KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Dec 1, 2010 1:22pm
jordo212000;583335 wrote:I can't usually say much because we have been getting Browns games for the past month; also if you look around there actually has been a decent amount of Bengal discussion despite the fact that we are bad
Ok. I look at the first page and I dont see a single Bengals vs Saints game thread. The Browns game thread already has close to 50 comments.
I'm not comparing Cleveland and Cincy, I'm just saying this thing would happen with alot of fans.
Tribe threads used to be packed when the Tribe had a soid team, now its a ghost town
Reds threads were the same way until last year.
Thats just how it goes. There were also alot of Judas fans and not Cavs fans. I'm glad those people are gone
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 1, 2010 1:58pm
KR1245;583356 wrote:There were also alot of Judas fans and not Cavs fans.
Legit lol'd at this. Love that nickname.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 1, 2010 9:57pm
I wasn't being negative at all. I was just pointing out that you guys are the real Cavs fans. There are a ton of guys running their jibs all season about how Cleveland was going to do this, Lebron was going to do that, but they're all gone now. I tip my caps to you guys.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 10:23pm
jordo212000;584159 wrote:I wasn't being negative at all. I was just pointing out that you guys are the real Cavs fans. There are a ton of guys running their jibs all season about how Cleveland was going to do this, Lebron was going to do that, but they're all gone now. I tip my caps to you guys.
Oh yeah...
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 10:24pm
KR1245;583298 wrote:I'm not a big fan of the Iggy rumors at all. He makes us better this year but his contract is awful.
Again though, who cares? The Cavs are never going to win a title. I love the Cavs, but I'm a realist.
There is a reason why two teams have won over half the damn titles in the NBA. I'm just going to ask for a fun, exciting team to watch. Iggy gives us that. Just make it to the playoffs
Jester
Posts: 700
Dec 1, 2010 10:28pm
hoops23;584285 wrote:Again though, who cares? The Cavs are never going to win a title. I love the Cavs, but I'm a realist.
There is a reason why two teams have won over half the damn titles in the NBA. I'm just going to ask for a fun, exciting team to watch. Iggy gives us that. Just make it to the playoffs
How can you tell that the Cavs will "never" win a title?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 1, 2010 10:29pm
Jester;584301 wrote:How can you tell that the Cavs will "never" win a title?
We are Cleveland fans....losing is what we do
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 1, 2010 10:29pm
Iggy would definitely help. I see him as another Vince Carter. A guy who relies on dunking, driving to the rack, and exciting player who will ultimately never win you anything if he is top banana for your team. He's exciting though. And could be a nice complementary piece. Especially if they get lucky in the lotteryhoops23;584285 wrote:Again though, who cares? The Cavs are never going to win a title. I love the Cavs, but I'm a realist.
There is a reason why two teams have won over half the damn titles in the NBA. I'm just going to ask for a fun, exciting team to watch. Iggy gives us that. Just make it to the playoffs
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 1, 2010 10:33pm
I am just not an Iggy guy....I really think he is a 3rd option on a good team. I know there was people that wanted him at the deadline last year, but I really don't think it would have changed anything at all. I think the worst place to be in the NBA is a "good" team.....I want to be either elite or full on rebuild. How old is Iggy now?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 10:36pm
Jester;584301 wrote:How can you tell that the Cavs will "never" win a title?
Gee, I dunno. Maybe the fact that we never have? And the fact that despite getting a talent like LeBron, in a league where one elite player makes such a difference, we still failed.
Yeah, that has a LITTLE to do with it.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 10:38pm
wes_mantooth;584324 wrote:I am just not an Iggy guy....I really think he is a 3rd option on a good team. I know there was people that wanted him at the deadline last year, but I really don't think it would have changed anything at all. I think the worst place to be in the NBA is a "good" team.....I want to be either elite or full on rebuild. How old is Iggy now?
Iggy is still young at 26. BUT, he fits Byron's system PERFECTLY.
Obviously, he's not the guy to push us to the "elite" level, but again, we were elite for the last few years and have nothing to show for it.
Just give me good, exciting basketball.
Jester
Posts: 700
Dec 1, 2010 10:41pm
How does the past have anything to do with how a team can perform in the future? Several teams in the NBA have never won a championship. Doesn't mean they never can.hoops23;584339 wrote:Gee, I dunno. Maybe the fact that we never have? And the fact that despite getting a talent like LeBron, in a league where one elite player makes such a difference, we still failed.
Yeah, that has a LITTLE to do with it.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 10:55pm
Jester;584358 wrote:How does the past have anything to do with how a team can perform in the future? Several teams in the NBA have never won a championship. Doesn't mean they never can.
You should have just stopped there.
Jester
Posts: 700
Dec 1, 2010 11:03pm
Um, why? It's a true statement. Here's a list.hoops23;584401 wrote:You should have just stopped there.
http://www.nba.com/history/finals/champions.html
I think you'll notice several teams missing from that list. Does that mean those teams can never win a championship as well?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 1, 2010 11:12pm
jordo212000;584305 wrote:Iggy would definitely help. I see him as another Vince Carter. A guy who relies on dunking, driving to the rack, and exciting player who will ultimately never win you anything if he is top banana for your team. He's exciting though. And could be a nice complementary piece. Especially if they get lucky in the lottery
Iggy plays defense, thus your argument is invalid.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 11:18pm
Jester;584428 wrote:Um, why? It's a true statement. Here's a list.
http://www.nba.com/history/finals/champions.html
I think you'll notice several teams missing from that list. Does that mean those teams can never win a championship as well?
You're making my point for me, and you continue to do so lol.
Thanks.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 1, 2010 11:20pm
hoops23;584490 wrote:You're making my point for me, and you continue to do so lol.
Thanks.
lol! sure does.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2010 11:34pm
Would you have said Miami could win a championship prior to a few years ago?hoops23;584490 wrote:You're making my point for me, and you continue to do so lol.
Thanks.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 1, 2010 11:38pm
karen lotz;584535 wrote:Would you have said Miami could win a championship prior to a few years ago?
huh?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2010 11:42pm
Commander of Awesome;584540 wrote:huh?
hoops is saying that only certain teams are able to win championships and the Cavs aren't one of those teams. I would think that the Cavs have just as good a shot as Miami, and Miami won a title a few years ago. Cavs very well could have if not for Jordan and the Bulls so I don't think its out of the question they could get it done in the future.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 1, 2010 11:44pm
FAILami had Dwade and Shaq plus two other HOFers on that roster, with a HOF coach. And the refs gifted Dwade with 45+ fts a game. Sorry that yr was a down yr/joke for the NBA IMHO. Cavs have none of that criteria, while I see what you're trying to say, I am siding with Hoops on this one, and probably most NBA issues, as Hoops knows his shit, and you're an Ohio troll.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2010 11:46pm
Ok who is to say that scenario can't play out again with Cleveland being the benefactor?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 1, 2010 11:48pm
karen lotz;584555 wrote:Ok who is to say that scenario can't play out again with Cleveland being the benefactor?
It can't without a top draft pick in Cleveland.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2010 11:50pm
Maybe, maybe not. I just don't think its impossible for them to win a title.Commander of Awesome;584561 wrote:It can't without a top draft pick in Cleveland.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 1, 2010 11:54pm
karen lotz;584555 wrote:Ok who is to say that scenario can't play out again with Cleveland being the benefactor?
First of all, Cleveland isn't attracting the FA's that Miami did that year.
Cleveland ISN'T Miami. Point blank. NBA stars love the party life style, and only a few cities provide that.
Cleveland had one of the better assembled rosters for the past two years and still came up empty. The difference between Miami and Cleveland? DWade didn't give up on his team and they played Allas in the finals, and yes, I left the D out on purpose.
As others said, DWade spent most of his time at the charity stripe. No way was Stern letting Cuban win a title.
It was a down year in the NBA that season. No Boston, no LA, Detroit was on the decline, and Dallas was the best in the West? LOL.
Sadly, Cleveland decided to become great a year or two late.