i think that's fine. People hold animal abuse higher than they do human on human abuse so i can see why this is all getting blown out of proportionthedynasty1998;604018 wrote:I'm a huge dog lover, but for the most part I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Sure what he did was wrong, but he served more time than anyone would have thought and he seems to have been humbled by his time away.
With that said, if the judge said he's not allowed to own a dog, it shouldn't even be a question. What he did was wrong and if him not being allowed to ever own a dog is part of his punishment, then that's it.