Is it time for private schools to have theyre own playoffs in football

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Sonofanump
Jan 14, 2011 5:05pm
Heretic;638527 wrote:It'll be good for Shadyside, as St. John's won't be around to crush them.

They will still have MSML or Ada or Moggy to crush them.
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sherm03
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Jan 14, 2011 5:10pm
queencitybuckeye;638479 wrote:The Hilliard City School District will be casting three votes against the measure. I would suspect that the vast majority of the fellow OCC schools will as well, but don't know that for a fact.

What the hell?!?! What have I been embracing all this time?!?! I thought the votes were there?!?!?!
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queencitybuckeye
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Jan 14, 2011 5:13pm
sherm03;638565 wrote:What the hell?!?! What have I been embracing all this time?!?! I thought the votes were there?!?!?!

I'll do some embracing in the event I'm wrong and they do have the votes. :)
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rmolin73
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Jan 14, 2011 5:20pm
What? I've been embracing the change and the votes may not be there?
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Viking
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Jan 14, 2011 5:29pm
The votes are there. Does anybody want to make a friendly wager?
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fish82
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Jan 14, 2011 5:53pm
We're all too busy embracing stuff to engage in gambling.
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sherm03
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Jan 14, 2011 11:45pm
My wife walked in on me "embracing the change"...so I'm sleeping on the couch tonight.
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Delphosfan
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Jan 15, 2011 9:58am
Viking;638580 wrote:The votes are there. Does anybody want to make a friendly wager?
I'll bet you that the schools that did all the whining and brought about this rule will still not be able to win a state title.
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Viking
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Jan 15, 2011 1:38pm
Delphosfan;638940 wrote:I'll bet you that the schools that did all the whining and brought about this rule will still not be able to win a state title.

You miss the whole point of the proposal. The proposal is a recognition of the vast inequities that exist in the current system. The proposal is only going to give many rural and urban schools a greater opportunity to be successful.
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Delphosfan
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Jan 15, 2011 2:31pm
Viking;639099 wrote: The proposal is only going to give many rural and urban schools a greater opportunity to be successful.
Only because those ruran and urban schools won't have to face other rural and urban schools who work harder than they do.

DSJ has been villified in discussions and articles on this proposal because of our win over Shadyside. If anyone thinks that if this rule had been in place this year and put DSJ in Div V that Shadyside would have won a state title, they are out of their mind. And if it did allow Shadyside to win a state title, how sad.
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queencitybuckeye
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Jan 15, 2011 3:11pm
Nothing wrong with Shadyside winning a state title by not having to play the best.

As long as the trophy is shaped like a juice box.
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Viking
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Jan 15, 2011 3:41pm
Will somebody please explain to me how this proposal will negatively effect privte schools? Since there isn't an automatic multiplier schools like Lutheran East will be left alone or perhaps even drop a division.
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Al Bundy
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Jan 15, 2011 3:44pm
Viking;639206 wrote:Will somebody please explain to me how this proposal will negatively effect privte schools? Since there isn't an automatic multiplier schools like Lutheran East will be left alone or perhaps even drop a division.

There hasn't been a specific formula released so we have no idea which division any school will end up in.
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rmolin73
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Jan 15, 2011 4:10pm
But wait I thought that you were aware of the changes viking and had embraced them?
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GoChiefs
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Jan 15, 2011 4:41pm
rmolin73;639229 wrote:But wait I thought that you were aware of the changes viking and had embraced them?

The votes are in!
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Delphosfan
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Jan 15, 2011 4:45pm
Viking;639206 wrote:Will somebody please explain to me how this proposal will negatively effect privte schools? Since there isn't an automatic multiplier schools like Lutheran East will be left alone or perhaps even drop a division.
The OHSAA commissioner was on a local radio sports talk show last week. According to what he said, there will be automatic multipliers although we don't know what those exact numbers are yet. In the Geographical Boundaries category you have: unboundaried private schools, boundaried private schools, statewide open enrollment publics, adjacent OE publics and non-OE publics. Each of these will have a multiplier and I'd be willing to bet the highest starts with unboundaried private schools. All school will have a multiplier although the lowest will likely be 1. Unless I totally misunderstood him I believe this to be the case.
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Be Nice
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Jan 15, 2011 5:05pm
Delphosfan;639262 wrote:The OHSAA commissioner was on a local radio sports talk show last week. According to what he said, there will be automatic multipliers although we don't know what those exact numbers are yet. In the Geographical Boundaries category you have: unboundaried private schools, boundaried private schools, statewide open enrollment publics, adjacent OE publics and non-OE publics. Each of these will have a multiplier and I'd be willing to bet the highest starts with unboundaried private schools. All school will have a multiplier although the lowest will likely be 1. Unless I totally misunderstood him I believe this to be the case.

...and change is a com'in for the better.
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GoChiefs
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Jan 15, 2011 5:13pm
Be Nice;639311 wrote:...and change is a com'in for the better.

Embrace it!
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bigorangebuck22
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Jan 16, 2011 5:53am
Viking;639099 wrote:You miss the whole point of the proposal. The proposal is a recognition of the vast inequities that exist in the current system. The proposal is only going to give many rural and urban schools a greater opportunity to be successful.
How is it going to give rural and urban schools with open-enrollment and that are on the higher end numbers wise of their division now a greater chance to succeed? They'll be moving up to. The whole thing is stupid. How in the world did little Hardin Northern ever beat 3 private schools (Cincy Country Day, Springfield Catholic, Norwalk St. Paul) in 2004 to win a title?
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Viking
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Jan 16, 2011 9:07am
^^^

It depends what type of open enrollment the district has. There are 3 different categories for the open enrollment part of the equation, plus the "free lunch" factor will act as a divider.
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Al Bundy
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Jan 16, 2011 9:36am
Viking;640083 wrote:^^^

It depends what type of open enrollment the district has. There are 3 different categories for the open enrollment part of the equation, plus the "free lunch" factor will act as a divider.
because no one receiving free lunches can be a good football player :) That might be the dumbest part of the proposal. The NFL is full of guys who have come from extremely poor backgrounds.
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Viking
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Jan 16, 2011 11:02am
^^^

Poverty adveresly affects the number of kids available. I'd explain it, but I can tell that you don't really care. You obviously don't have a clue about urban districts or poor rural districts.
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sherm03
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Jan 16, 2011 12:32pm
Question for you Viking...

My dad said that if I keep embracing the change, I'm going to go blind. Is that true?
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rmolin73
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Jan 16, 2011 12:43pm
Viking;640083 wrote:^^^

It depends what type of open enrollment the district has. There are 3 different categories for the open enrollment part of the equation, plus the "free lunch" factor will act as a divider.

Then you have no clue about Hardin Northern. That year they barely had 25 players on the roster some of them being freshmen.
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Al Bundy
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Jan 16, 2011 12:47pm
Viking;640137 wrote:^^^

Poverty adveresly affects the number of kids available. I'd explain it, but I can tell that you don't really care. You obviously don't have a clue about urban districts or poor rural districts.

A count is done to determine the number of kids available. If an urban school has less kids, they would be placed into a lower division.