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Mrs.Mustang
Posts: 53
Sep 1, 2011 8:36am
Where's the "beating the dead horse"cartoon.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Sep 1, 2011 9:41am
Let everybody play ... Im ok with the same playoffs but atleast put the juggernauts like Mooney and Ursulin in higher divisions since they get the best kids in a huge metro areaDean Wormer;879039 wrote:Unless you play for a parochial school. Then you get punished by some stupid multiplier or separate playoffs. Thick you kill me. What is it. Let em play or punish the parochial schools?
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Sep 1, 2011 10:00am
There lies the problem.Thinthickbigred;879111 wrote:Let everybody play ... Im ok with the same playoffs but atleast put the juggernauts like Mooney and Ursulin in higher divisions since they get the best kids in a huge metro area
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Sep 1, 2011 10:50am
What problem ????? ITs the way it is ... Im not worried about them teams for my teams sake ... Big Red will handle itself .. Im talking about the other schools .. Ive already explained this before ... I dont care about playing either of those teams ...its all good .. you misundersatnd me .. you really dormolin73;879133 wrote:There lies the problem.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 1, 2011 11:08am
Say you took Ursuline and St. John's out of the equation in divisons 5 and 6. The title will still still be won by good MAC teams. Those teams have beaten Ursuline in the state final and compete against St. John's in conference play. You are basically asking for a system that will give state titles to bad teams. The titles aren't going to be distributed evenly if you take out a couple of teams. You will still have good teams and bad teams.Thinthickbigred;879189 wrote:What problem ????? ITs the way it is ... Im not worried about them teams for my teams sake ... Big Red will handle itself .. Im talking about the other schools .. Ive already explained this before ... I dont care about playing either of those teams ...its all good .. you misundersatnd me .. you really do
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Sep 1, 2011 11:10am
Then let those schools speak for themselves. Other that it sounds like sour grapes. The MAC schools have no problem. Why don't teams try and emulate them?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Sep 1, 2011 11:24am
Our school has been beaten by a private school in the state finals three times.
But they have also beaten a private school twice in the state finals as well.
We have also beaten a number of private schools on the playoff runs.
It def creates a david vs goliath mentality for the public school
It can be tough going against them, but I dont think there should be separate divisions for the both. Maybe some sort of multiplier for a private school with how wide ranging their enrollment is or whatnot.
BUt...i would rather not see separate divisions.
But they have also beaten a private school twice in the state finals as well.
We have also beaten a number of private schools on the playoff runs.
It def creates a david vs goliath mentality for the public school
It can be tough going against them, but I dont think there should be separate divisions for the both. Maybe some sort of multiplier for a private school with how wide ranging their enrollment is or whatnot.
BUt...i would rather not see separate divisions.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 1, 2011 11:38am
A multiplier is fine, but Open Enrollment schools should also be part of any multiplier system since they can also draw from all over.thavoice;879233 wrote:Our school has been beaten by a private school in the state finals three times.
But they have also beaten a private school twice in the state finals as well.
We have also beaten a number of private schools on the playoff runs.
It def creates a david vs goliath mentality for the public school
It can be tough going against them, but I dont think there should be separate divisions for the both. Maybe some sort of multiplier for a private school with how wide ranging their enrollment is or whatnot.
BUt...i would rather not see separate divisions.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Sep 1, 2011 12:27pm
Exactly. The people that act like private schools have some huge advantage over open enrollment schools are out of their mind. Go ahead and put a multiplier that isnt designed to screw just private schools, or allow any school (private or parochial) to move up voluntarily.Al Bundy;879257 wrote:A multiplier is fine, but Open Enrollment schools should also be part of any multiplier system since they can also draw from all over.
I would have been ok with the previous proposal is it didn't include the tradition factor, the free lunch factor, and the fact that OE schools were weighted differently from private schools.
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Rocket08
Posts: 645
Sep 2, 2011 1:51pm
Skunk
Your best player on defense is a kid named Taylor
He's from Canton. He "just happened" to show up at Massillon
Please explain how that's not an unfair advantage for your team
Then, look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary (that's a book with a whole bunch of words) Look at the definition - - that's you
Your best player on defense is a kid named Taylor
He's from Canton. He "just happened" to show up at Massillon
Please explain how that's not an unfair advantage for your team
Then, look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary (that's a book with a whole bunch of words) Look at the definition - - that's you
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 2, 2011 5:46pm
After last night it looks like they need to bring a few more Canton kids.Rocket08;880522 wrote:Skunk
Your best player on defense is a kid named Taylor
He's from Canton. He "just happened" to show up at Massillon
Please explain how that's not an unfair advantage for your team
Then, look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary (that's a book with a whole bunch of words) Look at the definition - - that's you
skank
Posts: 6,543
Sep 2, 2011 6:52pm
Rocket08;880522 wrote:Skunk
Your best player on defense is a kid named Taylor
He's from Canton. He "just happened" to show up at Massillon
Please explain how that's not an unfair advantage for your team
Then, look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary (that's a book with a whole bunch of words) Look at the definition - - that's you
The guy who OCCASIONALLY uses punctuation is going to tell me about a book with a "whole bunch of words"?
You had better use your "book with a whole bunch of words". Can't find it? Maybe it's behind the book with a whole bunch of Jr. High football players names from the surrounding areas.
skank
Posts: 6,543
Sep 2, 2011 6:55pm
Al Bundy;880805 wrote:After last night it looks like they need to bring a few more Canton kids.
Bringing in kids from the surrounding area doesn't mean success is definate, although it has worked out well for YOUR school.
skank
Posts: 6,543
Sep 2, 2011 7:00pm
Al Bundy;880805 wrote:After last night it looks like they need to bring a few more Canton kids.
Did you actually see the game? If so, I think it was nice of sherm to give you permission to go....Or....I hope I just didn't get you in trouble....Sorry.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Sep 2, 2011 7:08pm
Funny that you COMPLETELY ignore his point about your hypocritical views. Rally against Mooney and Ursuline for "getting kids from Boardman, Struthers, etc." yet ignore the fact that you have kids from outside Massillon on your team.skank;880852 wrote:The guy who OCCASIONALLY uses punctuation is going to tell me about a book with a "whole bunch of words"?
You had better use your "book with a whole bunch of words". Can't find it? Maybe it's behind the book with a whole bunch of Jr. High football players names from the surrounding areas.
You're about as big of a joke as thinthick, now.
skank
Posts: 6,543
Sep 2, 2011 8:08pm
sherm03;880860 wrote:Funny that you COMPLETELY ignore his point about your hypocritical views. Rally against Mooney and Ursuline for "getting kids from Boardman, Struthers, etc." yet ignore the fact that you have kids from outside Massillon on your team.
You're about as big of a joke as thinthick, now.
What do you want me to say? We've been through this, Massillon does not hold combines with the intent on attracting kids to their school, despite what rocket or bundy, I forget which, says, (you really need to do a better job of identifying your #4 guy and your #6 guy). I don't know about the Y'town schools, (I'm sure they do something of the sort), but I'm talking about the Cleveland area parochials, the story was a 4 or 6 parter in the Plain Dealer several years ago. More later.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 2, 2011 8:25pm
http://rise.espn.go.com/football/articles/2011/02/12-Ohio-combine-recap.aspxskank;880880 wrote:What do you want me to say? We've been through this, Massillon does not hold combines with the intent on attracting kids to their school, despite what rocket or bundy, I forget which, says, (you really need to do a better job of identifying your #4 guy and your #6 guy). I don't know about the Y'town schools, (I'm sure they do something of the sort), but I'm talking about the Cleveland area parochials, the story was a 4 or 6 parter in the Plain Dealer several years ago. More later.
I know I have you told several times (but you have a bad memory and keep forgetting). I am a public school guy.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Sep 2, 2011 9:50pm
Congrats Al on your Hollywood Star
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Rocket08
Posts: 645
Sep 2, 2011 11:37pm
You're not sure of anything. You think/ hope that Youngstown schools have combines etc. but you have no ideaskank;880880 wrote: I don't know about the Y'town schools, (I'm sure they do something of the sort), but I'm talking about the Cleveland area parochials, the story was a 4 or 6 parter in the Plain Dealer several years ago. More later.
As usual, you just make crap up, and it makes you look stupid
BTW, your post was pretty poorly laid out, with multiple errors. You might want to tighten that up a bit. It's a bad reflection on the stellar education that was provided to you by your outstanding school system
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Sep 2, 2011 11:47pm
How would a multiplier apply to a D1 school with open enrollment?Al Bundy;879257 wrote:A multiplier is fine, but Open Enrollment schools should also be part of any multiplier system since they can also draw from all over.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Sep 2, 2011 11:57pm
The same way it would apply to a D1 parochial...it wouldn't.Gardens35;881170 wrote:How would a multiplier apply to a D1 school with open enrollment?
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 3, 2011 12:10am
You would still have to multiply before you divided up the divisions. A D1 school that doesn't have open enrollment may be passed up by a D2 with open enrollment after recalculating the numbers. A D1 school with open enrollment would still stay D1.Gardens35;881170 wrote:How would a multiplier apply to a D1 school with open enrollment?
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Sep 3, 2011 12:23am
Thanks.Al Bundy;881216 wrote:You would still have to multiply before you divided up the divisions. A D1 school that doesn't have open enrollment may be passed up by a D2 with open enrollment after recalculating the numbers. A D1 school with open enrollment would still stay D1.
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Mortgagestar1
Posts: 117
Sep 5, 2011 12:52pm
Go to PBS oNline & watch Football High. Great documentary. They show several high school teams that would destroy 99% of ANY Ohio team, or Pennsylvania for that matter.
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gbigg
Posts: 25
Sep 5, 2011 7:20pm
If that's the case it doesn't show when they come to Ohio and play