FYI, since 1963, Massillon is 388-130-6, that is a .740 winning pct. Not bad considering being a very small DI, playing the type of schedules they have played over that time span. They have 3 state championships, 3 state runners up, 10 regional champions, 5 regional runners up.

skank;665510 wrote:FYI, since 1963, Massillon is 388-130-6, that is a .740 winning pct. Not bad considering being a very small DI, playing the type of schedules they have played over that time span. They have 3 state championships, 3 state runners up, 10 regional champions, 5 regional runners up.

BOOM!! Looks like all the proof and facts are in,,,,,,,,,,, Massillon is a winning High School Football team.

rmolin73 wrote:So instead of jocking Buchtels success how good is Akron North going to be this year?

I bet they win 1 game this year.

Good luck to the Tigers in 2011, and good luck with your combine next week.

rmolin73;665503 wrote:So instead of jocking Buchtels success how good is Akron North going to be this year?

Since nobody in Akron can actually afford a computer, (I guess there's always a chance it is stolen), I would assume that the events of the day go a little something like this.

1) Viking wakes up at the crack of 1:30 PM.
2) He applies speed stick and just a dab of brut, (showers are overrated).
3) A quick breakfast of last nights half eaten beef burrito and a Dr. Pepper.
4) Now, it's off to the Library, he grabs his half empty pack of Newport Lights and his Giant Eagle shopping cart, (just in case he finds some aluminum cans along the way).
5) About a mile into his trek, he finds a half full bottle of Corona, not sure if it's actually warm beer or urine, he gambles....BINGO, beer, he avoids the unfortunate turn of events he wasn't so lucky with back in 07.
6) After another mile or so, and several pee breaks between abandoned homes, he finds several beer cans and claims he "don't be knowin how dat dudes aluminum spouting gots into my shoppin cart."
7) The public Library, (or as viking puts it, Libary), is now within sight,
8) Viking arrogantly passes several men asking for spare change.
9) Two desperate men attempt to rob Viking, (after all, it is Akron), but after seeing that they were WAY better off than him, they actually gave HIM a few dollars.
10) On his way into the Library, Viking brags to a few people standing nearby that he has read BOTH books in the Akron Public Library....TWICE.
11) On his way past the Librarian, he asks if his suggestion of adding Green Eggs and Ham to the Classics section has been acted upon yet.
12) He wonders if he remembered to turn off the bathroom light before he left, then remembers that the power company took care of that weeks ago.
13) After asking a passerby how to spell the word chatter, he logs onto OC and the rest is history.

After seeing the effort it takes for viking to post, Im sure you will all agree we should take it easy on him.

Al Bundy;665572 wrote:Good luck to the Tigers in 2011, and good luck with your combine next week.

Thank you, good luck to the parochials with theirs also.

skank;665611 wrote:Since nobody in Akron can actually afford a computer, (I guess there's always a chance it is stolen), I would assume that the events of the day go a little something like this.

1) Viking wakes up at the crack of 1:30 PM.
2) He applies speed stick and just a dab of brut, (showers are overrated).
3) A quick breakfast of last nights half eaten beef burrito and a Dr. Pepper.
4) Now, it's off to the Library, he grabs his half empty pack of Newport Lights and his Giant Eagle shopping cart, (just in case he finds some aluminum cans along the way).
5) About a mile into his trek, he finds a half full bottle of Corona, not sure if it's actually warm beer or urine, he gambles....BINGO, beer, he avoids the unfortunate turn of events he wasn't so lucky with back in 07.
6) After another mile or so, and several pee breaks between abandoned homes, he finds several beer cans and claims he "don't be knowin how dat dudes aluminum spouting gots into my shoppin cart."
7) The public Library, (or as viking puts it, Libary), is now within sight,
8) Viking arrogantly passes several men asking for spare change.
9) Two desperate men attempt to rob Viking, (after all, it is Akron), but after seeing that they were WAY better off than him, they actually gave HIM a few dollars.
10) On his way into the Library, Viking brags to a few people standing nearby that he has read BOTH books in the Akron Public Library....TWICE.
11) On his way past the Librarian, he asks if his suggestion of adding Green Eggs and Ham to the Classics section has been acted upon yet.
12) He wonders if he remembered to turn off the bathroom light before he left, then remembers that the power company took care of that weeks ago.
13) After asking a passerby how to spell the word chatter, he logs onto OC and the rest is history.

After seeing the effort it takes for viking to post, Im sure you will all agree we should take it easy on him.

Great post. It's cool that you used my name to describe a typical day in YOUR life and the life of most males in Massillon. Is the unemployment rate still around 17% there?!? That of course doesn't count the 50-60% that have either given up looking for work or never even bothered to work. More people work at Akron U. than the entire town of Massillon.

Viking;665661 wrote:Great post. It's cool that you used my name to describe a typical day in YOUR life and the life of most males in Massillon. Is the unemployment rate still around 17% there?!? That of course doesn't count the 50-60% that have either given up looking for work or never even bothered to work. More people work at Akron U. than the entire town of Massillon.

If they would just clasify armed robbery as "work", the unemployment rate in the city of Akron would drop 60%. How many have YOU been involved in?

Viking;665431 wrote:What did you win?!? Buchtel will deliver another arse beating to Massillon.

The Paper Tigers haven't won ANYTHING since 1972. The Tigers became champs like Mubarak became president of Egypt. Stuffed french toast is cool, but not stuffed ballot boxes!

Ok, we get it, you're up to date on current events.

Massillon is 9-2 all time vs Buchtel outscoring them 342 (31ppg) to 181 (16.4).

Now, back to the thread subject, some rumors I have heard recently

Massillon MAY leave week 9 open.
The Thom McDaniels deal is a done deal.
Coach Kovacs will likely end up D coordinator at GlenOak.
Week 6 is most likely going to be a parochial school.

The unemployment rate is about 20% in Steubenville and only reason it aint higher is cause it ran out on some people ...public school guys need to stick together against the pariah which is the catholic school stranglehold .. Massillon people above all should know this since you guys have been wearing the scarlet letter for such a long time and our enemies have been taking fruit from our public school trees ... Let us all come together and slay Goliath ... This is all toung and cheek ofcourse ...but Im glad the OHSAA has finaly stepped in and tried to do something .. Good luck Tigers this upcoming year if you make the finale Ill be there to root for you ....you friend another Big Red dude...

Viking;665431 wrote:Buchtel will deliver another arse beating to Massillon.

You're telling me this....why?

GoChiefs;666214 wrote:You're telling me this....why?

Because HIS team was 0-10 and would have lost to Strasburg by 41.

Mortgagestar1;665111 wrote:Just saw where parade Magazine has The Massilon Tigers ranked # 7 All Time best Highschool Football Program from 1963 on. Congrats!!!!!!!
What are the chances of The Tigers may be someone like Don Bosco (New Jersey ) or a California powerhouse in the next few seasons?

Looked at the site earlier, they, (Parade Mag.) did word it like that, so I can see where you would think that, but all they were saying was that Massillon has had the 7th most Parade All-Americans since the Mag. started doing the All-American thing. The list looked like this.

10) Lincoln, Tallahassee Fla.
9) Servite, Anaheim Ca.
8) Ely Blanche, Pompano Beach Fla.
7) Washington, Massillon Oh. (8)
6) Mater Dei, Santa Ana Ca.
5) Cretin-Derham, St. Paul Minn.
4) McKinley, Canton Oh. (9)
3) Carter, Dallas Tx.
2) Polytechnic, Long Beach Ca.
1) Moeller, Cincinnati Oh. (24)

Massillons Parade All-Americans were

'64 John Muhlbach (Ohio State)
'64 Larry Larsuel
'65 Paul Marks (Memphis State)
'65 Dave Whitfield (Ohio State)
'78 Brent Offenbecher (Ohio State/Wake Forest)
'84 Chris Spielman (Ohio State)
'02 Justin Zwick (Ohio State)
'03 Shawn Crable (Michigan)

In that case, good for them and congratulations

Here is a nice article on former Massillon QB George Whitfield.

Meet A Qb Guru
Former Massillon star is now adviser to the stars
Chris Easterling
[email protected]

George Whitfield Jr.'s playing career took him from Massillon to the doorstep of the National Football League, as well as to several Arena League outposts.

But it is his career since hanging up the cleats which the former Tiger quarterback feels may lead him to the most success.

Whitfield has spent the last few years operating a quarterback training firm - Whitfield Athletix - based out of San Diego. In the last six months alone, the 33-year-old has worked with Pittsburgh Steeler star Ben Roethlis berger and Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton.

Yet, his successful venture started innocently enough - helping out a fourth-grade Pop Warner kid while he was interning under San Diego Charger offensive coordinator Cam Cameron in 2004.

"Slowly, the Pop Warner kid's getting better, and he has an older brother that's in high school, and he tells his coach, and that high school coach calls another coach," said Whitfield, who graduated from Washington High School in 1996. "Before long, I kind of had to look at it and think, Can I really do this as a profession? I'd never heard of it done. I know that there's piano teachers and there's swing coaches in golf.

I've since come to find out there are a handful of guys who do it. I just went all in."

And "all in" has paid off nicely for him.

Roethlisberger sought out Whitfield to help keep him sharp while he was on the sidelines for the first four games of the 2010 season thanks to an NFL suspension. Hall of Famer Warren Moon, who is serving as an adviser for Newton, also hand-picked Whitfield to help work with the former Auburn standout as he prepares for this April's draft.

"It's unbelievable," Whitfield said. "I mean, I'm a fan. I'm watching Ben play, and I'm watching him go out and do his thing. I was watching Cam all season long, and I'm thinking, 'Oh my goodness.' On one hand, you're like, 'This is unbelievable.' On the other hand, you're like, 'Wow, if I could ever meet him and have two hours on the field, I would go over this, this, this, this.' You think that. It's the same with Ben."

Whitfield's own quarterback career took him from Youngstown State to Tiffin University, where he played for four years. After working as a graduate assistant at the University of Iowa, he tried to resurrect his own playing career in the Arena League, while spending time in the off-season programs of the Washington Redskins and Minnesota Vikings.

It is that brief foray in the world of professional football which has provided much of the motivation for Whitfield as he stands on the field with the likes of Roethlisberger or Newton.

"I knew where I had kind of come up short in my path," he said. "I kind of got bumped to the outside lane when nothing really matriculated out of college.

You go to Iowa and you try to make it back in. I made a close, hard run at it.

"Without that passion, and knowing what it's like actually not to get in, knowing what it feels like to not actually get in and then to develop and learn a curriculum that does teach guys how to get in, I don't know if I'd be as good. I doubt I would if I didn't get tripped up and fall short. I don't think I would be succeeding like I am."

In order to hone his skills teaching the game, Whitfield took it upon himself to learn from some of the top coaches in the game. He utilized his relationship with Jim Tressel forged during their days together at Youngstown State to learn from the Ohio State coach.

He had the internship with the Chargers - an experience he compared to being in a "laboratory" - which exposed him to the film work and attention to detail needed to succeed at the highest level of pro football.

He visited with Jim Harbaugh when Harbaugh was just starting out at Stanford University.

But it was while visiting the University of Texas that Whitfield found the motto which he has taken with him onto the field every day, regardless of what quarterback - from Pop Warner to Pro Bowler - he is working with.

"Across the top of their team room, on a big, giant six-foot board, are engraved the words, 'You must be consistently good to be great,'" Whitfield said. "I try to get that to our guys now.

I say, you don't have to be great today, great tomorrow; you have to be consistently good to be great. I took that upon myself. I'm going to push for excellence, but if you maintain that level for a long time, you're going to start to make some real impressions and some real impact on some of these guys' careers, and really, every career."

As for Whitfield's own career, he's not entirely sure where it will take him. He acknowledged he has had opportunities to latch on as a quarterbacks coach at Division I college football programs, while also getting a couple of NFL feelers over the last season.

But he admits there is something special that attracts him to what he's doing right now. Something he said isn't available coaching at a college football program or in the NFL.

"I'm looking at this position from 9 years old to 29 years old," he said.

"Those little 9-year-olds help you remember how I felt when I first got the three-step drop down. That's no small thing. Then you fly to Pittsburgh, and Ben's still working on a three-step drop. You're just looking at it from two totally different bodies and everything.

It does help that you get to see that. It makes all the difference."


PHOTO PROVIDED BY GEORGE WHITFIELD JR.

George Whitfield Jr. watches as Auburn quarterback Cam Newton works out. Whitfield, a former Massillon quarterback who once had hopes of an NFL career, now provides instructions for such QBs as Newton and Pittsburgh Steelers star Ben Roethlisberger. Whitfield runs his Whitfield Athletix agency out of San Diego.





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Here's one with Charles Woodson discussing among other things the '94 playoff game between Massillon and Fremont.

The Ohio teams almost never make it to the Super Bowl. For the Cleveland Browns, it’s a flat-out never. The Browns’ four NFL championships, three under Massillon legend Paul Brown, all came before Super Bowl I in the 1960s.

Brown was czar of the Cincinnati teams that made it twice in the 1980s. There’s a reason he’s one of the most revered Hall of Famers, a reason Bill Belichick’s dad, Steve, resented that the Super Bowl hardware wasn’t named the Paul Brown Trophy.

Meanwhile, no Super Bowl we remember has been without strong Ohio connections. Today’s Packers-Steelers game is full of them.

For starters, a former Ohio Mr. Football, Charles Woodson, is one of Green Bay’s best hopes to win the game.

Linebacker Clay Matthews III, whose dad was one of the greatest Cleveland Browns, is Green Bay’s most hyped Super Bowl defender.

Woodson, however, is the most important.

He can — and will — line up at cornerback, safety or linebacker. He did it well enough in 2009 to be NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

How well he does against Ohio-bred quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and former Browns offensive coordinator Bruce Arians — Pittsburgh’s play caller now — looms large.

Woodson, 34, has a former Mount Union defensive back, Packers Coordinator Dom Capers, to thank for his career not being dead.

The 1994 Ohio Mr. Football admits he was Mr. Mischief for much of his younger life. Although he thought he had grown up, no one wanted to touch him when he was a free agent in 2006, having played eight years with the Raiders.

Jack Rose remembers Woodson another way.

Rose’s Massillon team had just outlasted McKinley, 42-41, in the 100th game between the rivals, played in Paul Brown Tiger Stadium. His first-round playoff assignment was Fremont Ross, whose star — young Mr. Woodson — most high school players couldn’t touch.

Rose had a long coaching career that included winning a state championship at St. Thomas Aquinas. He coached and faced hundreds of excellent players.

“Charles Woodson was the best,” Rose says.

Rose had just been talking about Woodson with some fellows in GlenOak High School’s weight room when we called to see if he remembers much about the playoff game.

He remembers. Woodson was a defensive back, as he is now. He was also a force at tailback.

“We made a big goal-line stand at the end to keep them from sending it into overtime,” Rose says.

Brother, does Woodson remember THAT.

“On that last drive,” he said, dressed in his green Packer uniform during a Super Bowl-week stop at Cowboys Stadium, “we went down to the 5, and my name wasn’t called.

“I didn’t get the ball. I thought I should have.

“We ended up losing. It was a great game. I do think about it. I didn’t win a championship in high school. That was the first time I’d ever been to a playoff game.”

Massillon’s biggest star was Willie Spencer.

“Great player,” Woodson said. “I think he injured himself in that game. I remember it was me and him, back and forth.”

The final score was 35-28.

“They scored first,” Rose said. “Woodson broke an 80-yard run on counter gap. It was like he was shot out of cannon. I thought, holy crap.

“Then Willie threw a deep ball for a touchdown .... it went back and forth.

“We went running option with Willie. Woodson was running the alley at safety. Woodson was the only guy I saw all year who could tackle Willie in the open field.

“I remember Charles got tired ... he was really tired at end of game.

“He didn’t run the ball at the end. They threw the ball at the end. He was spent.”

Many Ohio fans weren’t happy when Woodson took his talent to that school up north. He became a Heisman Trophy winner at Michigan. He helped Michigan share a national championship with retiring Tom Osborne’s Nebraska team.

He was a No. 4 overall draft pick in 1998 and made the Pro Bowl in his first four seasons with the Raiders.

Eventually, Woodson wore out his welcome with the Raiders on Rob Ryan’s watch as coordinator, but Ryan still calls him “this great cornerback.”

During the 2010 season when he was working for the Browns, Ryan laughingly recalled Woodson being a rough-house player who got caught in a year when officials were cracking down on downfield contact.

“Woodson is there and they make this new rule,” Ryan said. “We are playing in the preseason and he must have 10 penalties. He’s played 12 snaps and he has 10 penalties.

“I’m like, ‘God almighty, we have got to do something about this.’ Woodson has got these massive hands, and he’s just grabbing these guys and throwing them like we used to do.

“Either we are going to lead the league in the most penalties in history or we are going to have to adapt a little bit, so we did. It was just one of those things he had to learn to execute that way. Everything about his instincts was, ‘No Rob, I’m not letting go.’

“I can remember having an argument, really a good one, coming off the field one day because he was going to explain to Fabian Washington that, ‘No, this is how we roll.’ Pretty good argument, fight, whatever you want to call it.

“Apparently, he’s moved on. He got MVP last year on defense and he’s adapted.”

Now he’s on a defense that includes two starters from Ohio State, A.J. Hawk and Ryan Pickett. He’s the co-star of a show with a guy, Matthews, who has a Cleveland Browns helmet in his den.

After a cold week of brutal weather, there is, as usual, no Ohio team in the Super Bowl. But if Charles Woodson can make a few plays to beat Pittsburgh, it probably can be argued it would make his home state a little bit warmer.

How many days till Buchtel beats the Paper Tigers again?!?

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Viking;670754 wrote:How many days till Buchtel beats the Paper Tigers again?!?

How many years before Akron Nofe is above .500?

Viking;670754 wrote:How many days till Buchtel beats the Paper Tigers again?!?

You can't count any way, so why does it matter? Shouldn't you be sponge bathing the homeless around the corner from your house about now?

What will Massillon's excuse be this year after the Griffs spank them?

Does anybody in Massillon work or is everybody a volunteer?!?

Viking;672194 wrote:What will Massillon's excuse be this year after the Griffs spank them?

Does anybody in Massillon work or is everybody a volunteer?!?

#1) Maybe it will be, "we got tired of having a .800 winning pct against them."
#2) Everybody is a "volunteer", we usually do it in Akron though, plenty of opportunities up there what with the thousands of homeless, crack babies, drug addicts, rapists....Need I go on?

What will Akron Nofes excuse be this year after EVERYBODY spanks them....Again?

I think its hilarious a team beats Massillon or McKinley once and thinks they own them... they will have nothing to say come August...

Whats even funnier is the fact that he is jocking Buchtels success when he never went there.