Parochial schools Make up 9%...

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Y-Town Steelhound
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Dec 11, 2010 11:54am
Maybe it's just me....but I'm not one to say to my son "you're not good enough to win a state championship, daddy will make sure all the good teams have their own playoff so you can get your own trophy too!"


Ladies and gentleman, any evidence you need about the pussification of our society, just take a stroll onto this thread.

Maybe we should let the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, and Bulls have their own playoffs every year in the NBA since they win all the titles. It's not fair! It's not fair!


Please...stop trying to relive your glory days. I guarantee the kids themselves don't like hearing that they aren't good enough and that things shouldn't be decided on the field.
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Rocket08
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Dec 14, 2010 1:03pm
Falcon;596097 wrote: I personally enjoy it when a public school beats a bigger catholic school.

You obviously have a pretty sucky life (plus, you're frustrated a lot on Friday nights)

Do you know skank, btw? The 2 of you have a lot in common
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skank
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Dec 14, 2010 6:10pm
Rocket08;600725 wrote:You obviously have a pretty sucky life (plus, you're frustrated a lot on Friday nights)

Do you know skank, btw? The 2 of you have a lot in common

Yeah, he is probably frustrated a lot on friday nights. When his team has trouble contending with teams comprised of half the state.
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riders1
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Dec 14, 2010 6:41pm
If the private schools offer such a quality education, why do the football teams dress upwards to 100 players and the band is lucky to have 20 to 30 kids? What there is no quality music departments there or did they use up all the money on football uniforms and have little left for the band?
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skank
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Dec 14, 2010 6:57pm
riders1;601132 wrote:If the private schools offer such a quality education, why do the football teams dress upwards to 100 players and the band is lucky to have 20 to 30 kids? What there is no quality music departments there or did they use up all the money on football uniforms and have little left for the band?

Close....Not on "football uniforms"....More like football scholarships.
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Al Bundy
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Dec 14, 2010 7:08pm
skank;601097 wrote:Yeah, he is probably frustrated a lot on friday nights. When his team has trouble contending with teams comprised of half the state.

Isn't your school made up of kids from multiple states?
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skank
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Dec 14, 2010 7:12pm
Nope.
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september63
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Dec 14, 2010 10:33pm
skank;601153 wrote:Close....Not on "football uniforms"....More like football scholarships.

Am I reading a Massillon Tigers fan whining about the advantages of "private schools?" Please tell us what the advantages are. A proud history like yours, and you have been reduced to whining about parochial schools?

Good thing Massillon has never been found guilty of recruiting violations!!
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GoChiefs
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Dec 15, 2010 8:33am
september63;601438 wrote:Please tell us what the advantages are.

Please don't, just read the other 20 threads. You'll have your answer.
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sirclovis
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Dec 15, 2010 10:11am
GoChiefs;601621 wrote:Please don't, just read the other 20 threads. You'll have your answer.

Contrary to your popular belief, if you read other threads all these "answers" are murky and its been hard to find a real one. I have read that the number of parochial championships is an answer but really and truly that is not, but that is a result not an advantage. What is the vast amount of evidence against all these private schools?
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K_N_I_G_H_T_S
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Dec 15, 2010 3:32pm
Life is what you make and you can't make it real far at many of the public schools (I know yours is the exception). My kid is in a private just because of the education.
I like to pray, I believe in fiscal responsibility, I like to say Merry Christmas instead of happy holidays. These and many others are the real reasons why the privates do well.
It does not hurt that he happens to be a knock out football player but that is my last reason. if they did not have a football team he would still be there.
Multiply, divide and subtract all you want, we will still be there working to provide the best possible education and athletic experience we can for our kids.
Alter Knights Forever!
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Rocket08
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Dec 15, 2010 4:40pm
Nice post

Merry Christmas!!!
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skank
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Dec 15, 2010 4:43pm
september63;601438 wrote:Am I reading a Massillon Tigers fan whining about the advantages of "private schools?" Please tell us what the advantages are. A proud history like yours, and you have been reduced to whining about parochial schools?

Good thing Massillon has never been found guilty of recruiting violations!!

When your school starts honoring contracts instead of running like scared children....We'll talk. 34-0
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Dec 16, 2010 4:40am
K_N_I_G_H_T_S;602132 wrote:I like to pray, I believe in fiscal responsibility, I like to say Merry Christmas instead of happy holidays. These and many others are the real reasons why the privates do well.
These are all valid reasons for attending a private school to be sure. But claiming that these benefits are the "real reasons" private schools do so well on the gridiron is a bit of a stretch.

Justify this in your mind all you want but private Catholic schools are a clear minority of OHSAA schools but private Catholic schools, in particular, hold a majority of state football titles. Prayer may give the players some spiritual grounding, but unless the communion wafers and holy water are laced with steroids, it doesn't guarantee football success!
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K_N_I_G_H_T_S
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Dec 16, 2010 1:14pm
believer;602717 wrote:These are all valid reasons for attending a private school to be sure. But claiming that these benefits are the "real reasons" private schools do so well on the gridiron is a bit of a stretch.

Justify this in your mind all you want but private Catholic schools are a clear minority of OHSAA schools but private Catholic schools, in particular, hold a majority of state football titles. Prayer may give the players some spiritual grounding, but unless the communion wafers and holy water are laced with steroids, it doesn't guarantee football success!

Never saw a kid that told me prayer hurt him but your points are valid.
I believe that foundation is a consideration that can't be overlooked in early childhood development. I see many kids out there today that desperation is a way of life. The hope they have is to be left alone in school and not be picked on for just a day.
I am disturbed to my core by the responses of educators in the public system that think nothing can be done. They stand by and watch while handicap kids get pushed around by bullies (remember the wheelchair bound kid last year that got beat up and the school tried to cover it up, disgraceful) or have personal knowledge about drugs, alcohol and smoking that goes on at the school.
There is not just one thing you can put your finger on when so many things go into the making of an athlete. I have seen so many teams that could have beaten us but would hang their hat on a few bad plays, lose focus and the only thing they had backing them up was the player to his left. That is just not enough. When our kids take the field knowing we are there top to bottom is what sustains them.

Kids will do and say what you teach them. The real football lessons are taught in the home.


If that is a little general for you, it is on purpose. My feeling is our kids are required to live by a greater standard and that means a great deal when a great deal is expected of you on and off the field.
I could have decided to take the easy less expensive route of public school but I know all the concentrated education he gets will develop him to his full potential. Football is mostly mental. One just needs the body to sustain the blow.

Are we better than anyone else, never. That is not what we are about.

In the education of our youth we "take care of the small things and the big things take care of themselves". (always liked that quote, E.E. Dickinson) That my friend is what makes the difference.
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Al Bundy
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Dec 16, 2010 2:15pm
K_N_I_G_H_T_S;603014 wrote:Never saw a kid that told me prayer hurt him but your points are valid.
I believe that foundation is a consideration that can't be overlooked in early childhood development. I see many kids out there today that desperation is a way of life. The hope they have is to be left alone in school and not be picked on for just a day.
I am disturbed to my core by the responses of educators in the public system that think nothing can be done. They stand by and watch while handicap kids get pushed around by bullies (remember the wheelchair bound kid last year that got beat up and the school tried to cover it up, disgraceful) or have personal knowledge about drugs, alcohol and smoking that goes on at the school.
There is not just one thing you can put your finger on when so many things go into the making of an athlete. I have seen so many teams that could have beaten us but would hang their hat on a few bad plays, lose focus and the only thing they had backing them up was the player to his left. That is just not enough. When our kids take the field knowing we are there top to bottom is what sustains them.

Kids will do and say what you teach them. The real football lessons are taught in the home.


If that is a little general for you, it is on purpose. My feeling is our kids are required to live by a greater standard and that means a great deal when a great deal is expected of you on and off the field.
I could have decided to take the easy less expensive route of public school but I know all the concentrated education he gets will develop him to his full potential. Football is mostly mental. One just needs the body to sustain the blow.

Are we better than anyone else, never. That is not what we are about.

In the education of our youth we "take care of the small things and the big things take care of themselves". (always liked that quote, E.E. Dickinson) That my friend is what makes the difference.
I think your points separate good school vs. bad school more than they do private vs. public. Each family should have the option of selecting the school that is best for their child.