Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 3:55pm
Holmes is better at running the short routes yes. But Wallace is a better deep threat. The both demand alot of attention.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 3:57pm
Also the Steelers threw the ball almost 550 times last year.....and this year is only around 350
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 12, 2010 3:57pm
Just tell LJ he was right so he can stfu.
Another ugly W today, but again I'll take it.
Another ugly W today, but again I'll take it.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 3:58pm
Tiger2003;597766 wrote:Wallace is a great deep threat....But Holmes was way better on the short routes.
How many fucking times do you want me to say it? Are you fucking blind I typed this at 3:35.....Fuck!
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 12, 2010 4:01pm
Wow. Bungals keeping their thug image up.
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rock_knutne
Dec 12, 2010 4:01pm
Be Nice;597842 wrote:Steelers are good, but there must be a reason for them to be the most hated team in the NFL. Wonder why?
There must be a reason why they're the most popular team in the league too. Wonder why? :rolleyes:
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 12, 2010 4:03pm
What happened at the end? Coverage was switched.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 4:04pm
Automatik;597864 wrote:What happened at the end? Coverage was switched.
The Steelers punted the ball and the clock ran out...and there was a skirmish.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 12, 2010 4:05pm
Automatik;597864 wrote:What happened at the end? Coverage was switched.
Big fight, probably started by the Bengals. Many players involved, big scrum, bodies thrown to the ground, etc.
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Be Nice
Posts: 1,120
Dec 12, 2010 4:08pm
Was Ben's nose involved?
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Highland
Posts: 18
Dec 12, 2010 4:18pm
Something's off this year. He doesn't look good at all.Pick6;597725 wrote:I used to stick up for Palmer..but he sucks, cant wait til we get another QB.
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Highland
Posts: 18
Dec 12, 2010 4:23pm
No one misses Skippy Skeeve a/k/a Jeff Reed at all. Not even the hoes.I Wear Pants;597619 wrote:Suisham has been great.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 12, 2010 4:24pm
Had nothing to do with me being right, it had everything to do with him just completely ignoring what I was saying about how teams had to prepare schematically. Everyone knows that Wallace is a great deep threat, but he provides nothing over the middle. That really hurts the team on 3rd and 5, which is where Holmes was absolutely clutch. It was also where Holmes would demand triple coverage opening up the other receivers. There is no one on the team this year that brings triple coverage on a 3rd and 5.Automatik;597849 wrote:Just tell LJ he was right so he can stfu.
Another ugly W today, but again I'll take it.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 12, 2010 4:26pm
Tiger2003;597853 wrote:How many fucking times do you want me to say it? Are you fucking blind I typed this at 3:35.....Fuck!
are you fucking retarded, I never disagreed with that.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 4:34pm
LJ;597918 wrote:are you fucking retarded, I never disagreed with that.
You have got to be a fucking idiot....
LJ
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Dec 12, 2010 4:36pm
Tiger2003;597934 wrote:You have got to be a fucking idiot....
Umm, where did I disagree with any of that? All you keep talking about is how great of a deep threat he is, while I am talking about why the offense seems to stall constantly, which would be their lack of a great #1 WR, which they had in Holmes.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 4:38pm
LJ;597821 wrote:So you agree that Holmes was a better overall WR who opened up the offense more because of his deep play ability as well as his clutch ability in the short and intermediate routes?
I agreed with you that Holmes was better at the short routes but like I said I believe Wallace is a better deep threat that is why he has led the league the only 2 years in YPC. They both demand alot of double teams, but another reason why so many Steelers had so many yards is because they Steelers threw the ball about 550 times last year and only 350 this year not because Holmes completely opened up the offense, yes he did help but was not the only reason.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 12, 2010 4:47pm
How many games has Polamalu single-handedly sealed the win 4? 5?....3 in a row?
Defensive POY
Defensive POY
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Dec 12, 2010 4:49pm
How many times can the D pull out a W for them though? One has to believe it can only take them so far.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 12, 2010 4:49pm
Lets end the Wallace v. Holmes debate. Holmes plays for another team now.
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Dec 12, 2010 4:50pm
Be Nice;597842 wrote:Steelers are good, but there must be a reason for them to be the most hated team in the NFL. Wonder why?
It's called jealousy. Steelers are 10-3 and headed to at least the 2nd seed. I'll take it.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 12, 2010 4:52pm
Tiger2003;597947 wrote:I agreed with you that Holmes was better at the short routes but like I said I believe Wallace is a better deep threat that is why he has led the league the only 2 years in YPC. They both demand alot of double teams, but another reason why so many Steelers had so many yards is because they Steelers threw the ball about 550 times last year and only 350 this year not because Holmes completely opened up the offense, yes he did help but was not the only reason.
They have thrown the ball 76 times less so far this season vs the same time last season. BUT, last year they average 32 pass attempts per game with Ben, but this year they have averaged *gasp* 32 pass attempts per game with Ben. The amount of times they have thrown the ball has not changed since last year when Ben is in the game. That is not the problem.
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Dec 12, 2010 4:52pm
I'll take Roethlisberger as my qb over anyone in the league.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Dec 12, 2010 4:53pm
bigdaddy2003;597968 wrote:How many times can the D pull out a W for them though? One has to believe it can only take them so far.
Took your Ravens all the way to a Super Bowl title.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 12, 2010 4:53pm
THE4RINGZ;597970 wrote:Lets end the Wallace v. Holmes debate. Holmes plays for another team now.
The only debate is that the Steelers lack a true #1 WR and it shows. No matter if it was Holmes, Fitzgerald or Randy Moss last year, who it was doesn't change the fact that they lost their #1 and it shows.