j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Nov 10, 2010 12:25pm
This is according to the Department of the Interior, which prior to BP Macondo, had oversight of Drilliing in Outer Continental Shelf waters.
Enjoy this read. Link
Enjoy this read. Link
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Nov 10, 2010 1:09pm
Obama promised that he would guided by science, not ideology," Cassidy said. Cassidy said if that were true thousands of jobs and billions in economic activity would have been preserved on the Gulf coast.
Don't let a catastrophe go to waste!
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 10, 2010 3:23pm
Not surprising.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 10, 2010 3:31pm
Obama's administration lying about something.
Yeah, that's shocking.
Yeah, that's shocking.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 4:00pm
Writerbuckeye;552826 wrote:Obama's administration lying about something.
Yeah, that's shocking.
Ohh...maybe you forgot about Bush completely lying about WMD's to get us into war with Iraq??
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Nov 10, 2010 4:06pm
Ty Webb;552877 wrote:Ohh...maybe you forgot about Bush completely lying about WMD's to get us into war with Iraq??
Thank you for reminding us that the left always compares BHO with the person they claim is the worst president in history. Nice level-set.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 4:20pm
But it's ok for you guys to act like Obama is the only President who has lies EVER
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Nov 10, 2010 4:24pm
Just so we're clear then...you're okay with Obama lying because other presidents have?Ty Webb;552908 wrote:But it's ok for you guys to act like Obama is the only President who has lies EVER
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Nov 10, 2010 4:24pm
Ty Webb;552908 wrote:But it's ok for you guys to act like Obama is the only President who has lies EVER
I'm not "you guys". I actually have higher expectations for the officials I voted for, not lower. I was hugely disappointed in GWB, while having no positive expectation at all for BHO. Sad to say, he hasn't surprised me much.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Nov 10, 2010 4:35pm
Ty Webb;552908 wrote:But it's ok for you guys to act like Obama is the only President who has lies EVER
Honestly, Ty/Gibby/et al....is this all you have??? Can't refute what is in the article, so you just state that others have done it to?
BTW...Fab owned your ass.....
Now, back to the topic at hand......Fab4Runner;552914 wrote:Just so we're clear then...you're okay with Obama lying because other presidents have?
This.queencitybuckeye;552913 wrote:I'm not "you guys". I actually have higher expectations for the officials I voted for, not lower. I was hugely disappointed in GWB, while having no positive expectation at all for BHO. Sad to say, he hasn't surprised me much.
I said when BHO was elected that I hoped that I wanted to vote for him in 2011...I desperately wanted him to do so well that I was moved to give him another 4 years in the White House.
Not so much.....
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 4:40pm
Fab4Runner;552914 wrote:Just so we're clear then...you're okay with Obama lying because other presidents have?
No...I have a problem with Republicans point out every little thing wrong Obama does,but they are perfectly fine with GWB lying to get us into a war that has cost us almost two trillion dollars and almost 4,500 lives
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Nov 10, 2010 4:43pm
So what is your position on the subject of this thread?Ty Webb;552929 wrote:No...I have a problem with Republicans point out every little thing wrong Obama does,but they are perfectly fine with GWB kying to get us into a war that has cost us almost two trillion dollars and almost 4,500 lives
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 4:44pm
It's 100% wrong what he did...
But....did any of you care to read this part
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations, and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
The report also says the engineer that levied the concerns accepted Salazar's explanation that the language was a mistake rather than an intentional attempt to use the peer-reviewers' names to justify a political decision.
Also,don't make this out to be like a bunch of people are coming after him. It's two Louisiana congressmen and Bobby Jindal
But....did any of you care to read this part
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations, and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
The report also says the engineer that levied the concerns accepted Salazar's explanation that the language was a mistake rather than an intentional attempt to use the peer-reviewers' names to justify a political decision.
Also,don't make this out to be like a bunch of people are coming after him. It's two Louisiana congressmen and Bobby Jindal
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 10, 2010 5:07pm
You people are funny.Ty Webb;552929 wrote:No...I have a problem with Republicans point out every little thing wrong Obama does,but they are perfectly fine with GWB lying to get us into a war that has cost us almost two trillion dollars and almost 4,500 lives
I'm honestly convinced you have this mental picture in your head of a smoke-filled room....Dubya, Darth and Rummy sipping cognac and saying "Well, it looks like there are no WMDs...let's just lie and say he has them. It's not like we'll get busted in the end or anything...."
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Nov 10, 2010 5:07pm
Just remind me one more time... Durning the Bush years of 2002 Iraq both the Congress and Senate where Democrat Majority yes or no?
If I remember the vote was Senate 77-23 and the Congress 296-133
..... If you want to place a blame you may start with your own Party..... Bush did not go to the dance alone.....
If I remember the vote was Senate 77-23 and the Congress 296-133
..... If you want to place a blame you may start with your own Party..... Bush did not go to the dance alone.....
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 10, 2010 5:08pm
Cool. So best case...Salazar is a farking idiot.Ty Webb;552931 wrote:It's 100% wrong what he did...
But....did any of you care to read this part
The inspector general's report, which was originally requested by Vitter and Rep. Steve Scalise in June, said the administration did not violate federal rules because the executive summary did not say the experts approved the recommendations, and the department offered a formal apology and had publicly clarified the nature of the expert review.
The report also says the engineer that levied the concerns accepted Salazar's explanation that the language was a mistake rather than an intentional attempt to use the peer-reviewers' names to justify a political decision.
Also,don't make this out to be like a bunch of people are coming after him. It's two Louisiana congressmen and Bobby Jindal
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 5:10pm
Belly35;552953 wrote:Just remind me one more time... Durning the Bush years of 2002 Iraq both the Congress and Senate where Democrat Majority yes or no?
If I remember the vote was Senate 77-23 and the Congress 296-133
..... If you want to place a blame you may start with your own Party..... Bush did not go to the dance alone.....
I never said Bush wasn't a convincing liar
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 5:10pm
fish82;552952 wrote:You people are funny.
I'm honestly convinced you have this mental picture in your head of a smoke-filled room....Dubya, Darth and Rummy sipping cognac and saying "Well, it looks like there are no WMDs...let's just lie and say he has them. It's not like we'll get busted in the end or anything...."
Show me proof that they ever have WMD's...until then Bush is a farking liar
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 10, 2010 5:27pm
You mean apart from the times where he gassed his own people?Ty Webb;552958 wrote:Show me proof that they ever have WMD's...until then Bush is a farking liar
believer
Posts: 8,153
Nov 10, 2010 5:41pm
Apparently Bush believed the same lies provided to him by American and British intelligence sources. You know, the same lies that the Clinton's, Kerry, Daschle, Harkin, Albright, Berger, Byrd, Edwards, Gore, and many other Democrats believed well before "W" took office. Those liars too right?Ty Webb;552956 wrote:I never said Bush wasn't a convincing liar
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 10, 2010 6:27pm
fish82;552972 wrote:You mean apart from the times where he gassed his own people?
Game.Set.Match.
It's not like THE WHOLE FUCKING FREE WORLD didn't believe he had WMD or anything, right? Do we have to go back and link that long, long list of DEMOCRATS WHO HONESTLY BELIEVED Iraq had WMD and needed taking out?
This isn't about Bush, anyway. When are you libs going to MOVE ON (.org) and accept responsibility for the government YOU HAVE IN PLACE NOW?
Such a whiny ass bunch.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Nov 10, 2010 6:39pm
Gibby, as my momma always said "Just because they jumped off a bridge it doesn't mean you have to". Keep up the good work though; the more and more Obama loyalists fail any accountability they more likely BHO will be out of the White House in 2012 and starting his new gig taking over Olbermann's time slot on MSNBC.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 7:11pm
fish82;552972 wrote:You mean apart from the times where he gassed his own people?
A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large numbers of humans (and other life forms) and/or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere in general
Gas is intended to kill small number of people at a time. There for...Gas isn't a WMD
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 10, 2010 7:13pm
believer;552981 wrote:Apparently Bush believed the same lies provided to him by American and British intelligence sources. You know, the same lies that the Clinton's, Kerry, Daschle, Harkin, Albright, Berger, Byrd, Edwards, Gore, and many other Democrats believed well before "W" took office. Those liars too right?
Why was Bush so quick to believe these lies,but when he was told point blank one month before 9/11 happened it was going to happen,he brushed it off and kept going?
And yes,they were liars about this too
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 10, 2010 7:18pm
This post is so damn stupid I'm not even able to come up with a snarky reply to it. Seriously dude...just stop.Ty Webb;553068 wrote:A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large numbers of humans (and other life forms) and/or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere in general
Gas is intended to kill small number of people at a time. There for...Gas isn't a WMD