Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 21, 2010 7:35pm
1 Oregon .9764
2 Auburn .9682
3 TCU .8995
4 Boise State .8860
5 LSU .8193
6 Stanford .7763
7 Wisconsin .7688
8 Ohio State .7148
9 Oklahoma State .6815
10 Michigan State .6063
11 Alabama .6019
12 Arkansas .5697
13 Oklahoma .5041
14 Missouri .4564
15 Nebraska .4423
16 Virginia Tech .4213
17 Texas A&M .3607
18 South Carolina .3583
19 Nevada .2943
20 Utah .1961
21 Arizona .1848
22 Florida State .1296
23 North Carolina State .0923
24 Iowa .0899
25 Mississippi State .0862
2 Auburn .9682
3 TCU .8995
4 Boise State .8860
5 LSU .8193
6 Stanford .7763
7 Wisconsin .7688
8 Ohio State .7148
9 Oklahoma State .6815
10 Michigan State .6063
11 Alabama .6019
12 Arkansas .5697
13 Oklahoma .5041
14 Missouri .4564
15 Nebraska .4423
16 Virginia Tech .4213
17 Texas A&M .3607
18 South Carolina .3583
19 Nevada .2943
20 Utah .1961
21 Arizona .1848
22 Florida State .1296
23 North Carolina State .0923
24 Iowa .0899
25 Mississippi State .0862
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 21, 2010 7:36pm
Looks about right other than I don't think LSU or Stanford are really that great.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 21, 2010 7:41pm
LSU @ Arkansas could be a big game next week in terms of the Rose Bowl, since they are between Wisconsin and OSU in the human polls. An LSU loss could be enough for the Bucks to pass Wisky up (I really have no idea how the calculations work... but it would definitely make things close).
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 21, 2010 7:44pm
I just noticed that Stanford jumped Ohio State in the Harris Poll. Talk about a joke. Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa.
Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.
Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 21, 2010 8:15pm
If Wisconsin wins Saturday,they go to the Rose Bowl,plain and simple
If OSU jumps Wisconsin,it would be complete and total BS
If OSU jumps Wisconsin,it would be complete and total BS
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 21, 2010 8:18pm
Ty Webb;570037 wrote:If Wisconsin wins Saturday,they go to the Rose Bowl,plain and simple
If OSU jumps Wisconsin,it would be complete and total BS
No way OSU jumps Wisky if both win...that would be a travesty.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 21, 2010 8:20pm
I agree,but would it really suprise you?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 21, 2010 8:21pm
This week and Friday will really start to clear up things.
No problem with the standings really.
No problem with the standings really.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 21, 2010 8:23pm
I cannot think of any plausible scenario where if both teams won, OSU would make up the over .05 difference and jump Wisconsin.Ty Webb;570048 wrote:I agree,but would it really suprise you?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 21, 2010 8:24pm
Ty Webb;570048 wrote:I agree,but would it really suprise you?
Honestly, it would. A head to head beatdown should be enough. And on the money side of things, Wisky is a pretty decent draw(from what I have heard), so any bowl would be tickled to have them.
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purple_rein
Posts: 349
Nov 21, 2010 8:30pm
The simple counter-argument:Cleveland Buck;569986 wrote:I just noticed that Stanford jumped Ohio State in the Harris Poll. Talk about a joke. Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa.
Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 21, 2010 8:34pm
Cleveland Buck;569986 wrote:I just noticed that Stanford jumped Ohio State in the Harris Poll. Talk about a joke. Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa.
Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.
They beat the team that beat Iowa (Arizona). It seems about right to me. As of right now, they both have beaten only 1 ranked team, and Stanford's ranked team is ranked higher than OSU's ranked team. Also Stanford has the "better" loss.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 21, 2010 8:35pm
purple_rein;570073 wrote:The simple counter-argument:
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17
Simple is a good word. Meaningless is a better one.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 21, 2010 8:41pm
purple_rein;570073 wrote:The simple counter-argument:
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17
that makes about as much sense as..
Oregon 38, Purdue 36
Oregon 47, USC 20
Ohio State 15, USC 18
Ohio State 18, Purdue 26
Ohio State 27, Oregon 16
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 21, 2010 9:34pm
i don't think Wisconsin loses at home on Senior Day against a banged up Northwestern who just got shredded for 330 on the ground by Illinois..
although I'll certainly be rooting for it to happen.
I don't know if Michigan State wins on Saturday either. They're 0-8 all time in Happy Valley.
And I certainly think that LSU is ripe to go down against Arkansas
although I'll certainly be rooting for it to happen.
I don't know if Michigan State wins on Saturday either. They're 0-8 all time in Happy Valley.
And I certainly think that LSU is ripe to go down against Arkansas
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purple_rein
Posts: 349
Nov 22, 2010 3:59pm
You said "Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa."Cleveland Buck;570081 wrote:Simple is a good word. Meaningless is a better one.
They crushed a team better than Iowa. Refute with facts please.
gamauter
Posts: 116
Nov 22, 2010 6:17pm
If Wisconsin should go over Ohio State why shouldn't MSU go over Wisconsin?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 22, 2010 8:02pm
gamauter;571400 wrote:If Wisconsin should go over Ohio State why shouldn't MSU go over Wisconsin?
MSU has the worst loss between the 3.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 22, 2010 8:06pm
purple_rein;571211 wrote:You said "Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa."
They crushed a team better than Iowa. Refute with facts please.
Do you honestly believe that just because a team beat another team on a random ass Saturday, it makes them a better team??
Simple example, Iowa lost to Northwestern.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 22, 2010 8:07pm
wildcats20;571566 wrote:Do you honestly believe that just because a team beat another team on a random ass Saturday, it makes them a better team??
Simple example, Iowa lost to Northwestern.
No, but unfortunately the way college football works, that is the only thing we can go by.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 22, 2010 8:14pm
like_that;571569 wrote:No, but unfortunately the way college football works, that is the only thing we can go by.
+1. Without a playoff, we're forced to make these kinds of comparisons
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 22, 2010 8:17pm
Oh, well that's a relief. I thought there was going to be all kinds of debate on if Boise State is deserving of a shot at the national title, but their best win is against a team worse than James Madison, so I guess that means they aren't deserving.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 22, 2010 8:22pm
Cleveland Buck;571593 wrote:Oh, well that's a relief. I thought there was going to be all kinds of debate on if Boise State is deserving of a shot at the national title, but their best win is against a team worse than James Madison, so I guess that means they aren't deserving.
Va Tech lost to James Madison
Ohio State beat Miami
Va Tech beat Miami
How does James Madison stack up against Ohio State?
I love hearing fellow Buckeye fans bash Boise State/TCU's schedule. If Ohio State doesn't win the Big 10 championship, we can at least hang our hat on the fact that we were MAC champions this year.
namod65
Posts: 508
Nov 22, 2010 8:23pm
like_that;571569 wrote:No, but unfortunately the way college football works, that is the only thing we can go by.
Or we could just do the easiest thing which was stated first: look at the quality of teams that each team has beaten.
Don't try to validate the transitive property by adding a fourth variable to the equation. That only makes it less accurate that it already is by adding more variable change. That makes it more complicated than simple.Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 22, 2010 8:25pm
jordo212000;571600 wrote:Va Tech lost to James Madison
Ohio State beat Miami
Va Tech beat Miami
How does James Madison stack up against Ohio State?
I love hearing fellow Buckeye fans bash Boise State/TCU's schedule. If Ohio State doesn't win the Big 10 championship, we can at least hang our hat on the fact that we were MAC champions this year.
I know you love to rip Ohio State, but I didn't mention them. Just so we are clear, Virginia Tech is worse than James Madison, correct?