Art Modell
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Dec 12, 2010 10:47pm
heel023;598594 wrote:Jamarcus Russell comes to mine
What has Carson done ?
gerb131
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Dec 12, 2010 10:51pm
Art Modell;598614 wrote:What has Carson done ?
Not been arrested?
heel023
Posts: 241
Dec 12, 2010 11:03pm
Took his team to the playoffs.
Firad
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Dec 12, 2010 11:04pm
Art Modell;598614 wrote:What has Carson done ?
Carson has made it to the playoffs twice. Russel has done absolutely nothing besides get fat, get arrested and get released after only 3 years of being drafted #1 overall. Carson hasn't done a whole lot but has done more than Russel.
Laley23
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Dec 12, 2010 11:17pm
Alex Smith is another. Tim Couch is another...
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gut
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Dec 13, 2010 12:01am
Vince Young might be looking for a team next year
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bigkahuna
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Dec 13, 2010 12:07am
Ryan Leaf...
As a Steelers fan, I have to say you can't over look his stats from his best years. There have been times, where he/the offense mimicked the "Best show on turf" from the Rams back in the early 2000s
As a Steelers fan, I have to say you can't over look his stats from his best years. There have been times, where he/the offense mimicked the "Best show on turf" from the Rams back in the early 2000s
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 13, 2010 12:11am
Couch got fucked. He was a better quarterback than his time in Cleveland showed.Laley23;598636 wrote:Alex Smith is another. Tim Couch is another...
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 13, 2010 12:13am
bigkahuna;598683 wrote:Ryan Leaf...
Leaf didnt go number 1 overall. As a Colts fan....THANK GOD!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 13, 2010 12:14am
THE4RINGZ;598689 wrote:Couch got fucked. He was a better quarterback than his time in Cleveland showed.
Agree completely. But Al asked for #1 overall picks who have done less than Carson. Despite his potential and skills, Couch does indeed fit the bill. Not his fault per se, but Carson has a much better resume.
Pick6
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Dec 13, 2010 12:16am
David Carr
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 13, 2010 12:17am
OK then JaMarcus Russell then
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 13, 2010 12:17am
But I thought Russell was.overrated in college
GoChiefs
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Dec 13, 2010 8:08am
THE4RINGZ;598700 wrote:But I thought Russell was.overrated in college
Agreed.
Ankle Breaker
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Dec 13, 2010 3:16pm
What is Palmers QB rating this year and where does it stack up against others in the league?
voewoody
Posts: 280
Dec 13, 2010 3:21pm
24th with a 78.1 rating!!!! Only in front of Mcnabb, Henne, Hasselbeck, Sanchez, Favre, DA, and Claussen.
He really makes me want to puke every week watching him. I used to be a Carson apologist but he is fucking terrible and nobody can blame his idiotic throws on the line anymore.
He really makes me want to puke every week watching him. I used to be a Carson apologist but he is fucking terrible and nobody can blame his idiotic throws on the line anymore.
Heretic
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Dec 13, 2010 3:24pm
Ankle Breaker;599509 wrote:What is Palmers QB rating this year and where does it stack up against others in the league?
78.1. His 18 picks tie him with Favre as worst in the league in that category (although Palmer has a 21-10 lead in TDs and has played one more game).
Comparable QBs to his rating are: Chad Henne, Donovan McNabb, Shaun Hill and Sam Bradford. He's ranked 24 of 31 listed QBs in this stat.
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september63
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Dec 13, 2010 3:55pm
Terrell Owens has wrecked the Bengals and Carson Palmer this season. Seems to me Carson spends most of the time making sure TO gets enough looks in a game rather than just running a productive offense. TO has ruined any momentum that offense had coming into this year.
Early Cuyler
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Dec 13, 2010 6:44pm
september63;599568 wrote:Terrell Owens has wrecked the Bengals and Carson Palmer this season. Seems to me Carson spends most of the time making sure TO gets enough looks in a game rather than just running a productive offense. TO has ruined any momentum that offense had coming into this year.
No, Carson's inability to accurately the throw the ball farther than 15 yards downfireld wrecked the Bengals this season.
heel023
Posts: 241
Dec 13, 2010 6:47pm
Terrell Owens has been one of the (if only) bright spot of this team this year.
Firad
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Dec 13, 2010 7:07pm
september63;599568 wrote:Terrell Owens has wrecked the Bengals and Carson Palmer this season. Seems to me Carson spends most of the time making sure TO gets enough looks in a game rather than just running a productive offense. TO has ruined any momentum that offense had coming into this year.
Or the fact that it will be 3rd and 10 or 3rd and 15 and Carson will continuously throw to a 3 yard route at least 5 times a game. Or that in the 4th Qrt. when the game is on the line they throw a short pass to the back up TE running the same short route 3 plays in a row when it didn't work the first or second time. Things like that are why they are terrible this year.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 13, 2010 7:20pm
Still.................Too much time is spent trying to cater to TO's ego!! He may have been a bright spot? It was because he has had so many throws his way to keep him from whining! It ruibs the flow of any offense.
He's had 139 looks and 9 drops.........................Ocho has had 122 looks and 8 drops.
He's had 139 looks and 9 drops.........................Ocho has had 122 looks and 8 drops.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 13, 2010 7:23pm
yeah T.O. definitely has had a pretty nice season. He's been a model citizen too.
I just think that when they inevitably go to the rebuilding route... I don't want him anywhere close to Andrew Luck (other QB not named Palmer)
I just think that when they inevitably go to the rebuilding route... I don't want him anywhere close to Andrew Luck (other QB not named Palmer)
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Dec 13, 2010 7:34pm
jordo212000;599799 wrote:yeah T.O. definitely has had a pretty nice season. He's been a model citizen too.
I just think that when they inevitably go to the rebuilding route... I don't want him anywhere close to Andrew Luck (other QB not named Palmer)
jordo, you expect Mike Brown to blow this team up? What's the chances of these guys being around next season?
1. Marvin
2. Stinko
3.T.O.
4. Palmer
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 13, 2010 7:50pm
I don't think Marvin Lewis would be back even if Mike Brown did make the offer. As for the others, who knows. I think we're stuck with Palmer. TO has had a great, bounce-back season here but no one wants to be part of this train wreck. With Mike Brown, anything's possible (and yet usually works out for the worst).Art Modell;599818 wrote:jordo, you expect Mike Brown to blow this team up? What's the chances of these guys being around next season?
1. Marvin
2. Stinko
3.T.O.
4. Palmer
Bottom line, if eight months from now, Palmer is still 'the guy' at QB (as in they didn't draft anyone noteworthy) and they start the season off looking awful and clueless (ala Patriots opener this past year) then...I don't know. There might be a riot in Cincinnati.