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Dec 12, 2010 3:48 PM
wes_mantooth;597813 wrote:sadly, Mangini has no one to blame but himself.

If he is making the decisions on who to start at QB, I agree. With the set up of the organization now, it is hard to know who is responsible for what.
Dec 12, 2010 3:48pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:48 PM
The 2nd and goal from the 2 in the 1st goal that resulted in a FG was huge factor in this game.

Browns had 187 total yards when Buffalo gives up almost 400 per game.
Dec 12, 2010 3:48pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:49 PM
KR1245;597818 wrote:I totally agree. Hes set in his ways and he will lose his job because of it. If he thinks that Jake Delhomme gives this team the best chance to win than he deserves to be fired.

I totally agree with this. I like what Mangini has done so far, but in the end the job of the head coach is to put his team in the best position to win and he's not doing that if he thinks Jake is a better option then Colt
Dec 12, 2010 3:49pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:49 PM
KR1245;597818 wrote:I totally agree. Hes set in his ways and he will lose his job because of it. If he thinks that Jake Delhomme gives this team the best chance to win than he deserves to be fired.

I really don't think firing Mangini is the right route to take. Keep him one more year and see what he can do, but give him even less control (i.e. holmgren/lerner/hackert forcing him to bench failhome).
Dec 12, 2010 3:49pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:50 PM
like_that;597826 wrote:I really don't think firing Mangini is the right route to take. Keep him one more year and see what he can do, but give him even less control (i.e. holmgren/lerner/hackert forcing him to bench failhome).

At least get rid of Daboll. That guy is awful
Dec 12, 2010 3:50pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:50 PM
Mangini cant do anything right.
Dec 12, 2010 3:50pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:51 PM
What a disappointment! Now I get to read the insults of like_that's signature.
Dec 12, 2010 3:51pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:52 PM
Blanket;597811 wrote:How close was Hillis when he fumbled on the leap in the 1st half?

The 20 yard line or so.
Dec 12, 2010 3:52pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:53 PM
Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.

It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.
Dec 12, 2010 3:53pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:53 PM
Hillis's fumbling problem is starting to approach the level of Braylon's drops when he was here. He has now put it on the ground 8 times in 13 games. That is just completely unacceptable for a running back in the NFL.
Dec 12, 2010 3:53pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:54 PM
If Mangini can't put the best guys on the field then he has to go. I've been a supporter of Mangini since last year, but enough is enough. Derek Anderson is better than Jake Delhomme. There is no justification for him playing in an NFL game.
Dec 12, 2010 3:54pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:55 PM
THE4RINGZ;597837 wrote:Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.

It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.

I am fine with Mangini unless he is not putting the best players on the field. Right now...that might be the case. Delhomme would not start for one other club in the NFL except for maybe Arizona.
Dec 12, 2010 3:55pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:55 PM
THE4RINGZ;597837 wrote:Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.

It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.

Yeah, I can see Gruden coming to a losing team and be an assistant to an imbecile head coach who will keep pitching Jake Delhomme to him.
Dec 12, 2010 3:55pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:57 PM
THE4RINGZ;597837 wrote:Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.

It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.

Gruden wouldn't lower himself to come to the Browns and be an asst. coach
Dec 12, 2010 3:57pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:58 PM
KR1245;597830 wrote:At least get rid of Daboll. That guy is awful
Oh yeah, his ass should be fired before getting on the plane back to Cleveland.
Dec 12, 2010 3:58pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:58 PM
Mangini won't fire Daboll, who should never have been allowed back this year after over seeing the worst offense in the league last year. He falls in love with his guys (like Delhomme) and then refuses to part with them no matter how much it hurts the team. For that he has to go, because it will keep the Browns from ever really taking that next step from Mediocre to legit contender.
Dec 12, 2010 3:58pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:59 PM
IggyPride00;597854 wrote:Mangini won't fire Daboll, who should never have been allowed back this year after over seeing the worst offense in the league last year. He falls in love with his guys (like Delhomme) and then refuses to part with them no matter how much it hurts the team. For that he has to go, because it will keep the Browns from ever really taking that next step from Mediocre to legit contender.

Good thing it's not mangini's decision.
Dec 12, 2010 3:59pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:59 PM
When all was said and done the better team won.
Dec 12, 2010 3:59pm
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Dec 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Cleveland Buck;597843 wrote:Yeah, I can see Gruden coming to a losing team and be an assistant to an imbecile head coach who will keep pitching Jake Delhomme to him.



Welcome to the delusional world of being a Cleveland Browns fan.
Dec 12, 2010 3:59pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:03 PM
Skyhook79;597858 wrote:Welcome to the delusional world of being a Cleveland Browns fan.

Nice fail on detecting the sarcasm. Great contribution to this thread though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 12, 2010 4:03pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:05 PM
So I'm guessing after this L, Cleveland is mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?
Dec 12, 2010 4:05pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:05 PM
newarkcatholicfan;597857 wrote:When all was said and done the better team won.

And here I was getting prepared for AM. What is up, old pal? ;-)
Dec 12, 2010 4:05pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:05 PM
I've supported Mangini as well, but if Seneca Wallace was healthy today, and Delhomme still got the start, it's time for Mangini to go. That's just unacceptable. Let's be honest though, a loss today helps the Browns much more than a win would, in the long run.
Dec 12, 2010 4:05pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:06 PM
Automatik;597871 wrote:So I'm guessing after this L, Cleveland is mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

I would think so. You pretty much needed 10-6, but no way 8-8 gets you in.
Dec 12, 2010 4:06pm
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Dec 12, 2010 4:06 PM
This team was not going to the playoffs to begin with.
Dec 12, 2010 4:06pm