The 2010 Heisman Trophy

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se-alum
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Dec 7, 2010 2:07pm
I would really like to see Luck win, but I know it's not going to happen. However, Luck will get his revenge with an NFL career far and above Cam Newton's.
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Dec 7, 2010 3:30pm
lhslep134;591296 wrote:HA your post reeks of ignorance. CC wasn't AT ALL insinuating that Pryor should be the Heisman winner let alone be invited to the ceremony, all he was saying is that Cats is wrong that TP is overhyped, and I completely agree with CC.

Pryor:
5956 passing yards, 55 touchdowns, 144 passing efficiency
2049 rushing yards, 17 rushing touchdowns
2 receiving touchdowns

He's not exactly Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford, but his mechanics aren't anywhere near them and he won't play QB at the next level, but NONE of that detracts from how good he's been as a leader of this football team and a winner at 30-4.
Apparently you missed cc's thread a few days ago where he did exactly what my post suggested. Get a clue before you call someone ignorant or else you will run the risk of looking like a fool.
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Dec 7, 2010 3:43pm
karen lotz;591409 wrote:Apparently you missed cc's thread a few days ago where he did exactlry what my post suggested. Get a clue before you call someone ignorant or else you will run the risk of looking like a fool.

This isn't that other thread. You transposed CC's beliefs from that other thread to make a statement using that transposition to try and discredit his post on this thread, when in all reality his other thread has no bearing on his post that imo is 100% correct, yet you felt the need to attack.

So please, the ignorant one here is you.
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Dec 7, 2010 4:02pm
lhslep134;591417 wrote:This isn't that other thread. You transposed CC's beliefs from that other thread to make a statement using that transposition to try and discredit his post on this thread, when in all reality his other thread has no bearing on his post that imo is 100% correct, yet you felt the need to attack.

So please, the ignorant one here is you.


Damn, take cc's baby dick out of your butt for a second and transpose the fact that no one on here needs to discredit anything cc says about college football or competitive sports in general outside of HS cross country.
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Dec 7, 2010 4:22pm
lhslep134;591417 wrote:This isn't that other thread. You transposed CC's beliefs from that other thread to make a statement using that transposition to try and discredit his post on this thread, when in all reality his other thread has no bearing on his post that imo is 100% correct, yet you felt the need to attack.

So please, the ignorant one here is you.

No, it's you. He wasn't doing anything to discredit CC's post in this thread, he was simply making fun of CC's asinine thread a few weeks ago. Anyone who spends much time here would have gotten the joke.
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Dec 7, 2010 4:27pm
krambman;591476 wrote:No, it's you. He wasn't doing anything to discredit CC's post in this thread, he was simply making fun of CC's asinine thread a few weeks ago. Anyone who spends much time here would have gotten the joke.


Thank you.
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Dec 7, 2010 4:43pm
krambman;591476 wrote:No, it's you. He wasn't doing anything to discredit CC's post in this thread, he was simply making fun of CC's asinine thread a few weeks ago. Anyone who spends much time here would have gotten the joke.

Considering I didn't open CC's thread because I saw the title and realized it would be asinine, I didn't get the joke.

Shame on you CC, and shame on me for being ignorant to the joke.
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vball10set
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Dec 7, 2010 4:46pm
don't beat yourself up, lhs--as krambman said, you'd have to spend a lot of time here to get that joke. :rolleyes:
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Dec 7, 2010 6:34pm
Cam Knew-ton
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Dec 7, 2010 7:59pm
ccrunner609;591678 wrote:ok guys my thread the other day was basically showing that all the Newton dick sucking isnt worth all the hype. He is good but his numbers arent that much better then any other QB. TP has better passing numbers then CN, CN gets to call his own number in a system designed to have him run up the stats. TP isnt far off ina system designed to share hte ball.


So some of you can fuck off about bashing me if you cant see that, maybe you the football dumbass.
Yes you are right, when you only look at half of the stats, Pryor does have numbers that match up with Newton. I doubt anyone on here has any question who the football dumbass is.
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Dec 7, 2010 9:34pm
Newton is up by almost 60% in StiffArmTrophy's projection
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Tiernan
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Dec 8, 2010 8:30am
krambman;591476 wrote:No, it's you. He wasn't doing anything to discredit CC's post in this thread, he was simply making fun of CC's asinine thread a few weeks ago. Anyone who spends much time here would have gotten the joke.
CC makes many insightful football comments tucked inside sarcastic barbs and humorous jabs (mostly aimed NDs way). And you Kramby have once again shamed yourself amongst the Buckeye faithful by taking sides and defending a Domer over one of your own. You should be stripped of all your helmet leaves (oh wait...that's right you've never earned any).
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vball10set
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Dec 8, 2010 8:40am
Ty Webb;591803 wrote:Newton is up by almost 60% in StiffArmTrophy's projection
only 60%? I'm surprised it's that low
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Dec 8, 2010 12:52pm
vball10set;592217 wrote:only 60%? I'm surprised it's that low


I believe he means he is 60 percentage points ahead of 2nd place, not that he has only been named on 60% of ballots. As of right now, they have 124 ballots in their poll. Newton is on 115 of them and listed first on 108 of them. Andrew Luck is second right now by a few points over LaMichael James.

http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/
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Dec 8, 2010 1:57pm
Will Newton break Troy Smith's 1st place winning margin or whatever it was?

I wouldn't be surprised.
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Dec 8, 2010 2:20pm
Automatik;592574 wrote:Will Newton break Troy Smith's 1st place winning margin or whatever it was?

I wouldn't be surprised.

I hate to see such a cheat put the final nail in TWHPIH's coffin but at least it will be done.
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Dec 8, 2010 4:10pm
TWHPIH?

The worst Heisman pick in history? I don't get it.

Newton deserves it, I really don't give a shit about the off the field stuff.
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Tiernan
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Dec 10, 2010 4:49pm
Automatik;592857 wrote:TWHPIH?

The worst Heisman pick in history? I don't get it.

Newton deserves it, I really don't give a shit about the off the field stuff.
Sportswriters across the nation have an opportunity to do the right thing and put this clown and his money grubbing old man down for good. But they won't and the Heisman just became totally irrelevent which is where its been heading since Eddie George won it.
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Dec 10, 2010 4:55pm
If the NCAA does nothing, why should the voters feel the need to find him guilty? You're right...they won't and they can't.
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Dec 10, 2010 5:05pm
Orinthal James won by the largest margin fwiw but anyway, the FBI investigation is still ongoing and obviously won't be done in time to have any relevance than after the fact. The NCAA did just enough to declare him eligible to avoid a clusterfuck, but without subpoena powers they're a toothless dog anyway.
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Dec 10, 2010 7:32pm
Tiernan;595647 wrote:Sportswriters across the nation have an opportunity to do the right thing and put this clown and his money grubbing old man down for good. But they won't and the Heisman just became totally irrelevent which is where its been heading since Eddie George won it.

So it was trash when Troy Smith won then too right?
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Dec 10, 2010 10:33pm
Ty Webb;595765 wrote:So it was trash when Troy Smith won then too right?

Jon Brantley for Heisman?
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Dec 11, 2010 5:36am
THe latest update from StiffArmTrophy was on December 9th at 6:45 am

Newton's lead over Andrew Luck has slipped to 54%

Starting to look like the order will be Newton, Luck, James and Moore

They say there are 13 voters who left Newton off their ballots and 8 that have him 2nd or 3rd.
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Tiernan
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Dec 11, 2010 10:58am
Ty Webb;595765 wrote:So it was trash when Troy Smith won then too right?
Yes it was. Troy Smith is TWHPIH and Ive said so since he single handedly lost 2 NCs for the Buckeyes.
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Dec 11, 2010 11:19am
StiffArmTrophy has their final projection up.

Cam Newton 84%
Andrew Luck 32%
LeMichael James 28%
Kellen Moore 18%