Archive Orrville Red Rider Football 2011

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Red Rider81

Posts: 80

Oct 22, 2011 5:09pm

Not much of an answer to my question. If you run the same play over and over the defense has a pretty easy time of it. We ran the sweep so many times there fans were calling it out. They need to throw short passes, what happend to the screen pass.

CCRolly

Posts: 786

Oct 22, 2011 5:41pm

When this one is over the McCreary's will be jumping up and down on the "O" at midfield celebrating...

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Diehard Rider Fan

Posts: 75

Oct 22, 2011 5:50pm

He won't last long http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/images/smilies/RpS_biggrin.gif

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Diehard Rider Fan

Posts: 75

Oct 22, 2011 5:51pm

He won't last long

BRF

Posts: 8,748

Oct 22, 2011 6:01pm

CCRolly;941601 wrote:When this one is over the McCreary's will be jumping up and down on the "O" at midfield celebrating...

You forgot the "sarcasm" graphic!

THE4RINGZ

Posts: 16,816

Oct 22, 2011 6:40pm

CCRolly;941601 wrote:When this one is over the McCreary's will be jumping up and down on the "O" at midfield celebrating...

So he is getting fired on the sidelines right after the final gun sounds? Perfect!!!!!

riders1

Posts: 2,275

Oct 22, 2011 6:59pm

THE4RINGZ;941632 wrote:So he is getting fired on the sidelines right after the final gun sounds? Perfect!!!!!

You say you want to load, aim, and fire the cannon in the endzone :thumbup:

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Red Rider Nation

Posts: 1,085

Oct 22, 2011 9:05pm

Red Rider81;941589 wrote:Not much of an answer to my question. If you run the same play over and over the defense has a pretty easy time of it. We ran the sweep so many times there fans were calling it out. They need to throw short passes, what happend to the screen pass.

Agreed. He avoided your question. You are right Red Rider 81. I heard their fans calling out what we were about to do and thats bad. We have got to stop being predictable. Didnt we throw a screen pass to Stew Turner last week for a touchdown? I saw none of that last night. Really makes you wonder!

riders1

Posts: 2,275

Oct 23, 2011 12:43am

Simple football, 2 options, run or pass, it starts with the line, you have to begin to execute the plays from there and if the execution or blocking starts right then the plays can develop and go well if it doesn't the plays don't enfold. Just look at the pros, redright 88 and Metcalf up the middle and they got paid to execute plays, but it all starts with the line and blocking or plays don't work no matter what you think should be called. Watch the trenches and see what is happening there.

riders1

Posts: 2,275

Oct 23, 2011 1:23am

Wow, what a weekend for the green teams, Smithville with the upset Friday night and Michigan State with the "HAIL MARY" reviewed TD on the last play to beat Wisconsin.

5knots

Posts: 1,474

Oct 23, 2011 8:44am

Stu was maybe 70% for the game Friday. Watch the replays and you will see how gingerly he is moving around. Best thing about this week is the extra day!!!!! This will do wonders for Dru and Stu's injuries. Gotta get healthy. I guess a good way of looking at things is we still have not found our offensive rhythm and yet we sit #2 in the region. let's keep hoping we get it solved

Old Rider

Posts: 2,470

Oct 23, 2011 8:50am

Brenner at QB
Sommers to fullback or tight end or both
Lemmon needs to play offense more
Weaver needs more touches
Stu needs WAY more touches

Short passes, some play action, some mis-direction runs, use the tight end, wildcat, and an actual offensive coordinator!

SOLVED!

riders1

Posts: 2,275

Oct 23, 2011 9:52am

5 turnovers will kill any offense it doesn't matter who or what plays are called , it is still execution and Brenner at QB is not solving the offensive "problem", it starts on the line and goes on from there. But 5 turnovers takes away alot of offensive plays and possiblly 35 points. So all players must execute the play and DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER and your offense will look alot better. Just like on defense if all 11 don't execute their assignments you give up yards and points, like an open man in the endzone or stupid personal fouls to keep drives going. SO DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER!!!!!

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Red Rider Nation

Posts: 1,085

Oct 23, 2011 9:55am

Old Rider;942116 wrote:Brenner at QB
Sommers to fullback or tight end or both
Lemmon needs to play offense more
Weaver needs more touches
Stu needs WAY more touches

Short passes, some play action, some mis-direction runs, use the tight end, wildcat, and an actual offensive coordinator!

SOLVED!

You are 100% right about all!

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Red Rider81

Posts: 80

Oct 23, 2011 2:35pm

Red Rider Nation;942169 wrote:You are 100% right about all!

I agree those moves would solve many of the problems on offense, I really like the sommers to fullback move that would be great. He is a very tough runner. Isn't fullback his natural position ? If so why isn't he playing there now.

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Red Rider81

Posts: 80

Oct 23, 2011 2:41pm

Red Rider Nation;941758 wrote:Agreed. He avoided your question. You are right Red Rider 81. I heard their fans calling out what we were about to do and thats bad. We have got to stop being predictable. Didnt we throw a screen pass to Stew Turner last week for a touchdown? I saw none of that last night. Really makes you wonder!

Thanks Red Rider Nation, I thought it was a logical question. Nice to see someone else is able to see the same things i do.

riders1

Posts: 2,275

Oct 23, 2011 4:04pm

I see a team that is 6-3 ( not a losing record )and secured a home playoff game in week 9 and you want to change everything around at this point :laugh:

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Red Rider Nation

Posts: 1,085

Oct 23, 2011 4:17pm

riders1;942635 wrote:I see a team that is 6-3 ( not a losing record )and secured a home playoff game in week 9 and you want to change everything around at this point :laugh:

Really? Change everything? No just our offense. Stop being absent minded! With this offense we cannot continue to win games. Remember in 2 weeks we will be playing much better competition!

riders1

Posts: 2,275

Oct 23, 2011 4:47pm

Ohio Division 4, Region 13

2011 Unofficial Rankings

Latest update: 10/23/2011 4:25:06 PM EDT

Important notes about the "playoff status" feature

Scores: Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6 Week 7 Week 8 Week 9

View the official OHSAA rankings (after week 4) by clicking here.

Rank	W-L	ID #	City	School	Average	Level 1	Level 2	L2 divisor	Playoff Status (unofficial)	max Avg (win out)	min Avg (win out)	max Avg (lose out)	min Avg (lose out)	L2 divisor (final)
1	8-1	644	Girard	Girard	20.6556	36.5	166.0	100	clinched home game	23.7000	21.2000	23.2500	20.7500	100
2	6-3	1210	Orrville	Orrville	17.4833	30.0	141.5	100	clinched playoff spot	22.4500	20.2000	19.8500	17.6000	100
3	8-1	1174	Creston	Norwayne	16.2278	34.0	124.5	100	clinched playoff spot	22.4000	20.6000	18.4000	16.6000	100
4	7-2	226	Sullivan	Black River	15.2056	32.0	116.5	100	clinched playoff spot	17.9500	15.7500	17.5000	15.3000	100
5	8-1	256	Brookfield	Brookfield	13.9444	35.5	98.0	98	control own destiny	17.6214	15.0194	16.6112	14.0092	98
6	8-1	340	Canton	Canton Central Catholic	13.3039	38.0	89.0	98	control own destiny	19.3020	15.6796	16.5041	12.8816	98
7	6-3	936	Akron	Manchester	11.8167	28.5	86.5	100	control own destiny	17.2000	16.1500	13.4500	12.4000	100
8	5-4	818	Leavittsburg	LaBrae	11.7944	22.0	93.5	100	.	14.9500	13.5000	13.4000	11.9500	100
9	6-3	384	Cleveland	Cleveland Central Catholic	11.2677	25.5	83.5	99	.	15.9793	14.8682	12.8530	11.7419	99
10	5-4	828	Cortland	Lakeview	9.5170	25.5	65.5	98	.	13.1031	10.7320	11.6737	9.3026	97
11	5-4	1496	Streetsboro	Streetsboro	9.4278	25.0	66.5	100	.	12.5500	11.2000	11.0000	9.6500	100
12	6-3	170	Beachwood	Beachwood	8.7273	24.0	60.0	99	.	14.8692	12.2934	11.0364	8.4606

OQB

Posts: 6,679

Oct 23, 2011 4:48pm

Red Rider Nation;942671 wrote:Really? Change everything? No just our offense. Stop being absent minded! With this offense we cannot continue to win games. Remember in 2 weeks we will be playing much better competition!

I agree that SOME things need changed....I do however disagree with this post, because we have continued to win games with this offense...how we are able to is because of our defense bottom line.

If this team and I know they do, want to make a run in the playoffs they will have to EXECUTE and that is simply what it is coming down to execution on offense. I trust our coaches to call the right plays and put our players in the right spot to succeed, now the players have to execute.

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Diehard Rider Fan

Posts: 75

Oct 23, 2011 5:42pm

Brenner at qb? I had to look twice to see if that post came after the game Friday night. Maybe in a wildcat on occasion but you have to be out of your mind if you think its a permanent solution. Passing with him is not an option.

5knots

Posts: 1,474

Oct 23, 2011 5:52pm

And you know this because you have been at practice and evaluated him?????? If so, you must have been hiding in the woods???? Drew is a very good option to have and the extra day of rest could not have come at a better time for him.

OQB

Posts: 6,679

Oct 23, 2011 6:40pm

I don't think we need to attend practice to see what everyone can do....I know I base my opinions on what I see on the field every Friday night....same with just about everyone on here except for a few. You can be an All-American practice player but if it doesn't transfer over to games on Friday nights then who cares what happens in practice? Just my opinion of course.

1_beast

Posts: 5,642

Oct 23, 2011 6:47pm

OQB;942813 wrote:I don't think we need to attend practice to see what everyone can do....I know I base my opinions on what I see on the field every Friday night....same with just about everyone on here except for a few. You can be an All-American practice player but if it doesn't transfer over to games on Friday nights then who cares what happens in practice? Just my opinion of course.

Well said!

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Series62

Posts: 812

Oct 23, 2011 7:37pm

OQB;942813 wrote:I don't think we need to attend practice to see what everyone can do....I know I base my opinions on what I see on the field every Friday night....same with just about everyone on here except for a few. You can be an All-American practice player but if it doesn't transfer over to games on Friday nights then who cares what happens in practice? Just my opinion of course.

Talk to him OQB!