LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 9, 2010 9:26pm
You guy's do realize that Pryor only has .5 less YPC than Newton playing in an offense that doesn't revolve around the QB running.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 9, 2010 9:31pm
LJ;594715 wrote:You guy's do realize that Pryor only has .5 less YPC than Newton playing in an offense that doesn't revolve around the QB running.
Yards per carry or yards per play?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 9, 2010 9:32pm
Hb31187;594717 wrote:Yards per carry or yards per play?
yards per carry
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 9, 2010 9:36pm
If you have a significant amount less carries than another player its also easier to have a high YPC though
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 9, 2010 9:41pm
Hb31187;594731 wrote:If you have a significant amount less carries than another player its also easier to have a high YPC though
Maybe when a guy has 50 carries vs 300, but they both carried the ball a significant amount, and both took about the same number of sacks. Pryor would excel in the offense that Newton runs.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 9, 2010 9:57pm
centralbucksfan;593842 wrote:Full of himself? What freaking big time D1 QB isn't? At least he isn't jumping into the crowd and mugging the camera like Newton does!! Pryor is NO different then most big time division 1 players.
And if Troy Smith could go in round 5 of the draft, I have no question that Pryor would go earlier then that right now.
troy smith was drafted to play qb. odds are pryor wont be playing qb at the next level.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 9, 2010 10:01pm
Most of Pryors runs were when the play broke down and there was nothing but green in front of him however (not that theres anything wrong with that at all) so theres obviously gonna be more room for him to run, thus a high YPC. Newton often played against stacked boxes because people knew what was coming.LJ;594742 wrote:Maybe when a guy has 50 carries vs 300, but they both carried the ball a significant amount, and both took about the same number of sacks. Pryor would excel in the offense that Newton runs.
I do think Pryor would fit well in that offense however
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 9, 2010 10:01pm
KnightRyder;594770 wrote:troy smith was drafted to play qb. odds are pryor wont be playing qb at the next level.
Put $100 on it?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 9, 2010 10:03pm
Hb31187;594777 wrote:I do think Pryor would fit well in that offense however
I definitely agree with this. I also think that Cam would fit very well in OSU's offense too. Not that they are "interchangeable", but they are very, very similar. I think that Cam's numbers may have been even better playing in OSU's offense.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 9, 2010 10:20pm
They talked about this on Common Man and the Torg tonight. Apparently Ohio Chatter isn't the only place where discussion of this is going on. Let's call a spade a spade, he should have kept his mouth shut
KnightRyder
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Dec 9, 2010 10:32pm
LJ;594778 wrote:Put $100 on it?
if i thought for a minute you had $100 i would
KnightRyder
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Dec 9, 2010 10:36pm
pryors comments smacks of the same arrogance you see in many buckeye fans. i remember back when pryor first stepped on campus the predictions from OSU suppoters of a heisman and a couple of national championships. it wasnt all that long ago . well time is running out.
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Hamp89
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Dec 9, 2010 10:38pm
KnightRyder;594830 wrote:pryors comments smacks of the same arrogance you see in many buckeye fans. i remember back when pryor first stepped on campus the predictions from OSU suppoters of a heisman and a couple of national championships. it wasnt all that long ago . well time is running out.
This is a bit of an over generalization. There are several buckeye fans even on this thread who agree Pryor needs to watch what he says in public.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 9, 2010 10:55pm
KnightRyder;594825 wrote:if i thought for a minute you had $100 i would
Scared just as I thought
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Dec 9, 2010 10:58pm
Hamp89;594832 wrote:This is a bit of an over generalization. There are several buckeye fans even on this thread who agree Pryor needs to watch what he says in public.
Do not try to reason with the unreasonable.
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Big Gain
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Dec 9, 2010 11:50pm
KnightRyder;594770 wrote:troy smith was drafted to play qb. odds are pryor wont be playing qb at the next level.
Robinson's odds are MUCH MUCH longer and Newton's are about the same.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 10, 2010 7:03am
Cam Newton rushing and passing stats
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cam-newton-1.html
Terrelle Pryor rushing and passing stats
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/terrelle-pryor-1.html
Its not even close.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cam-newton-1.html
Terrelle Pryor rushing and passing stats
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/terrelle-pryor-1.html
Its not even close.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Dec 10, 2010 7:17am
In defense of Robinson, one has to wonder the kind of numbers he would have put up if he had receivers who could catch the ball. In addition, you have to consider he is two years younger than TP. As for Netwon, in all honesty I think he has better touch on the ball and is definitely not afraid to run through guys as well as past them (see the South Carolina game). All of this being said, I think Pryor is a great athlete who would have been great where ever he would have gone.
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vball10set
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Dec 10, 2010 8:08am
link?KnightRyder;594830 wrote:pryors comments smacks of the same arrogance you see in many buckeye fans. i remember back when pryor first stepped on campus the predictions from OSU suppoters of a heisman and a couple of national championships. it wasnt all that long ago . well time is running out.
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WebFire
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Dec 10, 2010 8:47am
Links or no links, what he said is true. Talk of multiple Heismans was for sure.vball10set;595024 wrote:link?
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Dec 10, 2010 8:55am
I'm sure there are some OSU fans who may have predicted multiple Heismans and/or NCs. Somewhat similar to Michigan fans predicting a Heisman for Denard after the fiirst 3 or 4 games this year. Fans = fanatics. Its not uncommon.
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vball10set
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Dec 10, 2010 9:11am
WebFire;595038 wrote:Links or no links, what he said is true. Talk of multiple Heismans was for sure.
dat dude;595042 wrote:I'm sure there are some OSU fans who may have predicted multiple Heismans and/or NCs. Somewhat similar to Michigan fans predicting a Heisman for Denard after the fiirst 3 or 4 games this year. Fans = fanatics. Its not uncommon.
for sure?? lol....and I agree, dat dude, that a lot of us were hoping for more--but hoping and predicting aren't the same IMO.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 10, 2010 9:29am
cats gone wild;595003 wrote:Cam Newton rushing and passing stats
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cam-newton-1.html
Terrelle Pryor rushing and passing stats
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/terrelle-pryor-1.html
Its not even close.
Its not close because Pryor isn't the focal point in OSU rushing attack. As noted MANY times, Pryor ran MUCH less, about 120 attempts less. The YPC are close. I am not saying Pryor is better than Newton, he isn't. But comparing the rushing is ridiculous when one is the main runner for his team, and the other isn't. Passing stats are in FACT VERY close.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 10, 2010 9:30am
WebFire;595038 wrote:Links or no links, what he said is true. Talk of multiple Heismans was for sure.
Kinda like all the UM fans jumping on the Robinson wagon this year and the Forcier wagon last year?
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 10, 2010 9:31am
dat dude;595042 wrote:I'm sure there are some OSU fans who may have predicted multiple Heismans and/or NCs. Somewhat similar to Michigan fans predicting a Heisman for Denard after the fiirst 3 or 4 games this year. Fans = fanatics. Its not uncommon.
at least the michigan fans talked of the the heisman after robinson played a few games. buckyeye nation made predictiosn the day pryor signed a letter of intent.